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welcome everybody. Is this the right place to post a gambling site? I think so, ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) WoodieDice, gambling game with a simple idea. and different. Every bet is Provably Fair. What is WoodieDice? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It is a gambling game, High privacy and security. Suitable view, convenient for both phone and computer. What is the way to play?After creating an account, you can deposit TRX coin into your account. In the Bet Amount box you can choose the value to start gambling with, then click on BET. Meanwhile, A number will appear for you, and a number for Woodie These numbers are shown based on HASH on the Bitcoin network. With a tool to verify every bet (HASH) by third parties. As the following picture: https://i.ibb.co/2tQ6wn2/image.pngYou can start playing here: https://play.woodiein.com/https://play.woodiein.com/
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Not particularly well versed on RNGs, but I think that using Google's random number generator for a commercial gambling site is a questionable move, especially because players have no way of verifying their bets. Most of the gambling sites I've visited have their own RNG algorithm and tool for bet verification, and to be honest, this is the first time I've seen a dice game that uses a third-party RNG. But hey it's just me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 10, 2022, 03:45:35 PM |
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Not particularly well versed on RNGs, but I think that using Google's random number generator for a commercial gambling site is a questionable move, especially because players have no way of verifying their bets. Most of the gambling sites I've visited have their own RNG algorithm and tool for bet verification, and to be honest, this is the first time I've seen a dice game that uses a third-party RNG. But hey it's just me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) A check bet system will be available soon. All numbers are generated by Google's random number generator.
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March 10, 2022, 04:56:36 PM |
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This is one of the most active forum that also talks about gambling. There are lots of players here also, so this is one of the right place a casino can make announcement and introduce their business. It is also my first time hearing a gambling site using third party, specifically google RNG for the output of your dice. Why do you think people should play on your site other than dice sites that has a good reputation in the market?
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March 10, 2022, 05:04:19 PM |
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Not particularly well versed on RNGs, but I think that using Google's random number generator for a commercial gambling site is a questionable move, especially because players have no way of verifying their bets. Most of the gambling sites I've visited have their own RNG algorithm and tool for bet verification, and to be honest, this is the first time I've seen a dice game that uses a third-party RNG. But hey it's just me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) A check bet system will be available soon. All numbers are generated by Google's random number generator. How we can check its fairness if your game is based on Google's random number generator? AFAIK google's random number generator is not provably fair, I believe there is no way to check the fairness. I dont think it is a good start for you to use google's random number generator as you can generate the number as many as you can. How can we verify that you use the first generated number after we place the bet? Aside from the fairness issue, your website is not that attractive and how about your house edge?
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March 10, 2022, 07:14:53 PM |
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Not particularly well versed on RNGs, but I think that using Google's random number generator for a commercial gambling site is a questionable move, especially because players have no way of verifying their bets. Most of the gambling sites I've visited have their own RNG algorithm and tool for bet verification, and to be honest, this is the first time I've seen a dice game that uses a third-party RNG. But hey it's just me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Completely agree. OP should really invest in the necessary provably fair infrastructure. Using random.org or google to generate your outcomes is not a great look whatsoever. Is there any sort of proof that you actually have the funds to pay out a big win on some TRON address? You should probably also invest heavily into making your site look better and less like a high school project if you're serious about expansion.
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March 10, 2022, 07:32:09 PM |
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This is the first time I heard about a gambling site that use google's number generator. Even if it is random but I won't trust google's services like that number generator for example. Though the site didn't focus on bitcoin but I think that bitcoin should also be accepted but the main crypro that will be use on the site is tron since it is the network you use on the site. Check bitcarra where the coin they use is usdt but bitcoin could also be use to deposit and withdraw. Buy copper membership to make your ann thread more presentable and attractive. Good luck and welcome to Bitcointalk forum.
