Zelensky, it is time to take pragmatic decision.

[Markinzo]

This war between Russia and Ukraine is one in which a pragmatic leader could call to an end for the  sake of his people. For Ukraine there's no further need for Zelensky to still trying to push hard, find ways out to talk with Vladimir Putin, not as a show of weakness but as a pragmatic leader.

Cause looking at the politics here you'll find out that neither has NATO placed an imposition of No_Fly Zone or has the United States of America cease from buying Russian oil amidst the war. It's quite apparent as to their reasons why (National interest).

All we hear from the Western media is deception upon deception as to how Ukraine is still stand tall, resilient, and unperturbed. While to the best of my knowledge not a single missile has been fired into Russia from Ukraine soil. For no level of aid requested by Zelensky can salvage the situation.

However, even if Putin is charged with war_crimes. What is the tendency of capturing him and have him answer to charges of war_crimes? Is it same NATO countries that depend strongly on Russia oil and gas?

Zelensky should consider himself to have been fooled by the Western countries, including NATO member countries and, should fall back to Putin to find amendable ways to end this war, irrespective of how humiliating and abase it might seem, cause a CEASE_FIRE for him and his people is better than a feeling of abasement.

Most times, it's advisable to view issues from different lens.

[tvbcof]

The WEF often choose their 'head of state' actors based on their weaknesses, and that often includes a propensity for drug abuse.  That's why you often see them disappear in times of crisis a-la Trudeau-Castro of Canada or Zelensky of Ukraine.

Rumor has it that Zelensky is currently on a drug binge, but the location is unclear.  Give it another week or so.  After he recovers from the crash he might be in a condition to consider your heart-felt plea.

[af_newbie]

This war between Russia and Ukraine is one in which a pragmatic leader could call to an end for the  sake of his people. For Ukraine there's no further need for Zelensky to still trying to push hard, find ways out to talk with Vladimir Putin, not as a show of weakness but as a pragmatic leader.

Cause looking at the politics here you'll find out that neither has NATO placed an imposition of No_Fly Zone or has the United States of America cease from buying Russian oil amidst the war. It's quite apparent as to their reasons why (National interest).

All we hear from the Western media is deception upon deception as to how Ukraine is still stand tall, resilient, and unperturbed. While to the best of my knowledge not a single missile has been fired into Russia from Ukraine soil. For no level of aid requested by Zelensky can salvage the situation.

However, even if Putin is charged with war_crimes. What is the tendency of capturing him and have him answer to charges of war_crimes? Is it same NATO countries that depend strongly on Russia oil and gas?

Zelensky should consider himself to have been fooled by the Western countries, including NATO member countries and, should fall back to Putin to find amendable ways to end this war, irrespective of how humiliating and abase it might seem, cause a CEASE_FIRE for him and his people is better than a feeling of abasement.

Most times, it's advisable to view issues from different lens.

I hope Putin realizes that he permanently (in his and our lifetimes) damaged the image of Russia.  Any Russian who will travel, try to work, or immigrate abroad when this war is over will be discriminated against no matter how good they are as people.  For decades into the foreseeable future Russians and their children will be asking the world for forgiveness and will do anything to prove to the world that they are not Putinians and/or Soviets. Just like Germans to this day are trying to prove to the world that they are not Nazis.

People will perceive them as violent, blood-thirsty, imperialistic, insane criminals.  Nobody will want to have anything to do with them.

Кaцaпи, вaм пoлный пиздeц.


source: https://twitter.com/ukrpravda_news/status/1500534758593466373

As for Ukraine, they have been left to fight by themselves, like Poland in 1939.  I do think they have a better chance to win this war than Poles had in 1939.  The sanctions will start biting at some point.  As long as the West supplies them weapons they will be ok.

At some point, I think there will be a humanitarian/supply no-fly zone in western Ukraine to provide ongoing support to cripple the Russian army and destroy their economy.

I do think the whole world will be affected.  I hope that Germans and Hungarians realize that Putin can cut off the supply of gas to them at any moment. Just because they want to buy from him, does not mean he will continue selling it to them.  These two countries already gave in to Putin's original master plan by not supporting energy sanctions, and now they will be dancing to the music that Putin will be playing.  

Unless of course, they have longer-term plans to cut off Russia completely.

Any civilized government in Europe should increase military spending to 10% of their GDP, and place existential importance on the energy independence from Russia.  Nuclear power stations and nuclear weapons are a must. Unfortunately.  The world has to thank Putin for that.

