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The problem is that whenever there is a movement from one of the early wallets prior to 2011, the rumor of Satoshi coins moving make the rounds in the media and we have seen that time and again. The fact is there were many users mining the coins during those period and it could be anyone who was holding them and never moved their coins to a new wallet.
The fact is, other than the genesis block and a few early block no one has any idea what are the wallet Satoshi was holding and there is no way to predict whether he kept on mining even after his disappearance from the forum or public space.
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March 12, 2022, 09:25:40 PM |
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For poeple who claim that one of the main advantages of Bitcoin is its pseudo-anonymity some Bitcoiners do have a really weird fetish of wanting to know who is the guy owning this and that, when has he bought the coins, where is he sending the money, does he plan on selling or not, full name, shoe size,] and favorite pizza.
Seriously, stop with these, what's your business with what other poeple do? Zero! So stop it!... Spot on! The world has always been populated with far too many folks that just LOVE to endlessly speculate on just about anything no matter how pointless it is...
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March 12, 2022, 09:42:30 PM |
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-snip I learnt one thing, that from every rumour, there's an element of truth. Could this truly be Satoshi's wallet?
An acquaintance of mine bought some bitcoins last 2016 but unfortunately, he lost his private key. As far as I know, he had saved the private key in his mail draft, but he lost access to that private key because he lost his mail password. But last year the price of Bitcoin skyrocketed, so he thought of his wallet and was able to recover the lost email address by contacting Gmail's support. Maybe such an incident has happened in this case also because holding for 11 years is a very difficult task. But whatever, I don't think it is Satoshi, because he has been able to hide his footprints very well.
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March 12, 2022, 11:22:26 PM |
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~ An acquaintance of mine bought some bitcoins last 2016 but unfortunately, he lost his private key. As far as I know, he had saved the private key in his mail draft, but he lost access to that private key because he lost his mail password.
But last year the price of Bitcoin skyrocketed, so he thought of his wallet and was able to recover the lost email address by contacting Gmail's support.
Maybe such an incident has happened in this case also because holding for 11 years is a very difficult task. But whatever, I don't think it is Satoshi, because he has been able to hide his footprints very well. It is possible that he lost his keys and now found out the private keys for the wallet, but the fact is there are a lot of users who mined during the initial days and never moved their coins and there is no need for them to move them as some of the moved from casual miners to serious miners and there is no need for them to use those wallets unless there is an emergency.
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March 12, 2022, 11:52:21 PM |
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For poeple who claim that one of the main advantages of Bitcoin is its pseudo-anonymity some Bitcoiners do have a really weird fetish of wanting to know who is the guy owning this and that, when has he bought the coins, where is he sending the money, does he plan on selling or not, full name, shoe size,] and favorite pizza.
Seriously, stop with these, what's your business with what other poeple do? Zero! So stop it!... Spot on! The world has always been populated with far too many folks that just LOVE to endlessly speculate on just about anything no matter how pointless it is... Well should we pretend let's say satoshi is died . And treat like those coins held in his wallet worth 44 billion dollar now would forever remain there untouchable. We might stop this endless & pointless speculation if we found a proof that satoshi are no longer in this world. So yeah let's pretend satoshi is died.
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March 13, 2022, 04:50:04 PM |
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We have all been expecting Satoshi to come back for many years now, is this Satoshi wallet or one of those many fund stories any time the is activities on a whale addresses the fact is Satoshi will never return. We just have to move on and let the search for Satoshi's identity be put to rest.
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March 14, 2022, 04:28:43 AM |
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The details of the dormant Bitcoin wallet was traced back to October of 2010 and since Satoshi Nakamoto was last active on bitcointalk.org in December of 2010, there is reason to believe that the Bitcoin wallet could be Satoshi's. Can you see how absurd is that reasoning? It is devoid of any logic. Where is the connection?
Anyway, I don't even believe this is a case of HODLing. I think this is simply a case of an old Bitcoin wallet finally recovered after many years.
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March 15, 2022, 08:19:40 PM |
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The details of the dormant Bitcoin wallet was traced back to October of 2010 and since Satoshi Nakamoto was last active on bitcointalk.org in December of 2010, there is reason to believe that the Bitcoin wallet could be Satoshi's. Can you see how absurd is that reasoning? It is devoid of any logic. Where is the connection?
Anyway, I don't even believe this is a case of HODLing. I think this is simply a case of an old Bitcoin wallet finally recovered after many years.
