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March 07, 2022, 08:08:27 PM
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People who really need it for work or something important will just use a VPN or tor. Imo problems with payments will be far more concerning. Lots of employers would rather find a new worker than consider paying in crypto.

Exact, there are some campaings which collect money to give Russian the possiblity to buy VPN plans in order to be able to read source other than the Russian propaganda. I think young Russians who are very familiar with technology already managed to get VPN or TOR access.
I'm worried about the older citizens that are not used to technologies because they are the ones that will be affected, we know that older people love to use social media nowadays especially facebook but if this one thing that makes them happy will get banned, what are they going to do now? their lives are going to be boring.

Let's hope there are youngsters that are going to be concerned with them and help them set up a VPN so that they can continue their access on the social media sites. Nice to know that there are people that are also concerned about Russia, I thought all the people now are collecting donations to help the Ukrainians I was wrong with this.

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March 07, 2022, 08:28:30 PM
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Upwork and a few other freelance platforms announced today that they will ban Russians. So banning of Facebook is gonna be one of the last problems for Russian workers. If sanctions will keep mounting, Russia will be as isolated as Iran and NK, so fleeing will be the only hope for ordinary Russians to experience the pre-war life.
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March 07, 2022, 11:45:18 PM
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I'm worried about the older citizens that are not used to technologies because they are the ones that will be affected, we know that older people love to use social media nowadays especially facebook but if this one thing that makes them happy will get banned, what are they going to do now? their lives are going to be boring.
How do you know if their citizens (young and old) are actually using the western apps facebook or twitter and not their own VK or other regional social media apps?

According to this blog written in 2020, VK is ranked first with 97 million active users (most popular among youngsters aged 18-34). OK.ru, which is said to be popular among older gens, comes in second with 71 million users. Facebook and Twitter are 4th and 6th respectively.
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March 07, 2022, 11:58:46 PM
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Upwork and a few other freelance platforms announced today that they will ban Russians. So banning of Facebook is gonna be one of the last problems for Russian workers. If sanctions will keep mounting, Russia will be as isolated as Iran and NK, so fleeing will be the only hope for ordinary Russians to experience the pre-war life.
Apart from these platforms tiktok have stopped its services in Russia. More sanctions keeps counting. Russia needs to make some fast moves against the sanctions if not the sufferers will be the citizens and not Putin. He has got good wealth to enjoy his lifetime. Anyhow the good thing, in war people are helping each other in some way. This time much seen with the polish, Hungarian, slovakian people.

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March 08, 2022, 02:10:16 AM
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 Websites can't be banned in this day and age and that has to be a lesson for everyone. I mean our government tried to ban some places as well, but they failed miserably, because we all just used VPN and moved on. Even today there are some websites that are blocked, and we are still using it without a problem. So all in all there is absolutely no way to keep Russian people from using any of these websites, there is no way to keep anyone away from these websites, they will just use VPN and still reach it. Which goes to show you that, all these sanctions could be waltz around and find a better method, and not keep anyone in russia, stay away from rest of the world.
The Websites cannot be banned if we use a VPN service. But what worries Russians most is the rumor that Russia will completely shut down the global internet on March 11, 2022. In March 2019, Russia ran a test of Private Internet, which will disconnect from the rest of the world but keep the Internet working for its citizens. The same way North Korea is doing with its own country. This is really terrible for citizens living in Russia.



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March 08, 2022, 05:37:24 AM
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 Websites can't be banned in this day and age and that has to be a lesson for everyone. I mean our government tried to ban some places as well, but they failed miserably, because we all just used VPN and moved on. Even today there are some websites that are blocked, and we are still using it without a problem. So all in all there is absolutely no way to keep Russian people from using any of these websites, there is no way to keep anyone away from these websites, they will just use VPN and still reach it. Which goes to show you that, all these sanctions could be waltz around and find a better method, and not keep anyone in russia, stay away from rest of the world.
The Websites cannot be banned if we use a VPN service. But what worries Russians most is the rumor that Russia will completely shut down the global internet on March 11, 2022. In March 2019, Russia ran a test of Private Internet, which will disconnect from the rest of the world but keep the Internet working for its citizens. The same way North Korea is doing with its own country. This is really terrible for citizens living in Russia.

