DUELBITS.COM STOLE 545$ FROM ME PROOF

[ufaiz50]

Agreed. This is a protocol that any gambling site would most likely do as well. We cannot really fight about this with the casinos because they have some grounds to do such because of some wavering signs of laundering act regarding this same situations. Maybe, OP wasn’t able to fully grasp why this has happened and it had to become this way for him when he deposited and wanted to withdraw after.

[mdzahed134]

it's really sad to see posts created like this without a clear intention  , OP does not even provide complete details of the case and also proofs before posting similar like this considering that he is fighting against one of the most popular and fastest growing gambling site here in crypto community and the sad part is that the claims stands only for small amount of money considering that there are no case filed against Duelbits for years that has this kind of amount.
hoping that there will be clarification about this in the nearest time because this is not good in both party .

Because he/she has no strong proof against Duelbits, and even i heard first time a claim about this gambling site, because i'm was regular user in this platform, and i never faced any issue to deposit/withdrawals. Yeah, it's unbelievable that duelbits will do this scam for such small amount of money if considering the biggest gambling site.

[qwertyup23]

it's really sad to see posts created like this without a clear intention  , OP does not even provide complete details of the case and also proofs before posting similar like this considering that he is fighting against one of the most popular and fastest growing gambling site here in crypto community and the sad part is that the claims stands only for small amount of money considering that there are no case filed against Duelbits for years that has this kind of amount.
hoping that there will be clarification about this in the nearest time because this is not good in both party .

Because he/she has no strong proof against Duelbits, and even i heard first time a claim about this gambling site, because i'm was regular user in this platform, and i never faced any issue to deposit/withdrawals. Yeah, it's unbelievable that duelbits will do this scam for such small amount of money if considering the biggest gambling site.

Duelbits is a gambling website that has been slowly creating its reputation on the gambling sphere. Fortunately, it also has an active campaign signature (where I am currently participating with) in which they give consistent payments weekly.

In your issue OP, I highly doubt that the team of Duelbits would do something so trivial as to cause the years of their efforts attempting to establish themselves as one of the leading gambling websites, to be put to waste. If you have any questions or problems, I also suggest that you reach to their customer service and ask for an explanation.

You may also want to create a thread under the "scam accusation board" if you feel that you have substantial proof against Duelbits. Again, what you are experiencing is very unfortunate but I do hope that it gets fixed quickly.

[Silberman]

You followed what they've told you to bet and then you lose. They've given you instructions so that you won't be against their rules. There have been several accusations not just on them but with other legitimate and reputable casinos that had tried to twist the story. And upon betting, you lose your money.
You gambled and that's the other way around when you bet on it and you just can't say that they are scams because you lose. Next time before you gamble, make sure that you're willing to lose because that's what gambling life is.

At least to me it seems as if the one that started this thread did not really read the TOS of the casino in which they were playing, almost any casino these days has a wagering requirement in order to prevent hackers and scammers for laundering their money with them and using them as mixers by depositing suspicious coins and then withdrawing clean coins, so the support just pointed out this to him and then once he wagered his money he lost it, and now he is arguing this casino is a scam when this does not seems to be the case.

[RILWAN]

Most players who make such accusations fail to follow the term and conditions of the casino because looking closely and understanding the ops point it all ball down to the fact that the ops made a mistake and lose the money during the bet.

[mak013]

I don`t see scam here. The support correctly tell what the OP has to do. The often problem is that the user doesn`t read ToS and starts arguing after the problem appears. If i understand correctly, in this situation looks like the OP deposited money and decided to withdraw it without betting. In cryptocurrencies it looks like using casino as mixer, and support answered the same. The best way was to make 1-2 bets and withdraw without any problems.

[redsun114]

Now, I am not saying OP is trying to launder the money that he deposited.. he might simply have done this... without any intention to launder any money... but the reaction to this kind of action is the same. (Most casinos will allow you to withdraw, once you wagered some of that money.... win or lose, they will give you your money) 

As far as I know, gambling sites are not like this before. They are not strict when it comes to withdrawals and deposits but now that cryptos are more into regulation (at least to the extend what I feel), they are now requiring documents and the reason why it's now being regulated is because cryptos are now popular therefore the scams and other criminal/illegal activities have also gone through the roof.

OP may not be a launderer, I guess, because he said he was playing already before on that casino. (For the people that doesn't want to risk anything, they shouldn't use a gambling site but they should have use a real coin mixing services).

