Blame Game in gambling

[Hydrogen]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

They're labeling the gambling industry as predatory.

Being someone who follows the news, I remember a time when college university recruiters were approaching homeless people on the street offering to sign them up for government education loans. Of course, the homeless had little chance of benefiting from a college education. It was a predatory move made by universities to boost their profit margins. Today the united states has a student loan bubble as a result.

Its more typical to hear of similar stories in many industries today, than it is for these type of predatory practices to not exist.

And so I wonder if the gambling industry can singled out as being predatory, when the term may apply more broadly to our global standard.

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If you look at the factor after his child reaches 16, it is a decision that the child is already aware of. So don't completely blame the parents. But also the child must be responsible for what he takes regarding gambling. At the age of 16 and above, usually psychological development is always wanting to try new things. Meanwhile, the lack of parental supervision, the environment, and friends around also affect what the child does.

Identification of the environment and daily interactions will find a bright point that every parent gives freedom to children who have started to reach adulthood.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Let me also quote from this article that were posted.... “As the mental health charity Mind and others acknowledge, the reasons behind any suicide are ‘complex and can have lots of different causes’."

So, he might have had depression from other things that went wrong in his life and gambling was just one way to handle that. (Like people that turn to alcohol, when things go bad)

I can understand that the parents want to lash out at someone to shift the blame, but each individual case has it's own merit. How many old or lonely people gamble to stop them from going into depression? (They go to a casino to mingle and socialize with other people) 

People turn to gambling, as an outlet for their depression, it's actually the depression that causes it, and the depression manifested more when the person started losing more and cannot keep up with losing they do not know how to address losing like when they do not know how to address depression, depression kills and gambling is not a place to release your depression, you will suffer more.

Allow me to disagree with you mate, in as much as I believe that people reason or think differently, I still think that depression isn't actually the reason why people go into gambling and get addicted, it should be the other way round, too much gambling actually births depression.
Just imagine gambling for straight 30 days without a single win, thinking about all the money lost and better things one could have used the money for is enough reason for one to fall into really deep depression.

1. Talking about why people go into gambling, (not like to say gambling is a bad thing, but allowing oneself to get addicted is where it becomes a really big problem), most people I know were introduced into gambling by their friend(s) after seeing their friend(s) winning(s), but without properly managing the habit, they end up like those in my second point below 👇.

2. Others I know went into it out of curiosity and after loosing money many times, they continued playing in hopes of winning one day so as to recover all the money they've lost previously, but unfortunately, it sometimes doesn't work out that way.

3. Others went into gambling as a side hustle, but without properly watching the habit, most end up like those in my second point above 👆.

4. Others go into gambling out of depression for quick money or wealth, but unfortunately, if they dont control themselves, they still end up like the ones in my second point above 👆.

This are just the few reasons I can mention from all the reasons I know, I've never seen anyone go into gambling out of depression, depressed people end up doing drugs, alcohol, doing all sort of dangerous things to themselves, and in the worst case scenario, commit suicide, any thing that can get them high, something that can make them forget their present problems or condition, gambling does not make anyone forget their problems but rather, it adds to it because after playing, you have to worry and pray you win, and if eventually you don't win, you begin to worry and feel bad for the money you just lost and think of ways to get it back.

[Finestream]

Blame the parents who did not monitor and guide their kids. It's their responsibility to ensure that minors should stay away from gambling, you can't blame gambling because this industry has been here for centuries, and they are not here to destroy lives.

What destroy lives in gambling is irresponsible gambling, and sometimes irresponsible parents makes one.

[molsewid]

If you look at the factor after his child reaches 16, it is a decision that the child is already aware of. So don't completely blame the parents. But also the child must be responsible for what he takes regarding gambling. At the age of 16 and above, usually psychological development is always wanting to try new things. Meanwhile, the lack of parental supervision, the environment, and friends around also affect what the child does.

Identification of the environment and daily interactions will find a bright point that every parent gives freedom to children who have started to reach adulthood.