This isn't terrible, because they themselves trying to isolate and test. If I'm not wrong every first world country will have this prepared and tested. Only Russia and North Korea revealed it to the world. Before making such tests countries need to analyse whether they can self fulfill their needs without foreign investment and imports. Each and every country have some form of dependence over the other.

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March 08, 2022, 07:27:18 AM
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I'm worried about the older citizens that are not used to technologies because they are the ones that will be affected, we know that older people love to use social media nowadays especially facebook but if this one thing that makes them happy will get banned, what are they going to do now? their lives are going to be boring.
How do you know if their citizens (young and old) are actually using the western apps facebook or twitter and not their own VK or other regional social media apps?

According to this blog written in 2020, VK is ranked first with 97 million active users (most popular among youngsters aged 18-34). OK.ru, which is said to be popular among older gens, comes in second with 71 million users. Facebook and Twitter are 4th and 6th respectively.

You're right. I had to laugh for a long time when I read that the only joy for the elderly in Russia is Facebook and Twitter. What can be in a person's head when he had this thought?
I just want to say that there are many sites and social networks where people in Russia can communicate among themselves. Moreover, someone is worried about WhatsApp turning off, but again, the relatives of Russian people living abroad are not stupid people. They will easily switch to social networks that are available in Russia.
The whole problem is not worth the trouble.

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You're right. I had to laugh for a long time when I read that the only joy for the elderly in Russia is Facebook and Twitter. What can be in a person's head when he had this thought?
I just want to say that there are many sites and social networks where people in Russia can communicate among themselves. Moreover, someone is worried about WhatsApp turning off, but again, the relatives of Russian people living abroad are not stupid people. They will easily switch to social networks that are available in Russia.
The whole problem is not worth the trouble.

The Russian government blocking Facebook and other social media is not a very important thing to worry about.  This is not a basic human need that if they do not play social media then they will die.  So whatever it is and whatever the reason, this is only a little disturbing for the user's comfort but psychologically they will immediately switch to applications that are still allowed.  Humans have a basic nature that is easy to change according to their needs and desires.  Moreover, this condition is a retaliation for the prohibition measures taken by Europe and the US on Russia.
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You're right. I had to laugh for a long time when I read that the only joy for the elderly in Russia is Facebook and Twitter. What can be in a person's head when he had this thought?
I just want to say that there are many sites and social networks where people in Russia can communicate among themselves. Moreover, someone is worried about WhatsApp turning off, but again, the relatives of Russian people living abroad are not stupid people. They will easily switch to social networks that are available in Russia.
The whole problem is not worth the trouble.

The Russian government blocking Facebook and other social media is not a very important thing to worry about.  This is not a basic human need that if they do not play social media then they will die.  So whatever it is and whatever the reason, this is only a little disturbing for the user's comfort but psychologically they will immediately switch to applications that are still allowed.  Humans have a basic nature that is easy to change according to their needs and desires.  Moreover, this condition is a retaliation for the prohibition measures taken by Europe and the US on Russia.

I agree that banning some social networks will not have any effect on anyone's economy, there are always some alternatives! Maybe on an individual level, this situation affects some people, some people have been making money on some platforms and now they will not be able to do it, but they will also manage to find alternatives somehow!
However, we are talking about social networks, we can live without them! And at the moment because of the strong propaganda on both sides, and that isn't very interesting, too many lies and deceptions, so it's better to move away from them for mental health if nothing else!

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March 08, 2022, 10:26:47 PM
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 Websites can't be banned in this day and age and that has to be a lesson for everyone. I mean our government tried to ban some places as well, but they failed miserably, because we all just used VPN and moved on. Even today there are some websites that are blocked, and we are still using it without a problem. So all in all there is absolutely no way to keep Russian people from using any of these websites, there is no way to keep anyone away from these websites, they will just use VPN and still reach it. Which goes to show you that, all these sanctions could be waltz around and find a better method, and not keep anyone in russia, stay away from rest of the world.
The Websites cannot be banned if we use a VPN service. But what worries Russians most is the rumor that Russia will completely shut down the global internet on March 11, 2022. In March 2019, Russia ran a test of Private Internet, which will disconnect from the rest of the world but keep the Internet working for its citizens. The same way North Korea is doing with its own country. This is really terrible for citizens living in Russia.

