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March 09, 2022, 02:24:53 PM
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Bitcoin was supposed to be the solution to all of this.
How come Bitcoin has not come to save us yet.?
Bitcoin was founded to be alternative to fiat and give the power back to the people from the banking institutions. It was not created to stop inflation or control it. Supply of bitcoin being deflationary is a good thing, but that does not solve the inflation problem in fiat market. For doing that governments need to reduce printing of banknotes.

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Why are we not being able to hedge against the inflation and prevent this from happening.
You can buy bitcoin when its price is low in fiat and hold that. Since bitcoin is deflationary, you are profiting during the selling phase.

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Inflation is very ugly, yet no one is doing anything about it.

why is that?
If you have something to offer, we are all ears.

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March 09, 2022, 09:09:32 PM
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What do you want to happen here? Do you need Bitcoin will pump parabolic immediately? I don't think it will be healthy for Bitcoin.
Yes,  I agree with you about inflation right now and it sucks too. But I am always looking forward to the long term, Bitcoin is one of the best ways to avoid this inflation. But having no patience, it's useless.


That's the point, I think that's totally normal when some people especially the newbies expect to see their money going to the moon always they think the market should always stay green, that's normal because none want to lose any money, I heard even some people are saying bitcoin is bad because they could that hight price prices and now they are not ina good situation, but we should always understand the market need to do some corrections and save the potential for higher targets, sometimes this correction can be huge. but if you look for the long term you won't have problems.

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March 09, 2022, 10:23:09 PM
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Yes inflation has happened, and what were you expecting to happen? Were you expecting to become a millionaire immediately you have invested your money in Bitcoin? If that was your expectation then I am sorry you would be highly disappointed.From 2018 to 2021, the price of Bitcoin was very low, why didn’t you invest all this while, or even invest in 2015 when the price of Bitcoin was as low as $200? But, no most of you chose to neglect Bitcoin, because you thought it was useless.

But, now you have seen how far it has gotten. You will just get in within a short time and you would be expecting the price to reach a really high price so that you will become rich immediately. The price won’t go up like that, it’s something that takes years for it to happen.

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March 10, 2022, 12:34:23 AM
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Last time I checked the Bitcoin network is still there working flawlessly.

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March 10, 2022, 01:47:01 AM
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How come Bitcoin has not come to save us yet.?
Why blame Bitcoin?
Dont rely alone on it. Often, things wont go the way you expected it to be thus you must have a plan B incase something went wrong. Its a good choice if you invest in Bitcoin but dont be impatient. Inflation is already there so do something to help yourself like getting more than one job.

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March 10, 2022, 09:20:48 AM
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It was never meant to save and rid the world of its problems. It was meant to safekeep your assets while the rest of the world goes to shit. It's doing just that currently, and it's holding on albeit the pressure from the world economy going to shit. That's the only thing that bitcoin can do, and the rest of the problem should be solved by world leaders coming to an agreement on how they should fix the economy. It might solve individual people's problems, but not the world as a whole.
I don’t get why some people use the word savior of the world for Bitcoin. That seems quite dumb to me, because that isn’t really what Bitcoin is all about. First of all Bitcoin is meant for making transactions, and the main purpose for creating it was just to have another type of currency that wouldn’t be controlled by the government, and would just be on its own, so that people can have privacy and as well have the freedom to do whatever they want to do with their assets or money.

As we may have it, Bitcoin happens to be also an asset that has a limited supply and keeps gaining value overtime. So the only way that it can save you is that you are investing now and having patience to benefit from it in the future. But if your plans are that it is going to help you right now, then you’re just lying to yourself.

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March 10, 2022, 01:08:34 PM
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So the case of Inflation has finally hit the world head on.
Bitcoin was supposed to be the solution to all of this.
How come Bitcoin has not come to save us yet.?

Why are we not being able to hedge against the inflation and prevent this from happening.

Inflation is very ugly, yet no one is doing anything about it.

why is that?
The level of inflation right now depends heavily on where you are and which fiat you're talking about. If it's very solid fiat like the USD, EUR and similar currencies, the inflation rate is at 6-8% from what I've seen. So it's above the 5% target, but not by much, and it's not a devastating increase by any means. So in that case there's very little sense in turning to Bitcoin to save the wealth because not much of it will be lost due to inflation and because Bitcoin can easily fall lower than this inflation rate. Then we have Russia, with restrictions of having USD and EUR, and ruble lost almost half of its value over a short period of time, and, by the way, Russian bank cards don't work in most countries anymore as well. In that case, Bitcoin might be the best savior from inflation because the risk of Bitcoin fluctuating downward is way lower that the almost certainty of being left with almost nothing if your savings are in ruble (and the majority of Russians keep savings in ruble).

