DUELBITS.COM STOLE 545$ FROM ME PROOF

[aioc]

This is a classic case of not following the rules properly and blaming the casino for your own mistakes. Op could have easily acquired his money by wagering it all by x1 using strategies that involve minimal risk.

Some examples are betting on both the banker and player in Baccarat(Small commission on banker), 1.01 dice betting etc. He clearly needs to improve his brain-power.

^ That was what I am thinking too, how OP ended up losing all of his money, the requirement is just to have a minimal wager before OP can execute withdrawal but unfortunately, it is losing all the balance left. You can play your money even how small it is and meet the requirements of the wagering policy and probably you will enjoy and don't have control and it is ended up losing his all money. I understand the casino rule and as a gambler, we should practice reading first the TOS before proceeding with it.

Is he doing this to other casinos and getting away from it, or he is just a complete newbie we are all saying that there is something wrong with your behavior, you are not going to join and deposit in a casino and withdraw without a wage you cannot justify your complaint with your action, all casino requires a wage so this is a lesson learned for you don't gamble if you are ignorant on how a casino works it will backfire, this is a lesson for newbies who don't understand how casinos works.

[jossiel]

It is quite normal that you have to make a wager when you have made a deposit on a gambling site. I'm sure Duelbits really isn't going to scam people. They have a huge budget for their campaign and promotions, signature campaign has also been active since they have been on the forum. If we summarize the story, the op has gambled his money, without being forced to do so. There's little you can do about that. Maybe other casinos would have handled it differently, but that's irrelevant.

With those things that you've mentioned, it only proves that they're a serious company and doing a serious business.

Well, some things like this are always existing when they don't end up with a good result as they gamble. There could be other the same stories that when someone can't just accept what has happened despite all legal processes has been made within the platform.

And that's why they tend to make some excuses and blames the casino because it's hard to accept defeat and asks the sympathy of those people where they're telling their story that has been combined with twisted statement.

[Naficopa]

And I would like to know why someone make a deposit in casino if he don't want to play in it?

I doubt that anyone would make such a deposit by mistake, and even if they changed their mind after making the deposit and did not want to take the risk of gambling, they should understand that it is their mistake and in order to withdraw money without any problems, you must follow the TOS rules.

[acroman08]

And I would like to know why someone make a deposit in casino if he don't want to play in it?

the OP wanted to place a bet but it was blocked by the casino. I don't know what reason why his bet was blocked since he never explained it.

I doubt that anyone would make such a deposit by mistake, and even if they changed their mind after making the deposit and did not want to take the risk of gambling, they should understand that it is their mistake and in order to withdraw money without any problems, you must follow the TOS rules.

the deposit was not a mistake. the OP has the intention of gambling on the website but when his bet was blocked, he decided to withdraw which also got blocked because of the wagering requirements. anyway, no scamming happened, the OP is angry because he didn't get what he wanted.

[mak013]

And I would like to know why someone make a deposit in casino if he don't want to play in it?

the OP wanted to place a bet but it was blocked by the casino. I don't know what reason why his bet was blocked since he never explained it.

I doubt that anyone would make such a deposit by mistake, and even if they changed their mind after making the deposit and did not want to take the risk of gambling, they should understand that it is their mistake and in order to withdraw money without any problems, you must follow the TOS rules.

the deposit was not a mistake. the OP has the intention of gambling on the website but when his bet was blocked, he decided to withdraw which also got blocked because of the wagering requirements. anyway, no scamming happened, the OP is angry because he didn't get what he wanted.

As i see, the OP tried to bet but the limits were too low for him. I think that this is the OP mistake that he didn`t make a research before deposit. And after the bet was blocked his withdrawal was blocked as mixing. I think that he ought to make 1-2 bets on other games, even if he don`t want it and after that to withdraw.

