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March 04, 2022, 03:22:42 PM
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"Victoria, who was born in Ukraine but has been living in France for 25 years, elaborated during an interview on French TV show Brunet & Cie."

A women has been living in France for 25 years. Yeah, she definetely knows a loooot about current life in Ukraine with Zelensky as the President.


"He's banned 4 opposition TV channels, there were also journalists who disappeared"

Russian channels, on which they pushed Russian political puppets and broadcast the bullshit that is shown on Russian television. It was clearing the ether from crap. And those so-called journalists did not disappear. They went back to Russia, now continuing to engage in information distortion.

Everything else does not even make sense to comment.


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March 04, 2022, 05:57:53 PM
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As Betwrong said, "Putin is not a sane person currently" I support this I watch a video on Youtube today where he make an angry statement that NATO has no right to kill Gaddafi despite all his mistakes, killing, and other habits that he's just a human and he ought to be giving a chance.
I ask myself, then why did he (Putin) attack Ukraine for his own political ambition. I further said those he know what he's saying or just seeking attention.

I pray that the God Lord protect you guys and all the Ukrainians.

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March 04, 2022, 05:59:43 PM
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As Betwrong said, "Putin is not a sane person currently" I support this I watch a video on Youtube today where he make an angry statement that NATO has no right to kill Gaddafi despite all his mistakes, killing, and other habits that he's just a human and he ought to be giving a chance.
I ask myself, then why did he (Putin) attack Ukraine for his own political ambition. I further said those he know what he's saying or just seeking attention.

I pray that the God Lord protect you guys and all the Ukrainians.


why is putin not sane? is he supposed the genocide in the donbass region indefinately?

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March 04, 2022, 07:38:39 PM
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As Betwrong said, "Putin is not a sane person currently" I support this I watch a video on Youtube today where he make an angry statement that NATO has no right to kill Gaddafi despite all his mistakes, killing, and other habits that he's just a human and he ought to be giving a chance.
I ask myself, then why did he (Putin) attack Ukraine for his own political ambition. I further said those he know what he's saying or just seeking attention.

I pray that the God Lord protect you guys and all the Ukrainians.


why is putin not sane? is he supposed the genocide in the donbass region indefinately?

If there was genocide in Doanbass, he was supposed to go to the UN and the ICC with documented proof.

Not to try to exterminate the whole nation.

Stop repeating Kremlin lies.

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March 04, 2022, 07:40:52 PM
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why is putin not sane? is he supposed the genocide in the donbass region indefinately?

Are the moderators of the forum allowed to ban for the words "genocide in Donbas"? If not, I think it's time to introduce a new rule

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March 05, 2022, 05:29:16 AM
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Hello from Kyiv, Ukraine...Hola.

All the positive energy for you and your people, there is no logical sense that can explain any war, as there was not for the courageous attitude of the Ukrainian people, perhaps the whole world is surprised, as well as the international experts who anticipated a surrender in days, but not for you who have shown courage and patriotism as the main weapon.

Forgive me if I say more of the same, but stay safe.

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March 05, 2022, 07:12:07 AM
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I criticized the US for provoking Russia through its acceptance of Ukraine into NATO, thus being the last straw. The US and NATO allies are the main perpetrators of this disarray. All Ukrainians deserve my deepest sympathy, but I consider Russia not only the enemy or the reason for this invasion. It's pretty intriguing that most Russians in media interviews say that they invaded Ukraine to prove that they were doing the right thing. However, I don't totally agree with them. For Russia, their primary concern is security whereas Ukraine wants to join NATO to ensure their long-term existence as they continue to be treated by Russia. The solution is quite complicated.
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Really no time to translate. Please, someone do it.

She say: If you ashame to feel you a Russian, than you are not Russian.
Vitalic replyed: Go fck on yorself... (screw you... fck you... etc something similar on yor native language)
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March 05, 2022, 08:02:28 PM
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Ukrainian Woman Conducts Live Interview on French TV: “Zelensky Is A Puppet Leader”
https://thetruedefender.com/ukrainian-woman-conducts-live-interview-on-french-tv-zelensky-is-a-puppet-leader/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ukrainian-woman-conducts-live-interview-on-french-tv-zelensky-is-a-puppet-leader


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Here’s the transcript of the conversation, provided by The COVID World:

“Victoria was asked by one of the hosts:

“Victoria, you are Ukrainian, but you have been living here [in France] for 25 years. As we know, you keep in touch with your relatives in Kiev. Did they manage to escape?”