This isn't terrible, because they themselves trying to isolate and test. If I'm not wrong every first world country will have this prepared and tested. Only Russia and North Korea revealed it to the world. Before making such tests countries need to analyse whether they can self fulfill their needs without foreign investment and imports. Each and every country have some form of dependence over the other.
Each and every country is dependent on each other because at some point we all need it and if the Russian could disconnect from the rest of the world but keep the Internet working for its citizens have you guys thought about the long span they can keep the internet working?
Having said that, I think we need a political solution cause the masses should be the ones paying for some people's political ambition.
I watch a video of a Russian soldier which was rescue, cloth and fed by the Ukrainian. Honestly, this need to be stop.

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Puttin has had it figured it before the invasion of Ukraine took place. Puttin plans to protect his sovereignty based on the severe sanctions given to them by taking Russia's fate into his hand. Not by being at the mercy and controlled by others.

Russia is aiming to build its internet, social media platforms, technology industry and its own e-commerce companies. Just the way China did theirs. China's are the main allies of Russians

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This decision alone in blocking social media sites would make the economy go even worse in my opinion!

I don’t know what would be your opinion about this guys. It pains me to be honest, as I’ve already felt what they’re feeling right now in getting isolated from the world.


I fully agree with, blocking access to social media is wrong and hurts the average citizen. Unfortunately this is part of the whole new censorship strategy in Russia. Its not only social media, but also the big news companies and radio stations that are getting censored. Many journalist had to leave Russia because of the new law, that threatened to imprison journalist for up to 15 years.
If using social media for work, things are even more terrible. I don't think that the average person in Russia losing his job is going to make Putin change his mind. From Russia I only knew a few people and they told me that they are using Telegram more than the Meta Services, also tiktok seems more popular than Instagram. Maybe people can switch to other services instead. Blocking and censoring Internet access in China and Russia both is wrong, and I hope that people can use VPNs without getting into trouble.
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March 09, 2022, 06:48:07 AM
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Secondly from my own perspective, i see Russia maybe trying to emulate what China did by blocking all international service providers and their satellites in China thereby building its own from within, using their own Chinese google and internet and all other social and economical services both online and in physical as within China such as vehicles, phones, home appliances etc. All were China home made and their official language is Chinese. Possibly this may be one of Putin reasons to stir up war, got disconnected from the SWIFT service providers and later come up with it own system from within and this will help them maintain more privacy and i think that's why they wanted to first conquer Ukraine which may be use as an entry point by EU, US or any other foreign country.

But China did not start a war to achieve all that. Russia under Putin is power drunk and does not care whatever happens to anyone for him to achieve whatever his mind is chasing. He should have banned his citizens from using social media and created his own applications without getting into war. Putin will end up destroying himself like Hitler. Maybe somebody in his cabinet will shoot the idiot in the face soon and end all this.

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March 09, 2022, 07:09:58 AM
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What is worst?

1. Getting your house blown up by the Russian army and losing all your earthly belongings or even worst...one of your family members!

or

2. Losing access to your Social media account, because your government wanted to invade another country?

Let's not forget that Social media are also being used as a Propaganda tool by some Russian people and they are trying to justify this war. I have seen some Russian people celebrating the invasion and also mocking Ukrainian people on social media.

There are always two sides to a story..... and unfortunately sanctions are one of the effective tools to stop aggressors from continuing their actions or even funding it with these tools.  Roll Eyes (Example - International money transfers though SWIFT to receive payment for Oil and Gas)

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March 09, 2022, 07:22:58 AM
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Let's not forget that Social media are also being used as a Propaganda tool by some Russian people and they are trying to justify this war. I have seen some Russian people celebrating the invasion and also mocking Ukrainian people on social media.

The story says the social media ban is by Russia itself and not the EU or any international community blocking them. You think if the Russians celebrate and mock Ukrainian people on social media will not be to their advantage? The reason for Putin putting a social media ban on his country is because he knows that, America and the EU will eventually ban Russia. It will happen.

