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March 06, 2022, 04:22:23 AM |
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My website says (profits are generated by new investors) - what is the point of cheating people?
You've just admitted that it's a Ponzi scheme and a pyramiding and these two schemes are meant to scam people because there is no product, no services to talk about only new investors willing to invest, it's the payment will go to early investors and for you to make a profit you need to have new investors coming in, once there are no new investors coming in, then the bucks stop, the only way to regain your investment s to invite and hope new people will come in to invest.
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tvplus006 (OP)
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March 06, 2022, 07:27:24 AM |
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...My rules of the game are open, that is the difference between fraud and fair play...
Yes, you openly declare that your project is a scam, since it is a ponzi scheme, but it still does not become an honest project because of this. All ponzi schemes eventually lead to the loss of money of investors who joined this scheme last. Therefore, you should not get your hands dirty with a new scam.
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March 06, 2022, 02:23:39 PM Last edit: March 08, 2022, 07:22:13 PM by Pyram78 |
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Lotteries, casinos, sweepstakes also lead to loss of money in them just at the expense of new investors (players) is formed profit they also do not produce goods or services and serve to enrich a small part of investors (players). Why is it not SCAM? Because the rules of the game are known and open! You're not hearing me at all. Read wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud) - (In law, fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right.) If I informed investors in advance that (that early investors are making a profit at the expense of new investors) it is not considered fraud because there is no deception, false information, concealment of information. The basis of any fraud is deception if there is no deception then there is no fraud. Give me at least one example of fraud where there is no deception. __________________________________________________________ There are and are developing a lot of complex high-tech projects using the technologies of smart contracts, sadchains, ring-sing and other schemes. The rules in such projects are very often floating, adaptive, not fixed. A full audit of such projects requires high-class IT specialists (highly paid), as well as a lot of time (one two three years). If you conduct a comprehensive analysis of such projects (where the money comes from and how to be distributed in the future) (what goods, services are produced (created), what is their price, as well as distribution among all participants (investors) of the project. You can find the same pyramid with different options for the distribution of funds or rights to future income. To prove that such projects (SCAM) are very difficult and expensive. Because there are so many complex interdependent rules that you misunderstood or didn't know. I made my site specially (intentionally) very simple (primitive) so that even a child could understand it, and the audit can be carried out in 2 minutes. In my project, 99% of the funds are redistributed among investors(players). What is the meaning of my project - in the possibility of making a profit and the risk of losing investments (rates). The choice is always people's (if they are aware of it). I can spend a lot more time and money to create a project in which there will be a product or service in the future time, but why deceive myself and others, especially inexperienced investors (players).
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March 09, 2022, 04:26:45 PM Last edit: March 13, 2022, 09:49:28 PM by tvplus006 |
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...The basis of any fraud is deception if there is no deception then there is no fraud...
In the ponzi scheme, the last investor who invested their money will no longer receive the guaranteed profit that you promise. Accordingly, if they do not receive their profit and at the same time lose their money, so they will be defrauded by yourself. So fraud will still be present in this case.
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March 09, 2022, 11:40:21 PM |
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What's the point of repeating the same thing I write before.
I've made enough arguments about my project, but you only hear yourself.
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March 10, 2022, 05:36:38 AM |
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What's the point of repeating the same thing I write before.
the same thing could be said to you. people have been repeating that you are running a scam. I've made enough arguments about my project, but you only hear yourself.
your "arguments" are BS. you keep comparing gambling and your Ponzi scheme project as if the two things are the same, they are not. at this point, you are just trying to twist words and meanings to justify your scam project.
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March 10, 2022, 11:23:04 AM |
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You troll me? My project is under (gambling). What does this mean. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamblinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_gamblingI was not in vain comparing my project and lotteries, casinos, betting. Your arguments: That investors will lose money and they will not receive a guaranteed profit. On my website there is a Work Scheme, if 10 investors (players) invest 10 coins each, then 9 out of 10 will receive a profit of 10%, and one will lose everything. I declare this openly and honestly! What's the deception here? What's the scam? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud(In law, fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception(Deception or falsehood is an act or statement that misleads, hides the truth, or promotes a belief, concept, or idea that is not true.) Are you disagreeing with me, or with Wikipedia, too?
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March 14, 2022, 01:07:01 PM |
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Maybe it's worth doing something useful that will not be SCAM. Something like that - https://www.ltccasino.comWhat do you think?
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March 19, 2022, 04:29:48 PM |
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Made an update to the site, now there are two options for distributing profits. Start next month.
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April 02, 2022, 02:27:35 PM Last edit: April 02, 2022, 03:06:31 PM by Pyram78 |
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I ask the respected moderator community to drop my fraud charge and the scammer label.
There is no inaccurate information, deception, lies, or concealment of information in my project.
There are only negative associations with ponzi pyramids.
I understand very well the negative attitude of people towards the pyramids and Ponzi schemes. This negativity is based on deception and concealment of information.
In my project, there is no deception or concealment of information, everyone can check whenever they want to do this.
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April 07, 2022, 10:56:15 AM |
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<snip> In my project, there is no deception or concealment of information, everyone can check whenever they want to do this.
You're missing the point. By definition, a Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investing scam... so there's no point in sugarcoating. This is just another BS "get rich quick scheme" that will collapse sooner or later. It really doesn't matter that you openly admit it. Consider some legitimate ways of earning money instead of trying to scam other members if you're worried about being labeled as a scammer.