She firmly answered:

“No, of course not – they didn’t even think about running away.

I returned to France four days ago. Nobody believed that there would be a war. But there were rumors and people started to run. However, the root of all troubles must be sought in 2014. Nearly two million Ukrainians live in appalling conditions. Heating bills are getting more expensive than ever, and wages are miserable… So, people spend half their salary on utility bills. In general, life is hard. So I think: why should we support this puppet president and his government?

I’m talking about the current president, and not the one that Putin will seat if he wants to. They write on the Internet that it is hard for Ukrainians now, and this is true. The authorities are constantly changing, the economy is in a tailspin, corruption is everywhere.”

Confused by Victoria’s remarks, the French hosts asked if she was talking about Putin or Zelensky. However, she confirmed she was speaking about the current Ukrainian president.

“Are you talking about Zelensky?”

Victoria:

“Yes, yes, about whom else.”

Moderator:

“So the democratically elected President Zelensky is really a puppet?”

Victoria:

“Yes, and it’s not democratic at all. He took and banned four opposition channels. Journalists disappear all the time. They say that Russian journalists are generally killed, but Ukrainian ones too. There have been many such cases in recent years. In general, everythiNG is complicated, but they don’t talk about it – to no avail.”

Moderator:

“Wait, let me finish. Here you are Ukrainian and have lived in both countries, in Ukraine and in France. That is, it seems to you that the West idealizes Ukraine? Are you saying that the situation is not as simple as they say in the West: a ferocious Russian bear against a full-fledged Ukrainian democracy?”

Victoria:

“Yes, everything is much more complicated. The situation is far from black and white.”

 Seriously, what is the reason that you chose this woman? Why not talk about women in Kherson who were raped by Russian soldiers? And that only 5 of them survived?

https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7785/Artykul/2913606,Russian-soldiers-raping-women-in-Ukraine-report

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10579847/Russian-soldiers-raping-women-occupied-territory-Ukraines-foreign-minister-claims.html

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March 06, 2022, 01:03:51 AM
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As Betwrong said, "Putin is not a sane person currently" I support this I watch a video on Youtube today where he make an angry statement that NATO has no right to kill Gaddafi despite all his mistakes, killing, and other habits that he's just a human and he ought to be giving a chance.
I ask myself, then why did he (Putin) attack Ukraine for his own political ambition. I further said those he know what he's saying or just seeking attention.

I pray that the God Lord protect you guys and all the Ukrainians.


why is putin not sane? is he supposed the genocide in the donbass region indefinately?

If there was genocide in Doanbass, he was supposed to go to the UN and the ICC with documented proof.

Not to try to exterminate the whole nation.

Stop repeating Kremlin lies.
If the Donbass region issue was the reason for Putin's action then he didn't do it in the right way and as af_newbie said he ought to do legal documentation and present it to the UN.
Now most of the world don't know about the Donbass issue, I am saying because I am earing it for the first time and I am sure there will be some people who are also not aware of it.

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March 06, 2022, 01:24:33 AM
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Ukrainian Woman Conducts Live Interview on French TV: “Zelensky Is A Puppet Leader”
https://thetruedefender.com/ukrainian-woman-conducts-live-interview-on-french-tv-zelensky-is-a-puppet-leader/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ukrainian-woman-conducts-live-interview-on-french-tv-zelensky-is-a-puppet-leader


Quote
Here’s the transcript of the conversation, provided by The COVID World:

“Victoria was asked by one of the hosts:

“Victoria, you are Ukrainian, but you have been living here [in France] for 25 years. As we know, you keep in touch with your relatives in Kiev. Did they manage to escape?”

She firmly answered:

“No, of course not – they didn’t even think about running away.

I returned to France four days ago. Nobody believed that there would be a war. But there were rumors and people started to run. However, the root of all troubles must be sought in 2014. Nearly two million Ukrainians live in appalling conditions. Heating bills are getting more expensive than ever, and wages are miserable… So, people spend half their salary on utility bills. In general, life is hard. So I think: why should we support this puppet president and his government?