[Agbe]

In any conflict there is a proactive measure to end the disagreement. Zelensky wanted to join NATO and Putin refused because Ukrain will be a Judah to them. Zelensky would have left the idea of Joining the Organization when Russia refused in the submit and look for an alternative means to the issue.

Zelensky was also trying to exercise his sovereignty to the world..so why do he cries out for help. Now he has lost hundreds of citizens and will also lost out from joining the organization. That is double lost.

What is happening now is the show of BALANCE OF POWER...The powers in the international system must be balance with equilibrium.

Zelensky was using idealist (theory) mind to test his powers but Putin uses Realist (practical) to showcase his powers..

Zelensky (Ukrainian Ruling Class would have used the proactive model to stop the war for onset.

[tvbcof]

In any conflict there is a proactive measure to end the disagreement. Zelensky wanted to join NATO and Putin refused because Ukrain will be a Judah to them. Zelensky would have left the idea of Joining the Organization when Russia refused in the submit and look for an alternative means to the issue.

Zelensky was also trying to exercise his sovereignty to the world..so why do he cries out for help. Now he has lost hundreds of citizens and will also lost out from joining the organization. That is double lost.

What is happening now is the show of BALANCE OF POWER...The powers in the international system must be balance with equilibrium.

Zelensky was using idealist (theory) mind to test his powers but Putin uses Realist (practical) to showcase his powers..

Zelensky (Ukrainian Ruling Class would have used the proactive model to stop the war for onset.

For those who have not seen Zelensky at work before being selected for his current gig, enjoy:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/cXL8wgh4lsMc/

It's relatively clear why he was selected to be the guy to go up against Putin in the 'Russia invades Ukraine' act of the kabuki theater show.


Edit:  It gets even more amusing!  From Wikipedia (until it is edited and thrown down the memory hole):

...
After Zelenskyy's inauguration most leading figures of Kvartal 95 joined Zelenskyy's administration as Deputy Heads of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine and one was appointed Deputy Head of the Ukrainian Secret Service.[6][7]

Kvartal-95 is Zelensky's media platform.

[Agbe]

This war between Russia and Ukraine is one in which a pragmatic leader could call to an end for the  sake of his people. For Ukraine there's no further need for Zelensky to still trying to push hard, find ways out to talk with Vladimir Putin, not as a show of weakness but as a pragmatic leader.

Cause looking at the politics here you'll find out that neither has NATO placed an imposition of No_Fly Zone or has the United States of America cease from buying Russian oil amidst the war. It's quite apparent as to their reasons why (National interest).

All we hear from the Western media is deception upon deception as to how Ukraine is still stand tall, resilient, and unperturbed. While to the best of my knowledge not a single missile has been fired into Russia from Ukraine soil. For no level of aid requested by Zelensky can salvage the situation.

However, even if Putin is charged with war_crimes. What is the tendency of capturing him and have him answer to charges of war_crimes? Is it same NATO countries that depend strongly on Russia oil and gas?

Zelensky should consider himself to have been fooled by the Western countries, including NATO member countries and, should fall back to Putin to find amendable ways to end this war, irrespective of how humiliating and abase it might seem, cause a CEASE_FIRE for him and his people is better than a feeling of abasement.

Most times, it's advisable to view issues from different lens.

I hope Putin realizes that he permanently (in his and our lifetimes) damaged the image of Russia.  Any Russian who will travel, try to work, or immigrate abroad when this war is over will be discriminated against no matter how good they are as people.  For decades into the foreseeable future Russians and their children will be asking the world for forgiveness and will do anything to prove to the world that they are not Putinians and/or Soviets. Just like Germans to this day are trying to prove to the world that they are not Nazis.

People will perceive them as violent, blood-thirsty, imperialistic, insane criminals.  Nobody will want to have anything to do with them.

Кaцaпи, вaм пoлный пиздeц.


source: https://twitter.com/ukrpravda_news/status/1500534758593466373

As for Ukraine, they have been left to fight by themselves, like Poland in 1939.  I do think they have a better chance to win this war than Poles had in 1939.  The sanctions will start biting at some point.  As long as the West supplies them weapons they will be ok.

At some point, I think there will be a humanitarian/supply no-fly zone in western Ukraine to provide ongoing support to cripple the Russian army and destroy their economy.

I do think the whole world will be affected.  I hope that Germans and Hungarians realize that Putin can cut off the supply of gas to them at any moment. Just because they want to buy from him, does not mean he will continue selling it to them.  These two countries already gave in to Putin's original master plan by not supporting energy sanctions, and now they will be dancing to the music that Putin will be playing.  