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March 10, 2022, 01:33:36 PM
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So the case of Inflation has finally hit the world head on.
Bitcoin was supposed to be the solution to all of this.
How come Bitcoin has not come to save us yet.?

Why are we not being able to hedge against the inflation and prevent this from happening.

Inflation is very ugly, yet no one is doing anything about it.

why is that?

You say no one is doing anything about inflation but that’s just not true. I’m not entirely sure how countries besides the United States handle combating inflation but that US Federal Reserve buys and sells securities to try and help inflation as well as highering and lowering interest rates. So there are people trying to do something about it.

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March 10, 2022, 02:55:18 PM
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So the case of Inflation has finally hit the world head on.
Bitcoin was supposed to be the solution to all of this.
How come Bitcoin has not come to save us yet.?

You created a profile almost 5 years ago on the forum and still haven't figured out how Bitcoin could protect you from inflation? At the beginning of 2017 1 BTC was worth barely $1000, today it is worth almost 40 times more, and last year it was worth almost 70 times more. I could bet that in 5 years you will ask the same question when the price of 1 BTC is 5 or 10 times higher than today, but this is a problem you have to solve with yourself.

Seen from my perspective (and that of many other people) the thing works perfectly, of course if we look at it in the long run. Be on the side of the winners who invest in times when the markets are in the red, not those who do it in the middle of a bull run.

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March 10, 2022, 03:12:49 PM
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What do you mean ?
How is bitcoin not saving you from the inflation? How exactly? The price prediction of Bitcoin is still strong and at the same time it have exceeded its value as a whole, even in 2022, the price rose when the war began, considering the whole month, we have seen some ups and downs but at the same time, it's getting recognized around the world.
Russians and ukranians are both using bitcoins to tackle the situation right now. Inflation does not mean that bitcoins will protect us by not increasing in price! It does mean that it would continue to increase in value and maintain it overtime connecting the world around, helping people take international jobs as well so that they have an option away from the governmental controlled fiat and jobs.

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March 10, 2022, 03:54:13 PM
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So the case of Inflation has finally hit the world head on.
Bitcoin was supposed to be the solution to all of this.
How come Bitcoin has not come to save us yet.?

Why are we not being able to hedge against the inflation and prevent this from happening.

Inflation is very ugly, yet no one is doing anything about it.

why is that?

It just doesn't work that way. Of course you can hold bitcoin to fight against inflation and grow your wealth but not everyday is rainbow and sunshines.
Right now it's time to buy more coins and fill our bags so that we don't weep when the price are near an ATH.
We are having the opportunity to buy at lower prices right now. Making use of it while we can is the right approach to be followed.
We are still fighting against inflation by buying more during the dips. But if you just think about profits all the time then you are just speculating over growing your money.
While that's not a bad thing but blaming bitcoin right now for that it's just a stupid thing to do.

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March 10, 2022, 08:50:27 PM
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The level of inflation right now depends heavily on where you are and which fiat you're talking about. If it's very solid fiat like the USD, EUR and similar currencies, the inflation rate is at 6-8% from what I've seen. So it's above the 5% target, but not by much, and it's not a devastating increase by any means. So in that case there's very little sense in turning to Bitcoin to save the wealth because not much of it will be lost due to inflation and because Bitcoin can easily fall lower than this inflation rate. Then we have Russia, with restrictions of having USD and EUR, and ruble lost almost half of its value over a short period of time, and, by the way, Russian bank cards don't work in most countries anymore as well. In that case, Bitcoin might be the best savior from inflation because the risk of Bitcoin fluctuating downward is way lower that the almost certainty of being left with almost nothing if your savings are in ruble (and the majority of Russians keep savings in ruble).
I would guess that it also depends on the items and the job you are on. So if you are in trucking business (which has been already in trouble because of covid, and also truckers denying to work because of vax mandate) and the oil prices are higher, then you will be impacted harder. Even in the nations like USA or in Europe. However, if you are working in making burgers, that may not be impacted a lot, or selling tv's? Maybe not impacted a lot.

We have to remember that 5-10% inflation means some stuff went high a lot, like oil did, or healthcare did, but some things did not move too much at all. Sure on nations with 50%+ inflation, everything went up. But, 5-10% ones had one thing going up while the other one not so much.