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April 07, 2022, 11:25:38 AM |
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<snip> In my project, there is no deception or concealment of information, everyone can check whenever they want to do this.
You're missing the point. By definition, a Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investing scam... so there's no point in sugarcoating. This is just another BS "get rich quick scheme" that will collapse sooner or later. It really doesn't matter that you openly admit it. Consider some legitimate ways of earning money instead of trying to scam other members if you're worried about being labeled as a scammer. My scheme will fall every 30 days (as defined in the rules). It is very important that I openly admit it! I have a legitimate job unrelated to the crypt. If you think I'm a scammer, give me evidence, bring the people I deceived. If they're gone, then it's a false charge against me. Do you have any evidence?
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April 07, 2022, 11:57:52 AM |
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<snip> In my project, there is no deception or concealment of information, everyone can check whenever they want to do this.
You're missing the point. By definition, a Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investing scam... so there's no point in sugarcoating. This is just another BS "get rich quick scheme" that will collapse sooner or later. It really doesn't matter that you openly admit it. Consider some legitimate ways of earning money instead of trying to scam other members if you're worried about being labeled as a scammer. My scheme will fall every 30 days (as defined in the rules). It is very important that I openly admit it! I have a legitimate job unrelated to the crypt. If you think I'm a scammer, give me evidence, bring the people I deceived. If they're gone, then it's a false charge against me. Do you have any evidence? Again, by definition, a Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investing scam. This is a well-known fact, there is no need to prove it. Negative trust in your account is to warn other members not to be deceived. If you disagree and believe that I am abusing the trust system, feel free to open an appeal in Meta to discuss it.
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April 07, 2022, 12:35:22 PM |
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I have previously cited what is deception, fraud, the pyramid of Ponzi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud(In law, fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception(Deception or falsehood is an act or statement that misleads, hides the truth, or promotes a belief, concept, or idea that is not true.) I always welcome warning people about high risks, possible fraud and loss of money. I categorically oppose accusations without real evidence and consider this a false accusation. And I am also categorically against the sentence of scammer without real evidence of my guilt.
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April 08, 2022, 10:23:45 AM |
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What exactly is the deception?
All honestly described on the site.
Today 90% of Internet projects is hiding this or that information from investors, and the audit of Internet projects can last several years.
The site is registered 2022-02-21.
He's not in the archives. He's new.
. There are some time that you need not a prophet to tell you a Ponzi scheme. You can notice Ponzi schemes Base on their rules, terms and conditions and the instructions they give. When I enter the site from the link the OP provided and I carefully read and analyse the information on the platform. And I discovered two important information from site. 1. Anonymity: Registration. What do you mean by anonymity, does it mean, your company has no name, or the people that are registering are ghost or spiritual beings. If you company is a genuine site, the name of the register must appear for confirmation. Anything anonymity in online is for hidden agenda. 2. Zero Trust: How? If I will not trust your feedback, there means, the whole system can never be trusted. A company gave me feedback on a particular issue and you are here telling me that I should not trust the feedback, then what should I trust? Finally I come to and conclusion that this a Ponzi scheme.
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April 08, 2022, 11:46:09 AM |
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What exactly is the deception?
All honestly described on the site.
Today 90% of Internet projects is hiding this or that information from investors, and the audit of Internet projects can last several years.
The site is registered 2022-02-21.
He's not in the archives. He's new.
. There are some time that you need not a prophet to tell you a Ponzi scheme. You can notice Ponzi schemes Base on their rules, terms and conditions and the instructions they give. When I enter the site from the link the OP provided and I carefully read and analyse the information on the platform. And I discovered two important information from site. 1. Anonymity: Registration. What do you mean by anonymity, does it mean, your company has no name, or the people that are registering are ghost or spiritual beings. If you company is a genuine site, the name of the register must appear for confirmation. Anything anonymity in online is for hidden agenda. 2. Zero Trust: How? If I will not trust your feedback, there means, the whole system can never be trusted. A company gave me feedback on a particular issue and you are here telling me that I should not trust the feedback, then what should I trust? https://imgur.com/a/vLlJqKIFinally I come to and conclusion that this a Ponzi scheme. Do you even understand how the blockchain (BTC, LTC) works, and why it cannot be changed? What is the foundation for creating a crypt? Why do the laws of mathematics (cryptography) work regardless of the laws adopted by people? If you understand, then I can explain to you what zero trust is, that your ID could be your BTC or LTC wallet (address). Answer your own question: Why do you use the crypt???
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April 08, 2022, 10:16:58 PM |
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Why is everyone silent about the accusations of fraud against me?
Guys, provide concrete, real evidence that I am a scammer!
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April 13, 2022, 10:34:19 AM |
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Why is everyone silent about the accusations of fraud against me?
Guys, provide concrete, real evidence that I am a scammer!
If you still have doubts that the pyramid you created is a ponzi scheme, look at the FBI website in the section " SCAMS AND SAFETY/The Internet/ Common Scams And Crimes" - what Ponzi Schemes are: https://www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-scams-and-crimes/ponzi-schemes "“Ponzi” schemes promise high financial returns or dividends not available through traditional investments. Instead of investing the funds of victims, however, the con artist pays “dividends” to initial investors using the funds of subsequent investors." This is exactly what you planned to do. And since the ponzi scheme is a scam, then you, as the creator of the project and engaged in its promotion, are accordingly a scammer.
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May 18, 2022, 09:41:50 PM |
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The game was declared invalid because less than four bets were made in each game.
All bets are returned to the players.
The next game will start 22.05.2022.
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