Yeah, the statement is not logical after all in 2010 with a small amount any one can stash a huge amount of Bitcoin, that Bitcoin is giving out for free just to create awareness for the new digital currency for it to gain activities some of those old Bitcoin holders are waking up their wallet now that their little investments in 2010 have turned to a fortune at the moment and will want to get active with the wallet any way no mentioning of any transactions on the wallet yet.
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I have followed the link of which OP is sharing the story, I have read it with interest to know the bitcoin wallet to which it refers. The link doesn't show it, I've kept looking on Twitter where the story originates and I find it. I have discovered that the address of the bitcoin wallet had 486 bitcoin and if it was active I think there has been an error. Send bitcoin from Unknown wallet https://blockstream.info/address/17QBWJCGV4QbQhLbhcS7d9yB2S7DPLf4N9 To Unknown wallet https://blockstream.info/address/1LdJ4nyxrJqNB1oyr76rYerb2KDZk9wAvo By the way the bitcoins are still in the last address. I have also used the blockchain explorer because I can see more details.
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March 16, 2022, 07:25:05 PM |
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The details of the dormant Bitcoin wallet was traced back to October of 2010 and since Satoshi Nakamoto was last active on bitcointalk.org in December of 2010, there is reason to believe that the Bitcoin wallet could be Satoshi's. Can you see how absurd is that reasoning? It is devoid of any logic. Where is the connection?
Anyway, I don't even believe this is a case of HODLing. I think this is simply a case of an old Bitcoin wallet finally recovered after many years.
They think it has a connection because the year are the same but this evidence was not enough. It will be more believable if satoshi posted the same wallet in the forum or on somewhere and he says that it was his own but I don't think he did it? what if satoshi prefer to be anonymous and he don't want to leave any trace. The owner of this wallet is very lucky if ever it was recovered after a long time because this makes him an instant millionaire but other than it, this can also be a case of hodling because I know that there are large companies that are holding btc for a long time now up until now. Companies like micro strategies and others. Common people cant hodl that long but why would they sell now when the price was not good as the last pump?
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~snip~
~snip~ The owner of this wallet is very lucky if ever it was recovered after a long time because this makes him an instant millionaire but other than it, this can also be a case of hodling because I know that there are large companies that are holding btc for a long time now up until now. Companies like micro strategies and others. Common people cant hodl that long but why would they sell now when the price was not good as the last pump? MicroStrategy is not a long time Bitcoin HODLer. It is somehow a late-comer, as a matter of fact. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the first time MicroStrategy bought Bitcoin was only in August of 2020, which means to say that it owns Bitcoin for only 1 year and several months. We will see how long it will keep its Bitcoin stash. I don't agree that common people can't HODL that long. I think the owner of this wallet is an ordinary person and not a company. But, again, this is most probably a case of recovery rather than HODLing.
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March 17, 2022, 09:36:23 PM |
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There's not enough evidence to claimed that stranger as Satoshi Nakamoto. the wallet address probably belong to miners or someone who was worthy enough but recently need for money, or someone finally found his key that was lost cause so many people hold such amount of bitcoin then. But This is an incomplete subject but even after lack of evidence, people like to linked a person with satoshi Nakamoto, that's ridiculous
Lots of reasons you could really throw something on this particular situation.Whether; -The wallet owner had found its keys recently(same as you said) -Something in need in financial -He sees this time is the best time to sell -He does simply needs money -He feels to sell those coins for long time This isnt enough to say that it was Satoshi.
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March 17, 2022, 09:39:07 PM |
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Could this truly be Satoshi's wallet?
I don't think it's satoshi's wallet, because I believe satoshi is dead and left no ability for others to access his wallet. What I do think is that many such old wallets exist from longtime users. They probably use their more recent wallet funds first in the event they need them, so a situation like this to me means that whoever owns it is likely out of newer Bitcoin and is having to tap his long held funds for use. Maybe this means someone is cashing out bigtime for something, or maybe it means they've lost faith. Nobody really can say. I do think that most likely it's just someone who has held Bitcoin long enough and is ready to have some fun with their funds. Nobody lives forever, so holding forever is illogical.
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March 18, 2022, 01:31:11 AM |
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The details of the dormant Bitcoin wallet was traced back to October of 2010 and since Satoshi Nakamoto was last active on bitcointalk.org in December of 2010, there is reason to believe that the Bitcoin wallet could be Satoshi's. Can you see how absurd is that reasoning? It is devoid of any logic. Where is the connection?