I’m talking about the current president, and not the one that Putin will seat if he wants to. They write on the Internet that it is hard for Ukrainians now, and this is true. The authorities are constantly changing, the economy is in a tailspin, corruption is everywhere.”

Confused by Victoria’s remarks, the French hosts asked if she was talking about Putin or Zelensky. However, she confirmed she was speaking about the current Ukrainian president.

“Are you talking about Zelensky?”

Victoria:

“Yes, yes, about whom else.”

Moderator:

“So the democratically elected President Zelensky is really a puppet?”

Victoria:

“Yes, and it’s not democratic at all. He took and banned four opposition channels. Journalists disappear all the time. They say that Russian journalists are generally killed, but Ukrainian ones too. There have been many such cases in recent years. In general, everythiNG is complicated, but they don’t talk about it – to no avail.”

Moderator:

“Wait, let me finish. Here you are Ukrainian and have lived in both countries, in Ukraine and in France. That is, it seems to you that the West idealizes Ukraine? Are you saying that the situation is not as simple as they say in the West: a ferocious Russian bear against a full-fledged Ukrainian democracy?”

Victoria:

“Yes, everything is much more complicated. The situation is far from black and white.”

 Seriously, what is the reason that you chose this woman? Why not talk about women in Kherson who were raped by Russian soldiers? And that only 5 of them survived?

https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7785/Artykul/2913606,Russian-soldiers-raping-women-in-Ukraine-report

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10579847/Russian-soldiers-raping-women-occupied-territory-Ukraines-foreign-minister-claims.html

I am not surprised.

Their grand grandfathers did the same thing in pretty much every village/city in Ukraine and Germany during WWII.  I personally interviewed
people who witnessed it.  Young women were using soot and dirt to blacken their faces, cut their hair to look ugly.  
Some pretended to be boys.

Russian soldiers are fucking animals. They rob, rape, kill civilians, and bomb indiscriminately.

Slava Ukraini!!!  Death to invaders.

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 Saturday Brutal Truth from Martyanov, Russian Army took yet another military base in 404
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/03/saturday-primer.html

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I must first sympathize with your current situation, and i do hope you and your family come out of this unscathed, and your nation will definitely see better days sometime soon. It is really sad that this whole situation degenerated to this, Putin is prolly doing this cause he isn't in the war front, and his life isn't at risk. War is never a solution or should not be seen as a last resort, diplomacy/peaceful resolution would always be the best, cause in the end it does not matter who wins in a war, both parties would still suffer casualties, and those victims are someone's father, mother, brother, sister etc, who would forever live with the pain and regret that someone they love lost their life in a needless war centered on one man's (Putin) pride/ego.

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 Saturday Brutal Truth from Martyanov, Russian Army took yet another military base in 404
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/03/saturday-primer.html

You wanna know brutal truth? You can check here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AT0Z3nqEVY



For Russia, their primary concern is security whereas Ukraine wants to join NATO to ensure their long-term existence as they continue to be treated by Russia. The solution is quite complicated.

By that logic, Russia should express its concern about all the neighboring countries that have joined NATO. Latvia and Estonia are members of NATO. They have a direct border with Russia. Lithuania and Poland are members of NATO. Formally, they have a border with Belarus, in fact - with Russia, because the independence of Belarus can be read only on paper. Why have these countries not become a field of blackmail and "concern" on the part of Russia? Maybe because they are protected better? While Ukraine has long been considered a gray zone where global world conflicts can be resolved.


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For Russia, their primary concern is security whereas Ukraine wants to join NATO to ensure their long-term existence as they continue to be treated by Russia. The solution is quite complicated.

By that logic, Russia should express its concern about all the neighboring countries that have joined NATO. Latvia and Estonia are members of NATO. They have a direct border with Russia. Lithuania and Poland are members of NATO. Formally, they have a border with Belarus, in fact - with Russia, because the independence of Belarus can be read only on paper. Why have these countries not become a field of blackmail and "concern" on the part of Russia? Maybe because they are protected better? While Ukraine has long been considered a gray zone where global world conflicts can be resolved.

Those countries don't have a Nazi problem overrun with goons, thugs and not out of control corruption.