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March 10, 2022, 07:41:53 PM |
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Not particularly well versed on RNGs, but I think that using Google's random number generator for a commercial gambling site is a questionable move, especially because players have no way of verifying their bets. Most of the gambling sites I've visited have their own RNG algorithm and tool for bet verification, and to be honest, this is the first time I've seen a dice game that uses a third-party RNG. But hey it's just me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Completely agree. OP should really invest in the necessary provably fair infrastructure. Using random.org or google to generate your outcomes is not a great look whatsoever. Is there any sort of proof that you actually have the funds to pay out a big win on some TRON address? You should probably also invest heavily into making your site look better and less like a high school project if you're serious about expansion. The site design is indeed just a school project and having that tag line of "The first gambling platform of its kind(Since 2018)" dont know on what he mean about being first. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) This is TRX based and not Bitcoin so i dont see for it to be relevant on putting up their ANN thread on here.Also, Google number generator doesnt really look appealing on any angle just like on what been emphasized above.
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March 10, 2022, 07:44:52 PM |
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Not particularly well versed on RNGs, but I think that using Google's random number generator for a commercial gambling site is a questionable move, especially because players have no way of verifying their bets. Most of the gambling sites I've visited have their own RNG algorithm and tool for bet verification, and to be honest, this is the first time I've seen a dice game that uses a third-party RNG. But hey it's just me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) A check bet system will be available soon. All numbers are generated by Google's random number generator. How we can check its fairness if your game is based on Google's random number generator? AFAIK google's random number generator is not provably fair, I believe there is no way to check the fairness. I dont think it is a good start for you to use google's random number generator as you can generate the number as many as you can. How can we verify that you use the first generated number after we place the bet? Aside from the fairness issue, your website is not that attractive and how about your house edge? Google RNG is provides truly random result and no one can predict its result based on its code design, No doubt about that. The main concern here is if the Casino is really using google RNG in there website since there’s no way to verify this matter just by checking the website since its no an open source. The OP already promised that he will provide a ay to verify all bets on his next update so let’s wait for his update and give him a chance. For now this Casino should not be consider safe to play and also I’m sure no one will risk depositing money by just playing dice game since dice game is very common on all Casino.
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March 10, 2022, 07:59:45 PM |
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The site looks a bit simple at first glance, but that doesn't always have to be a negative. I think it is also advisable to gain the trust of the players, to display some more information about the site and/or the company behind it. I understand that in any case there is no license? Not a big disaster in itself, but that is something that many players look at with a new site.
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March 10, 2022, 08:19:57 PM |
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OP, I'm afraid I have to agree with what others have said before me. I don't believe using Google's random number generator for casino is a good idea. Not because it is a third party service or that it is far from perfect, but because it is impossible to audit. The performance of random number generators is always a tricky topic, but in a crypto casinos we have a provably fair solutions for randomness, so the chance of having an abuse in the implementation of such system is extremely low.
You can still use hashing algorithms if you want, but if RNG isn't provably fair then it is just an additional layer of randomness that you have to implement. My recommendation to you is to always use provably fair random number generators.
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March 10, 2022, 08:24:50 PM |
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I still can't know, how the work @OP gonna give verify of the result. Since Google is not giving you any seed or maybe hash ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) A lot of confusion in here for the provably-fair since they use third parties to the gambling site game, since they using google. People will think, they need to verified by google it self due it's about gambling topic some people just can't believe the result event the site give you a proof unless they have the same result with the google.
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March 10, 2022, 11:20:59 PM |
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Why did you create another thread when you already have an existing thread already this is cheating all the other casinos are following the rules of one casino one thread are you not aware of it, if you cannot follow simple rules how can people trust you? You are taking advantage if you are not aware of the forum rules better lock the other thread or get a penalty and lose your reputation.
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March 11, 2022, 12:00:19 AM |
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Is this the right place to post a gambling site? I think so, ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Not really, If only TRX, you should move this thread into Service Announcements (Altcoins) board. Because this is a gambling board where bitcoin is the main deposit. If you are serious, better to buy a copper member to the eligible picture post. but I will help you at this time. As the following picture:
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March 11, 2022, 01:01:47 AM |
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Not really, If only TRX, you should move this thread into Service Announcements (Altcoins) board. Because this is a gambling board where bitcoin is the main deposit. If he has no plan to include Bitcoin and they only allow Tron, it's better to move this thread in the service section although I doubt if he can promote this casino effectively if it is not posted in the casino section, I notice this casino already have two existing thread which is a violation of the forum rule, so many things are not right on this casino and how the admin behave I don't trust this casino.