Unless of course, they have longer-term plans to cut off Russia completely.

Any civilized government in Europe should increase military spending to 10% of their GDP, and place existential importance on the energy independence from Russia.  Nuclear power stations and nuclear weapons are a must. Unfortunately.  The world has to thank Putin for that.

Whao!!! See fresh bodies lying down lifeless because of war. This is waste of human resources. Zelensky would have prevented this waste of life. In politics, rascality is good but hiding, running and soft talk are part of the game.

[af_newbie]

This war between Russia and Ukraine is one in which a pragmatic leader could call to an end for the  sake of his people. For Ukraine there's no further need for Zelensky to still trying to push hard, find ways out to talk with Vladimir Putin, not as a show of weakness but as a pragmatic leader.

Cause looking at the politics here you'll find out that neither has NATO placed an imposition of No_Fly Zone or has the United States of America cease from buying Russian oil amidst the war. It's quite apparent as to their reasons why (National interest).

All we hear from the Western media is deception upon deception as to how Ukraine is still stand tall, resilient, and unperturbed. While to the best of my knowledge not a single missile has been fired into Russia from Ukraine soil. For no level of aid requested by Zelensky can salvage the situation.

However, even if Putin is charged with war_crimes. What is the tendency of capturing him and have him answer to charges of war_crimes? Is it same NATO countries that depend strongly on Russia oil and gas?

Zelensky should consider himself to have been fooled by the Western countries, including NATO member countries and, should fall back to Putin to find amendable ways to end this war, irrespective of how humiliating and abase it might seem, cause a CEASE_FIRE for him and his people is better than a feeling of abasement.

Most times, it's advisable to view issues from different lens.

I hope Putin realizes that he permanently (in his and our lifetimes) damaged the image of Russia.  Any Russian who will travel, try to work, or immigrate abroad when this war is over will be discriminated against no matter how good they are as people.  For decades into the foreseeable future Russians and their children will be asking the world for forgiveness and will do anything to prove to the world that they are not Putinians and/or Soviets. Just like Germans to this day are trying to prove to the world that they are not Nazis.

People will perceive them as violent, blood-thirsty, imperialistic, insane criminals.  Nobody will want to have anything to do with them.

Кaцaпи, вaм пoлный пиздeц.


source: https://twitter.com/ukrpravda_news/status/1500534758593466373

As for Ukraine, they have been left to fight by themselves, like Poland in 1939.  I do think they have a better chance to win this war than Poles had in 1939.  The sanctions will start biting at some point.  As long as the West supplies them weapons they will be ok.

At some point, I think there will be a humanitarian/supply no-fly zone in western Ukraine to provide ongoing support to cripple the Russian army and destroy their economy.

I do think the whole world will be affected.  I hope that Germans and Hungarians realize that Putin can cut off the supply of gas to them at any moment. Just because they want to buy from him, does not mean he will continue selling it to them.  These two countries already gave in to Putin's original master plan by not supporting energy sanctions, and now they will be dancing to the music that Putin will be playing.  

Unless of course, they have longer-term plans to cut off Russia completely.

Any civilized government in Europe should increase military spending to 10% of their GDP, and place existential importance on the energy independence from Russia.  Nuclear power stations and nuclear weapons are a must. Unfortunately.  The world has to thank Putin for that.

Whao!!! See fresh bodies lying down lifeless because of war. This is waste of human resources. Zelensky would have prevented this waste of life. In politics, rascality is good but hiding, running and soft talk are part of the game.

Go fuck yourself you worthless piece of shit.  Putin is responsible for these war crimes.

[tvbcof]

Whao!!! See fresh bodies lying down lifeless because of war. This is waste of human resources. Zelensky would have prevented this waste of life. In politics, rascality is good but hiding, running and soft talk are part of the game.

Go fuck yourself you worthless piece of shit.  Putin is responsible for these war crimes.

Zelensky was only able to be installed because what you call the 'Ukrainians' sniped both protesters and police goons alike to get stuff rolling in one of the 'color revolutions' that overturned their elected president.  That's basically a statement of fact at this point.

Would Putin do such things?  Probably if he actually needed to.  In this case he probably doesn't need to.