Anyway, I don't even believe this is a case of HODLing. I think this is simply a case of an old Bitcoin wallet finally recovered after many years.
It is most likely true as you said that it is indeed an old wallet that is now reopened. But the question is if it is a matter of holding is it possible that they have that many bitcoin holdings other than Satoshi Nakamoto's? Of course, Satoshi wasn't the only person mining in 2010. As a matter of fact, in that year alone millions of Bitcoin were already mined. The block reward was 50 BTC. The difficulty rate was low. A decent CPU is enough to earn a hundred Bitcoin a day. So it wasn't a hard thing to do. Lowly miners in 2010 should have acquired at least thousands of Bitcoin. So there must be a lot of whales from that period. But there's probably no other person who has as many Bitcoin as Satoshi.
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(....) I learnt one thing, that from every rumour, there's an element of truth. Could this truly be Satoshi's wallet? I am more positive for this theory because if it will be me, I will have a transaction within 11 years especially when the owner of that wallet is really active on the internet. I believe that yeah, it's like long-lost private keys and gained access. I am wondering if the owner of those Bitcoin will start taking profits after a long period of time, very worth the wait.
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Why don't people stop speculating about SATOSHI connected thing? there are many people who bought Bitcoin in the past and lose their phrases or keys for long time and luckily find it recently and sold their coins in bulk what is the problem for that? i even had a friend that has bought bitcoin in 2012 and lose access from His wallet and just find it again back in 2018 and decided to sell those 12 Bitcoin? and besides this is the benefits of Bitcoin for long term that you can just simply sell them when you decide when .
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Could this truly be Satoshi's wallet?
Sounds to me like someone remembered a forgotten laptop. Wouldn't surprise me if satoshi transferred some of his btc one day but with so many other potential individuals it is highly unlikely that any specific event was satoshi.
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March 23, 2022, 04:47:54 AM |
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Could this truly be Satoshi's wallet?
Sounds to me like someone remembered a forgotten laptop. Wouldn't surprise me if satoshi transferred some of his btc one day but with so many other potential individuals it is highly unlikely that any specific event was satoshi. There is a similar post about that mate recently when a Loss account had been found in Old Laptop containing really a good amount of bitcoin , or maybe this is the story behind this post? i can't dig the thread but surely i come across this . and also If Satoshi would move coins? surely we will notice because the 1 million Bitcoin In his wallet will alarmed the authority if being claimed .
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March 23, 2022, 07:32:59 AM |
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Could this truly be Satoshi's wallet?
Sounds to me like someone remembered a forgotten laptop. Wouldn't surprise me if satoshi transferred some of his btc one day but with so many other potential individuals it is highly unlikely that any specific event was satoshi. There is a similar post about that mate recently when a Loss account had been found in Old Laptop containing really a good amount of bitcoin , or maybe this is the story behind this post? i can't dig the thread but surely i come across this . and also If Satoshi would move coins? surely we will notice because the 1 million Bitcoin In his wallet will alarmed the authority if being claimed . Satoshi's own name no one knows the truth, and who he really is. I think this case is more likely to someone who is lucky like getting an unexpected fortune. especially with the current KYC it will make it easier for the authorities to investigate so that it will be known who the real owner is, and I don't think satoshi wants that to happen
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March 23, 2022, 08:04:02 AM |
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The details of the dormant Bitcoin wallet was traced back to October of 2010 and since Satoshi Nakamoto was last active on bitcointalk.org in December of 2010, there is reason to believe that the Bitcoin wallet could be Satoshi's. Can you see how absurd is that reasoning? It is devoid of any logic. Where is the connection?
Anyway, I don't even believe this is a case of HODLing. I think this is simply a case of an old Bitcoin wallet finally recovered after many years.
It is most likely true as you said that it is indeed an old wallet that is now reopened. But the question is if it is a matter of holding is it possible that they have that many bitcoin holdings other than Satoshi Nakamoto's? Anything is possible, it can be an old wallet that the hodler suddenly decided to move it or it's an old forgotten wallet that has been recovered recently after a decade and etc. We can continue to guess and speculate on it but in the end we can't be so certain that it was SN who have moved these bitcoins because they were also miners aside from the Founder. If indeed it's Satoshi Nakamoto, let him/her be because he/she deserves it and it is really none of our business.
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