What happened to the forum plagiarism rules?

[LoyceV]

However I have found his another plagiarism post and already report to moderator (I don't want to make another report on the "report plagiarism" thread since it can easily noticed by him and he will add the sources again)

Yep, that's how you get users with notification bots banned for plagiarism

he failed to follow LoyceV suggestion

It's not the first time he failed to fix his plagiarism.

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[lovesmayfamilis]

Just wanted to tell you guys, the plagiarism rule is still exist

Thank you for showing Naim027's true face and bringing this liar to light. Watching his unscrupulous behavior, I was disappointed by some of the accounts I respected earlier, who categorically did not see his lies.

But after such words, instead of feeling some kind of shame, he continued to lie and invent stories, thereby feeling his impunity. I did not double-check his account, hoping that after the discovery of plagiarism, the owner would have to check every word in his account. But that did not happen. Whatever one may say, justice has triumphed.

[Rikafip]

I want to say thank you for moderators to take care of this case and I wouldn't surprised if I see there's new account/low rank account shitposting on WO thread to earn easy merit

Iirc there are couple of low rank accounts that had same M.O.; they both active in Bangladesh local thread and trying to farm merit in WO thread so maybe he already has an alt account ready. Keep in mind that an average monthly salary in Bangladesh is ~$150  and he was making almost double that in his signature campaign so if he doesn't already have an alt account ready, he is making a new one as we speak.

[FatFork]

I want to say thank you for moderators to take care of this case and I wouldn't surprised if I see there's new account/low rank account shitposting on WO thread to earn easy merit

Iirc there are couple of low rank accounts that had same M.O.; they both active in Bangladesh local thread and trying to farm merit in WO thread so maybe he already has an alt account ready. Keep in mind that an average monthly salary in Bangladesh is ~$150  and he was making almost double that in his signature campaign so if he doesn't already have an alt account ready, he is making a new one as we speak.

Surely he has plenty more accounts in the pipeline. Looking at his history alone, we can conclude it was just another alt from his account pool. The account was registered in 2017, but he didn't start actively using it until the end of 2021, mostly in the WO thread, where he wrote several dozen posts a week while "building" the account. Although he accidentally exposed his alt, Dic3L0v3r, it would be naive to believe that it was his only one.

[xSkylarx]

Anyone can enlighten me what really are these rules? Sometimes I want to make a thread but I'm afraid to actually do it because of this rule that can result to my account being banned forever.

Let's say I create a thread "Different strategies in trading" and gather info on different sources. Post some of those information while including the links where I got them, is that considered plagiarizing because the statements are not from me even though I gave credits?

[Coyster]

Let's say I create a thread "Different strategies in trading" and gather info on different sources. Post some of those information while including the links where I got them, is that considered plagiarizing because the statements are not from me even though I gave credits?

No. In the forum including a link is quite enough for a post not to be considered as being plagiarized. But why would you just make a thread that is word for word/exactly the same with the original source, only to add a link in the end, without including your own thoughts/ideas nor putting it in such as way that it becomes one other users can discuss about.

Having said that, the best thing to do to keep discussions flowing is if you have a useful link/source about an information you want to share, you should read it up first, and then post somewhat of a summary of it here, with your own thoughts/ideas, in your own words, and then include the link in the end for users to know where you got the larger knowledge from and might want to visit the original source to get more knowledge.

[Jawhead999]

Let's say I create a thread "Different strategies in trading" and gather info on different sources. Post some of those information while including the links where I got them, is that considered plagiarizing because the statements are not from me even though I gave credits?

As long as you include all the sources and didn't missed any source you used on your thread, you're fine. Plagiarism is you're claiming the words/sentence is from yours and didn't include the original sources, this forum doesn't have any strict rules how to write someone words.

There's a 3 kind users in this forum about the way they mention about the sources:
1. A user that mention the news on his post e.g. based on this news bla bla bla
2. A user that quoting the whole words and sentences that didn't belong to him

3. A user that didn't mention the news and only put all the sources on the bottom thread.

Either 1, 2 or 3 you wouldn't get banned.

[xSkylarx]

Having said that, the best thing to do to keep discussions flowing is if you have a useful link/source about an information you want to share, you should read it up first, and then post somewhat of a summary of it here, with your own thoughts/ideas, in your own words, and then include the link in the end for users to know where you got the larger knowledge from and might want to visit the original source to get more knowledge.

