Blame Game in gambling

[jostorres]

Well ultimately the one to blame would be the person involved themselves, the rest are just third parties with some degree of influence to the party involved, emphasis on the "some". Sure parents can actively involve themselves in educating their kid, but in the end, it would still be the kid themselves who would decide if he would do something or not. As I said in a previous thread before, influence can be long-lasting but at the same time, it could also be not. A person can choose what they  can be influenced on imo.

If only parents did a good thing to their kids, the kids will also do the same but as you said it cant be long-lasting, I think I can agree with that. It's not only our parents that we see around us so we can also get other/different kinds of influences including the bad ones.

You are right again that it's up to the person if he will follow the bad influence that he heard on the people around him or he will stay the same, following the right things that his people taught him before. Sometimes it's hard to monitor kids because they can be wiser than their parents. They can sneak gambling anytime and they can lie as well so their parents will have no idea what their kids are going through.

[bitbollo]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

We have to understand the role of modern society.
Maybe the parents were just working with a busy life like everyone with a basic job ?

Every industry should be regulated there isn't nothing to say more.
The industry can't regulate itself. It's clear that some rules should be added
In my country (EU- Italy) they have made illegal promo on tv for all betting service since there was an aggressive promotion all day long in all channels at all time.

[chaser15]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Then you are saying we should blame the parents? That's unacceptable. Not all the time our parents should be there to keep us monitored. And even if they did, do you actually believe they can monitor all our activities especially if we want to hide something?

A 16-year-old person should already have the knowledge and know the difference between do's and don't. I know they are in the stage of curiosity but blaming the parents because of what happened is totally out of the discussion.

Since it's already happened, the best thing to do is to help their son get to recover instead of doing a blaming game like what you are doing OP.

[Johnyz]

This is an unfortunate event to expose the underaged in gambling, they are really prone to addiction since they can’t still control their emotion correctly so I also believe that, their own family should be the first one to guide him and teach him about the pros and cons of gambling.

 That’s 16 years old is still under the same house of his parents, proper guidance is the key here and we should not blame anyone. This is the problem when there’s no KYC on a gambling site, Underaged can easily play on their system even if its not allowed.

[passwordnow]

The problem is that a lot of the times, the gambling industry gets a lot of flak for when things do go wrong.

And the blame as you said is disproportionately laid on the operators, who are simply providing a service, as compared to other factors like intrinsic motivation of the person themselves.

A casino should be compliant with all rules and regulations of the jurisdiction they reside in, including any sort of voluntary exclusion principles. But just with any service, there is room for abuse and unfortunately not all cases can be prevented.

I agree.
When there's an unfortunate situation like this happens, all the blame goes to the operators and casinos that anyone is free to enter and gamble. I don't blame anyone if the parents are thinking like that. They're protective and they know what's best for their children but as usual, this would always be the case for the casino. They're always the bad actors when someone struggles with addiction.

[Hamphser]

The blame game should only be on us, parents are to be blamed if they'll allow their children to gamble or if they have no idea their children are gambling. It's a matter of responsibility, we all know that gambling is risky, and gambling without understanding the risk will most likely result to a devastated life.

Blaming will not lead into a solution, there should be proper guidance from parents as well a proper monitoring from the hospital to update  the parents if the family seek medical helps. And a much stricter implementation of KYC in terms of age restrictions in gambling especially now that casinos are easily accessible via internet. Its a community that embodies the need to seek solution for every young gamblers who got their life wasted due to addiction.

Now that crypto market exist specially on gambling industry on which KYC isnt really that imposed or compulsory then this is where things becomes more easier for kids to play easily since it isnt really needing something like this.
Guidance from their guardians or parents would really be that needed because if you have told them and made them realized that gambling is bad specially if addiction do
comes which is important for them to know on.Blaming the parents wouldnt really be that right anytime because  there are kids which are stubborn.

[adzino]

Both are to be blamed. But the parents should have kept a better eye on their son. They should have known what he was doing or browsing on the internet. I bet the same parent would have been happy if their son made massive life changing profit. They would have never said anything against gambling in this case. Wouldn't be surprised if they said they are "proud" of their son. The gambling industry is to be blamed because they sometimes lure people into gambling by showing advertisements that are sometimes very misleading. Every gambling advertisements should come with  disclaimer stating the bad sides of gambling.

[Fatunad]

Both are to be blamed. But the parents should have kept a better eye on their son. They should have known what he was doing or browsing on the internet. I bet the same parent would have been happy if their son made massive life changing profit. They would have never said anything against gambling in this case. Wouldn't be surprised if they said they are "proud" of their son. The gambling industry is to be blamed because they sometimes lure people into gambling by showing advertisements that are sometimes very misleading. Every gambling advertisements should come with  disclaimer stating the bad sides of gambling.

You wouldnt seen any disclaimer when it comes to gambling advertisement which is something that very common or standard on which parenting would really play a great role on how you would
able to raise up your kids which is really out of those possible addiction gambling risks that might be experienced ahead. Parenting couldn't be perfect though because not all the times you would
able to monitor your children which there might be some small gap of window on which they could make dealings or involvement which might really becomes worst overtime.

[Uang_kartal]

actually it depends on the permission of each country to access any game, indeed this is intended for 18+, of course it is not allowed for those who are still small children because mentally they can't be held accountable both in terms of mindset and actions, this needs to be underlined by the company give rewards of any kind just to complete and enliven. this is only an option the company does not force to create an account and play for hours or longer than that. Like any game, you are free to choose it anytime in your spare time

[agustina2]

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Keep an eye on a 16-year-old son? It's almost close to legal age. I found it weird that parents will always follow their son's activities all the time during that age.