But so far if we will look back at the time where the parent's guardian is still needed by the child and they been able to monitor him at least close monitor they can control their child's action and can influence their child's decisions. I am not totally blaming the parents but I can say that they play a vital role in shaping their child's development, while also considering the influence of the child's environment, circle of friends, and others. This time, a 16 year old child being psychologically diagnosed as gambling addict needs a close monitor and help by the psychiatrist and of course with the cooperation of the child to be treated.

[swogerino]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

I completely agree,when parents are not careful to monitor all the activities of their children things can precipitate pretty quickly and these kind of scenarios can become common ones.I understand that some type of parents want to leave their children free to a certain point to inflict in their education the critical value that freedom has but not overdo it like in this case maybe.I am personally a new parent,have my 2 year old daughter and I always tend to leave her free and I will keep behaving the same even when she becomes a teenager of course being always there to guide her to the righteous things.I also partly blame the parents but the people with whom this person has as friends are also responsible for this.In the end this kind of the situations are always the most critical needing a lot of specialized help from different departments to make this person quit gambling and we all know how difficult is to do that once you become addicted to it.

[xSkylarx]

Let me also quote from this article that were posted.... “As the mental health charity Mind and others acknowledge, the reasons behind any suicide are ‘complex and can have lots of different causes’."

So, he might have had depression from other things that went wrong in his life and gambling was just one way to handle that. (Like people that turn to alcohol, when things go bad)

I can understand that the parents want to lash out at someone to shift the blame, but each individual case has it's own merit. How many old or lonely people gamble to stop them from going into depression? (They go to a casino to mingle and socialize with other people) 

People turn to gambling, as an outlet for their depression, it's actually the depression that causes it, and the depression manifested more when the person started losing more and cannot keep up with losing they do not know how to address losing like when they do not know how to address depression, depression kills and gambling is not a place to release your depression, you will suffer more.

That's correct; addiction to drugs or alcohol is comparable. I have a friend who suffers from depression and uses alcoholic beverages and going to casinos to get drunk, he comes from a wealthy family so money is not a concern for him, he spends a lot of money on both, but after his parents noticed it, they took him to the doctor, who determined that he had an depression and that he should be taking medications,  During this difficult time, I believe that parents should be the first to lend a shoulder, and I agree that gambling is not the answer; in fact, it only serves to exacerbate the problem.

[dbc23]

We can't be pouring the total blame on the parent. At 16 the teen is open to diverse source information and has full choice on which to follow but a close guidance from his parents would have saved the lad who knows. It's unfortunate he had no one to disclose the possible dangers of gambling addiction which he ended up been a big victim of.

We live in an era where information make children adamant and as long as the internet exist if parents fail to follow the trend they might lose control of their wards because this wards will always feel their parents are out of fashion and as such lack the right advice at the moment

[Cling18]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have been raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have been taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it negligence on parents' behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

As for me, parents have a huge part and negligence in what happened to their son. Yes, they might be too busy pursuing their duties and responsibility as parents but they should have enlightened their child as early as possible about the risks of gambling. They should have told him the possible things that might happen due to gambling addiction. It's hard to monitor kids 24/7 but we should also be aware of what they're doing. It might be hard but a 16-year-old boy still need to be guided  

[Questat]

The blame game should only be on us, parents are to be blamed if they'll allow their children to gamble or if they have no idea their children are gambling. It's a matter of responsibility, we all know that gambling is risky, and gambling without understanding the risk will most likely result to a devastated life.

[seoincorporation]

The blame game should only be on us, parents are to be blamed if they'll allow their children to gamble or if they have no idea their children are gambling. It's a matter of responsibility, we all know that gambling is risky, and gambling without understanding the risk will most likely result to a devastated life.

We can't blame the family or the game, it was all the factors together. We should ask ourselves what happen in his mind to take the suicidal decision and we can be sure it was more than 1 factor. We don't know about the Debts he had or how much was his total loss with gambling. But when someone takes a decision as this guy did, it's because things were really fucked up.

[acroman08]

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like I said before on the previous thread that was locked. "I agree with the parents regarding the inadequate gambling treatment and medicines but it is unfair to solely blame everything on it.". but solely blaming the parents is also unfair. a lot of factors could contribute as to why they weren't able to monitor their son's activity. also judging by the article it seems that did they seek help once knew about the problem.