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Bitinity
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How does the multiplier work? Is 2x is the only available multiplier as I do not see any way to change the multiplier or odds. But what makes me confuse is about the information in the Help Center page as below screenshot: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXjJrBMy.png&t=665&c=v2GyscBr9Ba79Q) The question is about multiplier but the answer is about the rolled number. Those are 2 different things and might be confusing for most people. It does not work as common dice game in the industry so it needs to be explained in more detail so player can understand the game first. All numbers are generated by Google's random number generator.
Which one is correct, you say here that numbers are generated by google's random number generator but on your Help Center page it tells me a different thing as you say there that all numbers are generated by Bitcoin Blockchain Hash. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLGMfSEA.png&t=665&c=qlQh_jEgXIBH6A)
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robelneo
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March 11, 2022, 05:06:13 AM |
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How does the multiplier work? Is 2x is the only available multiplier as I do not see any way to change the multiplier or odds. But what makes me confuse is about the information in the Help Center page as below screenshot: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXjJrBMy.png&t=665&c=v2GyscBr9Ba79Q) The question is about multiplier but the answer is about the rolled number. Those are 2 different things and might be confusing for most people. It does not work as common dice game in the industry so it needs to be explained in more detail so player can understand the game first. All numbers are generated by Google's random number generator.
Which one is correct, you say here that numbers are generated by google's random number generator but on your Help Center page it tells me a different thing as you say there that all numbers are generated by Bitcoin Blockchain Hash. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLGMfSEA.png&t=665&c=qlQh_jEgXIBH6A) Obviously, OP is not ready to launch his casino and does not how to promote a casino here in this forum things could have been easy if he has the experience and he reads the rules here or takes time to check how this forum works. I can't trust a developer who has not done his assignment everything depends on the preparation and the launching day you fail this and you fail your project and you will be back to the drawing board.
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March 11, 2022, 05:54:53 AM |
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Not really, If only TRX, you should move this thread into Service Announcements (Altcoins) board. Because this is a gambling board where bitcoin is the main deposit. They are a TRX only site as I can see from the information on the site. If they don't allow bitcoin to gamble with, they should move the thread. A question to OP- Why you have double thread here? You should first know the rules here if you are serious with your project and want to promote here. Every casino is allowed to have one announcement site here. You should delete or lock one of your threads.
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March 11, 2022, 08:04:21 AM |
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Obviously, OP is not ready to launch his casino and does not how to promote a casino here in this forum things could have been easy if he has the experience and he reads the rules here or takes time to check how this forum works. I can't trust a developer who has not done his assignment everything depends on the preparation and the launching day you fail this and you fail your project and you will be back to the drawing board. The OP obviously copied the entire help pages from Bustabit casino, but didn't bother to edit any key information. This level of laziness is entirely unprofessional and inexcusable for any project. Original source: https://www.bustabit.com/helpThese are just the mistakes that I could detect, there are probably more, but the point is that I was able to identify them within just a few seconds. source: play.woodiein.comI don't think the OP is serious about developing a good casino, he just wants to make a quick buck , and this is definitely not good for the business.
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Nobody should trust OP and his shady casino that is most likely a scam. Great job @FatFork on uncovering the plagiarism by WoodieDice from Bustabit. OP was also advertising a scam cloud mining company, but the post has been deleted. Here is the archive: https://ninjastic.space/post/59758640he claims the company has been operating since 2018, but it's barely a month old according to whois records 4 years on the market The company has been operating since 2018 awards. Legal entity registered in USA. View Certificate Domain: mineav.com Registrar: Hosting Concepts B.V. d/b/a Registrar.eu Registered On: 2022-03-03 Expires On: 2023-03-03 Updated On: 2022-03-03
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