This cleared my concern about creating a thread, I thought that putting a summary is still considered as plagiarizing offense.

There's a 3 kind users in this forum about the way they mention about the sources:
1. A user that mention the news on his post e.g. based on this news bla bla bla
2. A user that quoting the whole words and sentences that didn't belong to him

3. A user that didn't mention the news and only put all the sources on the bottom thread.

Either 1, 2 or 3 you wouldn't get banned.

Those are the rules I'm already aware of but creating a thread is a different level for me, you need to be very careful doing it because it has more content from multiple sources compared to what you do regularly.

[Coyster]

This cleared my concern about creating a thread, I thought that putting a summary is still considered as plagiarizing offense.

No it is not. But you ought to be careful when doing this, when summarizing an original text, you must ensure that you have understood it very well, if you have, summarizing it in your own words would be very easy and will be original too. But if you do not understand the text and you try to do it, you will only be paraphrasing it, which is plagiarism. There are users who just paraphrase original texts from somewhere else and post it here without any link to the source, and thus claim ownership, that is plagiarism, so make sure whenever you want to share knowledge, you are actually knowledgeable about it; and if you are not so sure of yourself/to remove all doubts, just add the link to the original text in the end.

[DdmrDdmr]

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If one is to simply put statements that are extracted as copy/paste from a given source, although providing a link will let you off the hook from a plagiarism point of view, it would be better (though not mandatory) to place the text in a quoted block/s. That would allow the reader to discern what part of the post is originated elsewhere from what are the OPs own words (if conducted properly).

Often, we come across posts that are literally, or very close to being literally, providing content from a given site, with no other added value (i.e. opinion, criticism, questions, complementary cross-references, etc.). That kind of post tends to have some clear drawbacks:

-   It does not help meriters (if applicable) to discern what’s what, and although the post may catch some stray merits, it is kind of deceiving, and likely counter-productive in the long run.

-   It denotes that the OP has made no real additional effort to dissect the information (so why bring it forward in the first case – other than to merit phish or to comply with campaign quotas).

-   It tends to relate to people that then do not interact with the posters that add their perspective on the thread.

-   It could be reported as low value content if it brings nothing of added value.

[Agbe]

Anyone can enlighten me what really are these rules? Sometimes I want to make a thread but I'm afraid to actually do it because of this rule that can result to my account being banned forever.

Let's say I create a thread "Different strategies in trading" and gather info on different sources. Post some of those information while including the links where I got them, is that considered plagiarizing because the statements are not from me even though I gave credits?

But by the right you supposed quote all the sites the information were gotten so that the readers can go to the sites and confirm the information by themselves if it is correct because nobody is an island. Nobody came to this world and know everything the day she or he came to the world. Everyone learned from one another therefore, where you learned from most be given reference to honor the author. And also when you are taking information from another person, you should also contribute to knowledge. That is your suggestions and criticism will also help the author to improve on his writings.

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If one is to simply put statements that are extracted as copy/paste from a given source, although providing a link will let you off the hook from a plagiarism point of view, it would be better (though not mandatory) to place the text in a quoted block/s. That would allow the reader to discern what part of the post is originated elsewhere from what are the OPs own words (if conducted properly).

Often, we come across posts that are literally, or very close to being literally, providing content from a given site, with no other added value (i.e. opinion, criticism, questions, complementary cross-references, etc.). That kind of post tends to have some clear drawbacks:

-   It does not help meriters (if applicable) to discern what’s what, and although the post may catch some stray merits, it is kind of deceiving, and likely counter-productive in the long run.

-   It denotes that the OP has made no real additional effort to dissect the information (so why bring it forward in the first case – other than to merit phish or to comply with campaign quotas).

-   It tends to relate to people that then do not interact with the posters that add their perspective on the thread.

-   It could be reported as low value content if it brings nothing of added value.

I hope DdmrDdmr has said all. Because there is no way one wrote 100 articles even on his initiative that he or she would not have similarities with another person article, sometimes the topics are different but the ideas are the same or the ideas are the same but some of the topics would be the same. Even sometimes words would be the same. So there will be homographs, homograms, the same phrases and clauses. Why is it like that? Because we use the 44 English symbols and the rules of english. But if I am to use my language (mother tongue) to write there will no longer homographs, the same clauses and phrase, even at that tribal language level, there must be similarities (synonyms) in the writing.

Therefore, always honour the author of the article to avoid plagiarism.