[mrongoz_imut]

For all parent need controlling about your kids and exactly when your kids have know about internet site and know with cryptocurrency or have access with gambling site, let her your kids keep study and educate them with risk when start gambling because they can't loss everything. Before late better give education for our kids keep away from gambling site and ask them keep them on good moment for playing with their friend and give them more busy with studying than become kids gambler.

[fiulpro]

If the parents knew that he was getting addicted then they should have sought better options for him but it's highlighted in the text that they didn't have much choice in that section since the therapy and other medical options are not very effective. I do think this can vary country to country as well also based on the economic situation of every person who can afford the treatment or no.

First and foremost I do think instead of sliding it away one should consider taking care of the whole situation and educating the kids at a considerable age, which also means finding out the red flags and working according to them, making sure they know what it is and what they are doing. It's not just the fault of gambling industry but of the parents, the medical care available and ofc the guy who died as well.

[milewilda]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

You could blame them off or not because this is very situational because there are really instances that parenting isnt the issue because there are children which had been taught on the right way
but still ending up on avoiding it and goes on things due to some influence from other people like his classmates or what  which parenting could neither be effective or not but its ttue that
being monitored is part of responsible parenting but it wouldnt really be that 100% that you could able to avoid such instances because not all children will be having that kind of
behavior towards on how they do react on things.

[timerland]

The problem is that a lot of the times, the gambling industry gets a lot of flak for when things do go wrong.

And the blame as you said is disproportionately laid on the operators, who are simply providing a service, as compared to other factors like intrinsic motivation of the person themselves.

A casino should be compliant with all rules and regulations of the jurisdiction they reside in, including any sort of voluntary exclusion principles. But just with any service, there is room for abuse and unfortunately not all cases can be prevented.

[wildan88]

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Many similar situations have already arisen in the world. It is difficult to point to one culprit. Problem gamblers create a world for themselves, and also seem to handle it professionally to keep it as hidden as possible. You also want to give your child some confidence. And if no alarm bells are ringing, try and find out. Often the parents are also completely unfamiliar with online gambling, because it was much less popular in their time. It is difficult to understand someone who is a gambling addict if you are not sensitive to it yourself.

[Theones]

The blame game should only be on us, parents are to be blamed if they'll allow their children to gamble or if they have no idea their children are gambling. It's a matter of responsibility, we all know that gambling is risky, and gambling without understanding the risk will most likely result to a devastated life.

We can't blame the family or the game, it was all the factors together. We should ask ourselves what happen in his mind to take the suicidal decision and we can be sure it was more than 1 factor. We don't know about the Debts he had or how much was his total loss with gambling. But when someone takes a decision as this guy did, it's because things were really fucked up.

Very right. We cannot blame parents because their kid did something wrong. I dont think any parent would want their kid to do anything wrong, having said this parent are not alway seeing and keeping eye on their kids. The choices made by the kids are solely their own free will. One something is done wrong - blame game starts. The parents are already in trouble let's not make thing worse for them. And may God show us all the right path. Ameen

[sunsilk]

When the situation is too damn hard, you really can blame anyone that you see.

Very right. We cannot blame parents because their kid did something wrong. I dont think any parent would want their kid to do anything wrong, having said this parent are not alway seeing and keeping eye on their kids. The choices made by the kids are solely their own free will. One something is done wrong - blame game starts. The parents are already in trouble let's not make thing worse for them. And may God show us all the right path. Ameen

That's victim blaming and it's understandable why they're having that feeling. It's really a choice of free will and any choice being done by the kid, he's aware of the possible consequences that he might receive after gambling.

It's always gambling that has this result when people turns an event to something bad.

[uneng]

This was a tragedy. It's understandable parents blame the gambling industry, because they are too hurted by the death of their son and the so many years battling against addiction. These people aren't in emotional conditions to argue anything about this topic.

And sadly, the young man felt too guilty, shameful and hopeless for his addiction that he ended his own life.

It's hard to say how this could be avoided, because we don't really know how it was the relationship he had with parents, friends and the treatment he was having access to. The only known fact at this point is the pain the family is feeling for this tragedy.