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If they are banning Facebook, then they are definitely banning WhatsApp, Instagram, and Messenger as well since these apps are owned by the same Facebook (Meta). But, did they state why they decided to ban these social media platforms in their country? Or did they ban it because they didn’t want citizens in the country going on a full rampage on these platforms to criticize the government?

But, it is very bad for a government to do such a thing and prevent people from having access to information and being able to connect with the world. The actions that they have taken is in no way going to be helping them, because things will just keep getting worse, and it’s just very bad.

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Now this is getting worse, especially for the ordinary and innocent Russian citizens who are already suffering economic problems! They don’t deserve this to be honest, just like what China did to their citizens!

Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-blocks-facebook-twitter/

A huge blow for the citizens, foreigners and overseas workers who worked there using FB and Twitter as their main source of communication to the rest of the world. As the economy continues to collapse in Russia due to the ongoing conflict between Putin’s government and Ukraine. Not sure if they are also banning Messenger, Whatsapp and Instagram since it’s part of Meta.

I have amazing crypto friends from Russia, and I even met some of them in person before the pandemic began. Now it means that they are going to use VPN in order to access Facebook and Twitter. I just feel bad and sorry for them. I don’t know what is going on with the Russian media regulator’s head right now. Maybe he was ordered by Putin or so.

There are also Filipinos who are working there as OFWs in Russia. Not only that they are struggling to send remittances to their families because of the stiff sanctions made by the West (especially taking off SWIFT), they are going to find it difficult to communicate to their loved ones and friends.

This decision alone in blocking social media sites would make the economy go even worse in my opinion!

I don’t know what would be your opinion about this guys. It pains me to be honest, as I’ve already felt what they’re feeling right now in getting isolated from the world.


"Now this is getting worse, especially for the ordinary and innocent Russian citizens who are already suffering economic problems!" - there are no ordinary innocent citizens of Russia. They are as guilty as the people of Germany who voted for Hitler and his party. They voted for Putin's party, they supported his decisions, they still support mass terrorism and the killing of civilians in Ukraine. I am a citizen of Ukraine, I know what I'm talking about.

And all the blocking of Internet resources was started by RUSSIA ITSELF 5 years ago !!! They blocked access to free media, they forced to provide access to instant messengers FOR ILLEGAL eavesdropping of people, and persecution. And now you're out of regret? This is all a consequence of the implementation of the new regime of fascism, which is being developed by Putin and his gang of global kleptomaniac terrorists....


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If they are banning Facebook, then they are definitely banning WhatsApp, Instagram, and Messenger as well since these apps are owned by the same Facebook (Meta). But, did they state why they decided to ban these social media platforms in their country? Or did they ban it because they didn’t want citizens in the country going on a full rampage on these platforms to criticize the government?

But, it is very bad for a government to do such a thing and prevent people from having access to information and being able to connect with the world. The actions that they have taken is in no way going to be helping them, because things will just keep getting worse, and it’s just very bad.
I am pretty sure that it was both. I mean surely sanctioning against these companies means that they could send a message to the world saying if the companies there are getting off of Russia and not sell products there, then they could also ban companies as well and not allow them to work in Russia.

However, at the same time it is focused on social media, they could have done it with clothing companies and all of that, Burger King decided not to leave for example, they could have been kicked off, but it was social media, why? And that part is because of citizens, if citizens can write whatever they want here, then it would be danger bells for Russian oligarchs and Putin, so they went with facebook and twitter and so forth.

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In the short term, of course, it will have no effect, but in the long term, there will be a lot of economic impact because most e-commerce in Russia also relies heavily on Twitter and Facebook to help marketing.



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I would guess that just like China did it, they will be able to get some sort of "Russian version" of all of these and just cater to Russian citizens. They will of course always want to deal with rest of the world, but at the very least they could connect all of Russia together somehow and that means something.

If there is like some marketplace where everyone uses, such as amazon, but a Russian version, and it can get enough traction, that would be great (maybe there is one) and if there is a facebook, or twitter, or whatever social media then that would be great too. I would still assume that getting all of the world out of their network doesn't make sense, like China is cool enough with them right?

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