I blood pools about as large as those caused by the Rittenhouse 'shootings' underneath these 'dead bodies'.  I'm more inclined to believe that the pics were of something like this:

   https://www.bitchute.com/video/jjA1xSbdCOZ8/

[lumbanrang]

This war between Russia and Ukraine is one in which a pragmatic leader could call to an end for the  sake of his people. For Ukraine there's no further need for Zelensky to still trying to push hard, find ways out to talk with Vladimir Putin, not as a show of weakness but as a pragmatic leader.

I remember when Putin was interviewed by one of the journalists. He says that he is very easy to forgive, but the only thing he cannot forgive is betrayal. Putin felt that Zelensky betrayed them by joining NATO and ignoring the Minsk agreements and that was a fatal thing, because Zelensky indirectly invited NATO to the borders of Russia, which is their enemy. A meeting of the two leaders is necessary to resolve this issue and Ukraine should lower their egos for the good of their citizens.

[af_newbie]

This war between Russia and Ukraine is one in which a pragmatic leader could call to an end for the  sake of his people. For Ukraine there's no further need for Zelensky to still trying to push hard, find ways out to talk with Vladimir Putin, not as a show of weakness but as a pragmatic leader.

I remember when Putin was interviewed by one of the journalists. He says that he is very easy to forgive, but the only thing he cannot forgive is betrayal. Putin felt that Zelensky betrayed them by joining NATO and ignoring the Minsk agreements and that was a fatal thing, because Zelensky indirectly invited NATO to the borders of Russia, which is their enemy. A meeting of the two leaders is necessary to resolve this issue and Ukraine should lower their egos for the good of their citizens.

Russia already borders with NATO.  

It is not about what you think it is.

It is very simple.  Putin wanted to annex the whole of Ukraine to Russia, just like he did Crimea and Donbas regions.

“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” - Mike Tyson

Now, after a serious uppercut, Russia demands Ukraine to recognize the annexed regions and change the constitution to prevent them from ever joining NATO, and they promise to leave Ukraine.

I think Ukraine should ask Russia to demilitarize and decommission all of the nuclear weapons they have, remove their army from the territory
of Ukraine, pay for the damages they have caused, and pay compensation to the victims.  

Those should be the demands Ukraine should ask Russia in any future negotiations.

Until then it is an open hunting season for Russian conscripts.

[ibuddy122505]

This war between Russia and Ukraine is one in which a pragmatic leader could call to an end for the  sake of his people. For Ukraine there's no further need for Zelensky to still trying to push hard, find ways out to talk with Vladimir Putin, not as a show of weakness but as a pragmatic leader.

I remember when Putin was interviewed by one of the journalists. He says that he is very easy to forgive, but the only thing he cannot forgive is betrayal. Putin felt that Zelensky betrayed them by joining NATO and ignoring the Minsk agreements and that was a fatal thing, because Zelensky indirectly invited NATO to the borders of Russia, which is their enemy. A meeting of the two leaders is necessary to resolve this issue and Ukraine should lower their egos for the good of their citizens.

Putin have multiple interest before making any action to demilitarization. Ukraine president Zelenskyy did serious mix-up to put trust on US and NATO partners, no single soldiers to send Ukraine regardless of Zelenskyy's huge load of solicitation. Zelenskyy should accept all the demand, also need negotiate other things for the sake of the innocent citizens. Assuming the two parties remain their stand same as before there will be no improvement except for more annihilation in Ukraine.

Respected leaders of the western world, see only their own interest. This war was avoidable from the beginning, Ukraine could have been neutral. Now look their leader inability to settle on the ideal decision to their kin interest. Ukraine president could quit invading.

[lumbanrang]

This war between Russia and Ukraine is one in which a pragmatic leader could call to an end for the  sake of his people. For Ukraine there's no further need for Zelensky to still trying to push hard, find ways out to talk with Vladimir Putin, not as a show of weakness but as a pragmatic leader.

I remember when Putin was interviewed by one of the journalists. He says that he is very easy to forgive, but the only thing he cannot forgive is betrayal. Putin felt that Zelensky betrayed them by joining NATO and ignoring the Minsk agreements and that was a fatal thing, because Zelensky indirectly invited NATO to the borders of Russia, which is their enemy. A meeting of the two leaders is necessary to resolve this issue and Ukraine should lower their egos for the good of their citizens.

Russia already borders with NATO.  

It is not about what you think it is.

It is very simple.  Putin wanted to annex the whole of Ukraine to Russia, just like he did Crimea and Donbas regions.

“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” - Mike Tyson

Now, after a serious uppercut, Russia demands Ukraine to recognize the annexed regions and change the constitution to prevent them from ever joining NATO, and they promise to leave Ukraine.