Don't blame the parents but even with how strict the parents are, you have no way to avoid gambling while growing up. Just take a look outside and there's a thing there that can introduce gambling. Even with just simple browsing on social media, you can encounter gambling.

If things are that easy where parents just have to monitor their 16-year old son and he will now be saved from doing gambling, then we shouldn't see the gambling problem nowadays. Blame ourselves for that.

[Darker45]

I don't think the child was already a gambling addict when he was still 16 or 17. But he must have already started to develop his love for betting at that very young age. It's unfortunate that his parents were not able to detect his interest in gambling. He should have been given sufficient reminder of its risk and danger.

Anyway, I don't think we can put the blame on a single party. We cannot entirely blame the victim here, his parents, the regulators, nor the gambling industry. It's not as if only one party has the responsibility. They all must have somehow contributed to the factors leading to the death of Jack.

[ralle14]

And a much stricter implementation of KYC in terms of age restrictions in gambling especially now that casinos are easily accessible via internet.

With so many ways to gamble nowadays, I doubt pushing KYC to most casinos would put a stop to this knowing others would just switch to another casino that offers fewer restrictions. IMO one of the better ways to handle it is by taking the initiative and do it yourself rather than relying on the rules as you can easily get tempted when you lack self control.

If things are that easy where parents just have to monitor their 16-year old son and he will now be saved from doing gambling, then we shouldn't see the gambling problem nowadays. Blame ourselves for that.

It's possible that certain gamblers can be saved by their family even though it's not guaranteed I still think that others would be encouraged to stop for good.

[michellee]

Most parents will blame someone else for making their child wrong without seeing it all and asking why it happened. If parents can monitor their children's activities properly, I am sure their children will not make fatal mistakes, let alone become addicted to gambling. The task of parents is very heavy in educating their children. Still, most parents nowadays, who are very concerned with social media status, have become less aware of their children's activities. I see some very busy parents prefer to buy something for their child and provide the facilities their child needs while they do not monitor the extent to which the facility is functioning well for their child.

It requires awareness from parents and children. Communication between them is needed so that parents and children can understand how to avoid actions that will turn into fatal mistakes. The point is that communication is rare between parents and children.

[jrrsparkles]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Modern day working parents actually don't have anytime to take care of their kids and with the help of internet kids learn bad things too faster than good thing, we can't actually blame anyone the kid even 16 years only still they're not babies they can know what is good and bad for them. Instead of finding the root cause we need to know how to recover that kid from addiction and its more easier as well than old adults if I am not wrong.

[Jawhead999]

actually it depends on the permission of each country to access any game, indeed this is intended for 18+, of course it is not allowed for those who are still small children

How can the casino know how old are you when you didn't even submitted your birth date or ID? Not to mention the boy can just submit fake birth date and using their parents ID. It's all depends on the player, in internet anything can be searched and they only offer it, so you need have own mindset to know which is good and bad for you.

However parents shouldn't really strict with their children because they wouldn't listen to you and will do anything behind you.

[bittraffic]

Times have changed. 20 years ago, kids are not trying to go out of their homes anymore but sticks thier faces in front of the monitor making them less experience in real life. Some of these kids can't tell something that affects their emotions and identify disorders anymore. It's up to parents to make them learn.

I can understand though that parents will find ways to look for someone to blame rather than themselves. Of course, they won't say it's their fault. But it's really the kid that has to overcome that problem out himself.

[Peanutswar]

People now are aware of the technology and the internet so most of their parents now are leaving their children at an early age within their gadgets and by that, they can self-aware about the things on the internet such as gambling, the role of the parents must restrict their children and guide them because sometimes they don't know what's really doing of their child imagine at a very young age get addicted to the online gambling it's not suitable at the very young age. Better to help their child than blame each other because its about the mental health of the child.

[acroman08]

Anyway, I don't think we can put the blame on a single party. We cannot entirely blame the victim here, his parents, the regulators, nor the gambling industry. It's not as if only one party has the responsibility. They all must have somehow contributed to the factors leading to the death of Jack.

I agree with this. we can't put blame on a single party. that being said, all of them should step up(parents, regulators, and the gambling industry) if they don't want another "jack" falling victim to gambling addiction. it is sad seeing a young man with a lot of years ahead of him ruin his life and future because of becoming addicted to gambling.

[Fortify]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

You're right that there is likely some other underlying cause that drives people to gamble and figuring this out is super important if the person is ever to be free. It's the same with most addictions, at least the the beginning, there will be a reason that someone got into it - might be peer pressure or simply wanting to do what friends do, it might be a "fun" experience at the start, it might alleviate the feeling of boredom, it might be the buzz from winning, maybe it reminds them of a childhood with parents or many other things. Unfortunately at that age the human brain is still learning and developing, so it can be affected more heavily than an older person - whatever institution allowed them to gamble or provided machines without age protection are definitely somewhat responsible.

[delfastTions]

People now are aware of the technology and the internet so most of their parents now are leaving their children at an early age within their gadgets and by that, they can self-aware about the things on the internet such as gambling, the role of the parents must restrict their children and guide them because sometimes they don't know what's really doing of their child imagine at a very young age get addicted to the online gambling it's not suitable at the very young age. Better to help their child than blame each other because its about the mental health of the child.

What you are talking about is certainly correct. 
However, life is not so easy to do.  The problem here is, firstly, that children learn the Internet and all the possibilities of using it very early.  And adults are often less versed in this matter.  And secondly, a child over the age of 13-14 generally stops obeying his parents and all adults.  Anyone who has raised children to adulthood knows how nasty and uncontrollable they become.  So it's hard to forbid them not to play online gambling. 
This is a rather difficult problem for all parents in the world.