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So the case of Inflation has finally hit the world head on.
Bitcoin was supposed to be the solution to all of this.
How come Bitcoin has not come to save us yet.?

Why are we not being able to hedge against the inflation and prevent this from happening.

Inflation is very ugly, yet no one is doing anything about it.

why is that?

Food , Gas, housing, energy basically everything is increasing in price.

So people that own bitcoins or altcoins , are selling to help cover the difference and not able to buy more crypto, because of less spare fiat money.

Odd that inflation is actually causing all crypto to decrease, but that is happening, and it may be the beginning of one of the worst crypto winters on record.

When it comes down to it, do you need to buy/hold bitcoin or feed the family.
Feed the family will always win if the person is sane.
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Well, as what you and others are expecting, it's the opposite, bitcoin still affected of the current world market especially in dollar and oil,  even though it is said to be inflation-proof. Although having bitcoin in long term will show how its said as against the inflation.
Indeed for now bitcoin has not been able to save us from inflation, but we must realize bitcoin is still in the development stage, and it still takes time for bitcoin to overcome all these problems, but now many Russian investors have turned to crypto, because of sanctions problems from various countries .
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March 11, 2022, 12:31:49 PM
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Yes it is very true that Bitcoin and even precious metals will not totally protect you against inflation.

Yes right now. Many people who are very "pay cheque to pay cheque" will be forced to sell off various crypto and any other investments in order to live.

Even some are in the situation of selling at a lower price then they bought into the market.

It is just how it is. No other way around it.

When it comes down to means of survival one will resort to many things and do what it takes.

Even if we had Bitcoin or Gold as the standard of many currency/money. The situation would be the same. People sell things when they need to survive. Simple math.

some people will have more resources/money then others/. It has always been that one.

The truth is, you will always have people falling through the cracks of poverty and other people will succeed and be just fine. You will always have people with lots of resources who are quite wealthy.

Always been that way since the beginning of time. No way around it. I doubt it would ever change.

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what do you want from bitcoin, inflation affects all sectors I think, and bitcoin is also affected by the exchange rate of $ and oil, anyway btc can not be used as collateral to help inflation I think, if you expect bitcoin to always go up I think it is impossible to be granted because bitcoin has a cycle, it doesn't always go up and fly
So if you want to invest stable and inflation-free try gold bullion, which is real and has little loss

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March 11, 2022, 03:39:36 PM
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Because bitcoin is very volatile and you can't save yourself from inflation here and now. Bitcoin is a long-term investment, and if you had bought it a few years ago, your money would be inflation-free now. I am more than sure that if you buy bitcoin right now, in three or four years the outcome will be the same. So if you think about the future, you should have bitcoin.

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First of all, as everyone says, Bitcoin was never touted as such. Only people like Robert Kiyosaki would say stuff like that (but they always change their mind later).

Then,,, you need to look up history of crypto projects that actually claimed to save from inflation and realize that there are more  dead than alive today. So many launched, so many claimed the same,,, and where are they now? Dead because zero utility.

Finally,,, inflation is a risk and a failure of mechanism. Gold buys more tomorrow than what it buys yesterday. The same as Bitcoin. They are not immune to inflation but over longterm they always are inflation proof.

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Well, as what you and others are expecting, it's the opposite, bitcoin still affected of the current world market especially in dollar and oil,  even though it is said to be inflation-proof. Although having bitcoin in long term will show how its said as against the inflation.
Indeed for now bitcoin has not been able to save us from inflation, but we must realize bitcoin is still in the development stage, and it still takes time for bitcoin to overcome all these problems, but now many Russian investors have turned to crypto, because of sanctions problems from various countries .
It is not in its development stage. The reason why it didn't "save" us is the fact that it moved from 6k in march 2020 to 40k right now, that is around 7 times higher, if people think that it is not saved, then I do not know what they are expecting from crypto.

Even higher than what we should have been because we had a huge hyped period. All in all Russians did helped the price to stay afloat a bit higher and doing fine right now. But, that should not be the reason why bitcoin is looking great right now, we should realize that it is not doing as well as you might imagine, but that doesn't change the fact that it has done amazingly so far.

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It has saved me from many financial problems, I don't know about you. But to say that it's going to be the solution for all, I don't think that's possible. Bitcoin alone cannot save an entire problems of each individual.

What we have to do is to keep on investing and holding it. I'm still doing my routine and I have no complains about it. If people just look at the current ride, you'll not appreciate how far bitcoin has gone by now.


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