I think Ukraine should ask Russia to demilitarize and decommission all of the nuclear weapons they have, remov their army from the territory
of Ukraine, pay for the damages they have caused, and pay compensation to the victims.  

Those should be the demands Ukraine should ask Russia in any future negotiations.

Until then it is an open hunting season for Russian conscripts.

From the start Putin did not want to attack the Ukrainians, especially after the Minsk agreements. But the President of Ukraine is looking for trouble by wanting to join NATO. Putin had warned Zelensky from the start to be careful with his actions, but he didn't seem to heed what Putin said. So that at its peak Putin carried out military operations in Ukraine to overthrow the Zelensky regime and did not intend to seize Ukraine.

And asking Russia to demilitarize and decommission all of the nuclear weapons they have doesn't seem reasonable. Why not ask all countries in the world that have nuclear weapons to do this? . From the start, Putin has stated that they are not stupid to use nuclear weapons just for this kind of war.

[Tash]

Zelensky is a drug addict puppet, he does as told, he's decision is made long time ago to play the punch clown.

As for the photo, that is a candidate of fake-est photo in history. When manta Claus has an accident with his Reindeer it would look something like it.
https://twitter.com/ukrpravda_news/status/1500534758593466373

At the end of the day don't really matter,  all is just "show", same symbology found in the two new countries, more of the same same junk.

[Mometaskers]

Whether you believe whatever conspiracy theory is going around and whichever side you are on, it's clearly to Ukraine's disadvantage to agree to all of Russia's demands. Majority of Ukraine's gas deposits are in those regions Russia has already annexed or supporting rebellion in, using the Russian nationals they've transplanted into those regions.

Not being able to join NATO in the future also mean that Ukraine basically becomes a vassal state of Russia. The threat of joining NATO has been one of Ukraine's bargaining chips for a long time and had it actually materialized, would have been one of their deterrents. And what guarantees Ukraine that agreeing to all these would perpetually guarantee peace with Russia? They've already invaded, they can do it again using some other excuse. Today it's "Ukraine is NAZI" who knows what they'll come up with next time.

[Zlantann]

I think Ukraine was used as an experiment. Russia is using them to show other former Soviet Members what would be the consequences if they push to Join NATO. Also, it serves as an example that NATO cannot protect non-NATO members regardless of the countries pro-West ideology. Meanwhile, NATO is using Ukraine to check if its weapons and support can undermine the Russian Military.

Russian's options to withdraw is too costly. Ukraine would be loosing viable and important territories and a perceived powerful relationship with NATO.

Russia has already started destroying Ukraine and thousands have lost their lives. For me it's too late to surrender. Let Ukraine ensure that all civilians are moved out of it's territory. The West and NATO should supply more military support.

No retreat, No surrender!!!!!

[Gyfts]

The demands from Putin were clear from the beginning. If Zelenskyy wanted to concede, he probably should have done so before thousands of lives were lost. There is no going back. If he is able to survive a 10+ year war without having been killed in the process, good for him. The ones that will suffer are the Ukrainians who asked for none of this and are unable to flee the country,

[af_newbie]

The demands from Putin were clear from the beginning. If Zelenskyy wanted to concede, he probably should have done so before thousands of lives were lost. There is no going back. If he is able to survive a 10+ year war without having been killed in the process, good for him. The ones that will suffer are the Ukrainians who asked for none of this and are unable to flee the country,

Don't forget the Russians, what is it ~5000/week killed?

250K/yr, or 2.5M in 10 years.  Once they enter the urban warfare stage, it will be 5000+/day Russians killed.

Let's go, Brandon!!!

Martial law and draft will be announced in Russia in a few weeks or months?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v14SnRtMffo

[KingScorpio]

i am afraid zelinksi is not free to choose he is being used and kept hostage by the countries far right and the western racist woketards. that clap for this criminal.

[Hetadrop]

It's time for Putin to end his war and remove his troops from Ukraine.
Russia should stop killing civillians every day: https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1501179216649408515?cxt=HHwWhsCyieiiodUpAAAA

It needs to stop and Putin should be shamed for his war crimes.

[Mario Vella]

It doesn't seem to end anytime soon. Russian requests for Ukraine are borderline insane and there is no point for Ukraine to surrender before they are beaten at this point. And Russia, even with suffering lots of casualties will not back down, that would show Russia as weak and would hurt Russian and especially Putin's pride.