[Erdogan]

I have the impression that more and more casinos have their own trolls who, like maniacs, try to accuse of scam when they themselves do not comply with the terms of the rules.
Of course that in this case it would be enough to do 1x wagering and there would be no problem with withdrawal. As for limits, it is also stated in (probably) every ToS that the casino can set them individually.
We must read the rules carefully to avoid such misunderstandings. Unfortunately, when someone does not do it, and their complaint is considered negatively, then they unload their frustration by spamming the forum with this type of accusations.

[btc78]

Now, I am not saying OP is trying to launder the money that he deposited.. he might simply have done this... without any intention to launder any money... but the reaction to this kind of action is the same. (Most casinos will allow you to withdraw, once you wagered some of that money.... win or lose, they will give you your money) 

As far as I know, gambling sites are not like this before. They are not strict when it comes to withdrawals and deposits but now that cryptos are more into regulation (at least to the extend what I feel), they are now requiring documents and the reason why it's now being regulated is because cryptos are now popular therefore the scams and other criminal/illegal activities have also gone through the roof.

because  gambling sites are being abused by people who's only wanted is to take advantage of the availability of the casino sites to use as Mixing site , they will send funds and then withdraw with other wallet so they can hide their transactions .

OP may not be a launderer, I guess, because he said he was playing already before on that casino. (For the people that doesn't want to risk anything, they shouldn't use a gambling site but they should have use a real coin mixing services).

If OP does not mean Laundering then why deposit a funds and tries to withdraw without even playing? that attitude is already questionable , and also not because he told us that he played in the past is indeed we must believe in , remember that in desperation he will say everything to make the gambling site looks guilty .

[Silberman]

Now, I am not saying OP is trying to launder the money that he deposited.. he might simply have done this... without any intention to launder any money... but the reaction to this kind of action is the same. (Most casinos will allow you to withdraw, once you wagered some of that money.... win or lose, they will give you your money) 

As far as I know, gambling sites are not like this before. They are not strict when it comes to withdrawals and deposits but now that cryptos are more into regulation (at least to the extend what I feel), they are now requiring documents and the reason why it's now being regulated is because cryptos are now popular therefore the scams and other criminal/illegal activities have also gone through the roof.

OP may not be a launderer, I guess, because he said he was playing already before on that casino. (For the people that doesn't want to risk anything, they shouldn't use a gambling site but they should have use a real coin mixing services).

Industries change and adapt to the circumstances in which they work, I remember the days as well in which you could withdraw your money without any wager requirements, but hackers and scammers kept using casinos as a way to launder their coins, I think that even without regulations casinos would have at some point taken the same measures, as it would have been exasperating for them to be used by people they knew were criminals and that will not stop unless they did something.

[bitgov]

Now, I am not saying OP is trying to launder the money that he deposited.. he might simply have done this... without any intention to launder any money... but the reaction to this kind of action is the same. (Most casinos will allow you to withdraw, once you wagered some of that money.... win or lose, they will give you your money) 

As far as I know, gambling sites are not like this before. They are not strict when it comes to withdrawals and deposits but now that cryptos are more into regulation (at least to the extend what I feel), they are now requiring documents and the reason why it's now being regulated is because cryptos are now popular therefore the scams and other criminal/illegal activities have also gone through the roof.

OP may not be a launderer, I guess, because he said he was playing already before on that casino. (For the people that doesn't want to risk anything, they shouldn't use a gambling site but they should have use a real coin mixing services).

Industries change and adapt to the circumstances in which they work, I remember the days as well in which you could withdraw your money without any wager requirements, but hackers and scammers kept using casinos as a way to launder their coins, I think that even without regulations casinos would have at some point taken the same measures, as it would have been exasperating for them to be used by people they knew were criminals and that will not stop unless they did something.

Because this is how the first cryptocurrency casinos worked. They were completely anonymous and it was a wild west for money laundering. If the casino still wants to remain anonymous but avoid problems with the law, it must at least take the minimum of security steps which in this case are 1x wagering. As for me, it's completely justified and I don't see any scam here.

[South Park]

Agreed. This is a protocol that any gambling site would most likely do as well. We cannot really fight about this with the casinos because they have some grounds to do such because of some wavering signs of laundering act regarding this same situations. Maybe, OP wasn’t able to fully grasp why this has happened and it had to become this way for him when he deposited and wanted to withdraw after.

It is that simple, casino owners can implement any policy they may like as it is their right, however I do not see this policy as being abusive or anything like that, years ago when those policies did not existed malicious people took advantage of the casinos and then they had to deal with the aftermath, so they decided to implement something like this in order to protect themselves, now I understand that this can be bothersome for some users but I do not think we can expect casinos to forfeit wager requirements anytime soon.

[Haunebu]

This is a classic case of not following the rules properly and blaming the casino for your own mistakes. Op could have easily acquired his money by wagering it all by x1 using strategies that involve minimal risk.