Who Is Zelensky the actor?
https://youtu.be/j7NTLZDd4tc

https://web.archive.org/web/20220306124345/https://www.youtube.com/live_chat_replay?continuation=op2w0wRiGlhDaWtxSndvWVZVTlFlSEJRVkRSaU5IWnVSR3hZTUhOQ1Izb3pjalJSRWd0cU4wNVVURnBFWkRSMFl4b1Q2cWpkdVFFTkNndHFOMDVVVEZwRVpEUjBZeUFCQAFyAggEeAE%253D

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Oh you're in Kyiv, stay safe there. So how's the situation now? Did they gave you guns? If they did, did they even trained you? It'll be great if you have a social media account to update people. Maybe you can get additional followers from here so that the account could get bumped up or something in the algorithm.

I am also from Kyiv and I can give some update about the situation, even though I know this question was not addressed to me. We have created a territorial defense, which received weapons and protects the city at the boarders. These people are very supportive of a professional army. Such associations are established in almost every settlement, they directly protect the places where they live. Russia did not expect such confrontation from civilians, so their plan to capture Ukraine in 3 days can be thrown away. In Kyiv, the consequences of missile and bomb strikes are noticeable, which are not inflicted on military strategic infrastructure, but on civilian facilities and residential buildings. This is done in order to cause panic and force people to beg for an end to the war by any means. But we hold on and do not plan to give up! With Ukraine in heart!

That's great to hear. The citizen watch is indeed important since there's also a possibility they got sleeper agents there that might conduct some sort of guerrilla operation or sabotage utilities.

They picked the wrong people to mess with, destroying houses is just gonna anger civilians even more. May all remain safe there.
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To all my fellow Ukranians on the forum and the OP, I want to say to stay strong,
I believe you are all strong people in a very difficult position.

              To be honest, I used to blame US for provoking Russia over the years that made the application of Ukraine to be part of the NATO become the last straw for Russia. But seeing how things are already, Russia is looking more and more like a bully. Ukraine has every right to choose for it's own. It is a free country and should not be dictated to do things like this or that. War should be the last thing to happen nowadays. This is just madness. What amazes me though are Ukrainians like you, I even heard people from overseas really went back to your country to help defend it and your president himself not backing down and escaping despite being offered to, instead he asked for ammunition. Stay strong sir, along all the Ukrainian people, most of all keep safe. I don't know if you believe in religion or not but I have been oraying and will surely continue to pray for Ukraine and for the leaders involved with all these to be enlightened enough to make decisions that won't have to lead to more conflicts.

I criticized the US for provoking Russia through its acceptance of Ukraine into NATO, thus being the last straw. The US and NATO allies are the main perpetrators of this disarray. All Ukrainians deserve my deepest sympathy, but I consider Russia not only the enemy or the reason for this invasion. It's pretty intriguing that most Russians in media interviews say that they invaded Ukraine to prove that they were doing the right thing. However, I don't totally agree with them. For Russia, their primary concern is security whereas Ukraine wants to join NATO to ensure their long-term existence as they continue to be treated by Russia. The solution is quite complicated.

NATO's expansion over the years is coming to a head now and unfortunately Ukraine
is taking the brunt of it.

I can understand Ukraine's request to join NATO, I believe they were seeking future
protection from Russia, I would say there was a feeling that Russia would not
stand for so long without reacting to being surrounded by NATO bases.

Ukraine and Russia produce about 30% of the global Wheat, 50% of the oil and Gas
used in Europe comes from Russia and they produce massive amounts of Fertilizer,
I would have thought that using these commodities as leverage would have been a
better road than invading another country?

I feel sorry for primarily Ukraine and also Russians who are opposed to this and
all who will suffer the consequences for many years both in rebuilding their country
and economies.

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Yeah, nobody in his right mind would decide to wipe out the whole population of a country, but the thing is, Putin is not a sane person currently. But we are not afraid. With your support we will kill all his zombies here on our land. Good conquers evil. I really believe in that.

So, we don't need a ride. We need ammo. And you are giving it to us.  Thank you.

you recognize the genocide on the donbassians yet by your corrupt nazi regime?

you have to recognize the genocide and hand over zelinski, like nazi germans if you defend him it will get even bloodier.



Don't listen Russian propaganda only. Hear what the whole world is saying, for a change.



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