Some examples are betting on both the banker and player in Baccarat(Small commission on banker), 1.01 dice betting etc. He clearly needs to improve his brain-power.

[Fortify]

Hello

I have final proof this site is complete scam.

I made a deposit for 544 usd to bet to place a bet on a spefic sports game.

They blocked my bet so i tried to withdrawal and they blocked my withdrawal and said if I did not bet they would take my money because it was against they policy.

Then said I said if  they raise my limits i would love to bet and told them i wanted to bet  and then they said we lowed you limits on purpose and we wont raise it.

So they forced me to bet to or they would steal my money and not let me withdrawal.

Very simple they are a scam.

And they say its against there policy but its not in there TOS.

They just want to force me play till i loose. They never say how much i need to bet it just up to them.

I have placed plenty of bet on the site. Is not close to coin mixing . I had won some in past so they wanted to foce me to loose and steal my money.,

After being forced to bet i lost and now i am out 544 usd because they scammed me.

If we are to look at the "facts" objectively and how you have presented supposed proof of wrongdoing by Duelbits, then you have not satisfied even basic requirements. If you were to present the information in this thread in front of a judge in a court of law, you would get thrown out because you only offer conjecture and the screenshots you seem to think constitute proof do not tell us any such thing. Those screenshots show a deposit and a refund, along with a chat conversation log stating that you're using some sort of promotion that makes it against the rules to withdraw - now if you didn't understand the terms of a promo that is one thing you'll have to learn, they are commonly used as hooks but that is because they come with all sorts of restrictions - that seems to be the issue here.

[magneto]

I actually would agree with OP that this is not best practice for a casino.

Do I think that OP should have been more careful before depositing to see the appropriate limits that are applicable? Yes.

But at the same time I think that Duelbits should have considered OP's case separately. This is not a huge amount that OP is depositing, and it was clear that he is only wanting to bet on a specific event. So why force him?

[Odusko]

i am creating in the relevant forums so as many people know about said scam


as you have litelly nothing to sayo on the acutal topic i find it likley you are trying to post your sig or are duelbits shill


as so if anyone is a spammer its you

Well, you don't need to go into banter with any user just make sure to post the necessary evidence to see if duelbit truly committed that fraud against your account, and avoid posting your case on different topics just to get the attention you can as well use this thread and keep updating as the case goes. I hope duelbit will do something positive with your account they are among the most reputable casinos on this forum and their representatives here are active.

[timerland]

I don't think that this is a valid case at all.

OP, you are essentially saying that you haven't read their Terms of Service before depositing funds.

For casinos, they need to ensure that people aren't using them to launder money or to use them as a wallet (because their wallet infrastructure costs them money). So it does make sense for them to ban you from withdrawing if you haven't done anything on their platform. You should have researched the limits before you deposited.

[DoublerHunter]

This is a classic case of not following the rules properly and blaming the casino for your own mistakes. Op could have easily acquired his money by wagering it all by x1 using strategies that involve minimal risk.

Some examples are betting on both the banker and player in Baccarat(Small commission on banker), 1.01 dice betting etc. He clearly needs to improve his brain-power.

^ That was what I am thinking too, how OP ended up losing all of his money, the requirement is just to have a minimal wager before OP can execute withdrawal but unfortunately, it is losing all the balance left. You can play your money even how small it is and meet the requirements of the wagering policy and probably you will enjoy and don't have control and it is ended up losing his all money. I understand the casino rule and as a gambler, we should practice reading first the TOS before proceeding with it.

[perla]

It is quite normal that you have to make a wager when you have made a deposit on a gambling site. I'm sure Duelbits really isn't going to scam people. They have a huge budget for their campaign and promotions, signature campaign has also been active since they have been on the forum. If we summarize the story, the op has gambled his money, without being forced to do so. There's little you can do about that. Maybe other casinos would have handled it differently, but that's irrelevant.

[nakamura12]

I don't think that this is a valid case at all.

OP, you are essentially saying that you haven't read their Terms of Service before depositing funds.

For casinos, they need to ensure that people aren't using them to launder money or to use them as a wallet (because their wallet infrastructure costs them money). So it does make sense for them to ban you from withdrawing if you haven't done anything on their platform. You should have researched the limits before you deposited.

Even if op did read their terms of service or terms and conditions something like that then op would still receive same response in other gambling sites. As what Kakmakr said, the act of depositing any amount and then withdraw is an act of money laundering even if you are the only one who had access to the account. Why?. Most gambling sites have this terms and conditions or privacy and policy to prevent gamblers to use their gambling site as a way to launder money. In my opinion, even though the gambling site have rules like that but it still could be use in laundering money though I haven't heard any news or witnessing it myself.