[btc78]

It is quite normal that you have to make a wager when you have made a deposit on a gambling site. I'm sure Duelbits really isn't going to scam people. They have a huge budget for their campaign and promotions, signature campaign has also been active since they have been on the forum. If we summarize the story, the op has gambled his money, without being forced to do so. There's little you can do about that. Maybe other casinos would have handled it differently, but that's irrelevant.

With those things that you've mentioned, it only proves that they're a serious company and doing a serious business.

Duelbits.com is advertising here and forum and conducting multiple events and this is the first time we heard an scam accusation , and also with cheap claims , I'm not sure that this really have a good proof to provide.

Well, some things like this are always existing when they don't end up with a good result as they gamble. There could be other the same stories that when someone can't just accept what has happened despite all legal processes has been made within the platform.

Good point , with a casino that as completely good reputation and this is the first stone that had been thrown to them? seemingly not constant.

And that's why they tend to make some excuses and blames the casino because it's hard to accept defeat and asks the sympathy of those people where they're telling their story that has been combined with twisted statement.

This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.

[sovie]

This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.

Also, I have the impression that it is not a coincidence that someone is spamming the forum with accusations in this way. After all, it is easy to understand that it is enough to do 1x wagering to safely withdraw money. If it's done smart, it can be done with really minimal risk. In this case, it seems the OP didn't even want to try. I would not like to accuse, because there is no evidence of it, but for me such behavior is very suspicious.

[Distinctin]

This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.

Also, I have the impression that it is not a coincidence that someone is spamming the forum with accusations in this way. After all, it is easy to understand that it is enough to do 1x wagering to safely withdraw money. If it's done smart, it can be done with really minimal risk. In this case, it seems the OP didn't even want to try. I would not like to accuse, because there is no evidence of it, but for me such behavior is very suspicious.

If the casino will try to scam, they will go for a bigger amount, not a 545 USD only. Anyway, I am a bit confuse why this thread has not move to the scam accusation board, probably because OP's evidence is not sufficient enough?

[sovie]

This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.

Also, I have the impression that it is not a coincidence that someone is spamming the forum with accusations in this way. After all, it is easy to understand that it is enough to do 1x wagering to safely withdraw money. If it's done smart, it can be done with really minimal risk. In this case, it seems the OP didn't even want to try. I would not like to accuse, because there is no evidence of it, but for me such behavior is very suspicious.

If the casino will try to scam, they will go for a bigger amount, not a 545 USD only. Anyway, I am a bit confuse why this thread has not move to the scam accusation board, probably because OP's evidence is not sufficient enough?

OP has already created a thread on the same topic in the accusation section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386203.0
He created similar threads in a few other places. Therefore, I think that this is a strange behavior, because instead of trying to clarify this case and withdraw money, it all looks as if he cares most about slandering the name of DUELBITS.COM. It is possible that someone just wants to damage the image of Duelbits.

[rodskee]

Hello

I have final proof this site is complete scam.

I made a deposit for 544 usd to bet to place a bet on a spefic sports game.

They blocked my bet so i tried to withdrawal and they blocked my withdrawal and said if I did not bet they would take my money because it was against they policy.

Then said I said if  they raise my limits i would love to bet and told them i wanted to bet  and then they said we lowed you limits on purpose and we wont raise it.

So they forced me to bet to or they would steal my money and not let me withdrawal.

Very simple they are a scam.

And they say its against there policy but its not in there TOS.

They just want to force me play till i loose. They never say how much i need to bet it just up to them.

I have placed plenty of bet on the site. Is not close to coin mixing . I had won some in past so they wanted to foce me to loose and steal my money.,

After being forced to bet i lost and now i am out 544 usd because they scammed me.



PROOF

CHAT LOGS AND ME TRYING TO WITHDRAWL AND THEM BLOCKING .


https://imgur.com/a/3bZPR9m

So after Duelbits  stole your 545 dollars as what you completely claimed in your 12 posts since your account creation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3448104;sa=showPosts

why now that you are missing in action here in forum? after claiming those words that they have stolen your money now you just gave up like that?

or maybe there are some posts here that taken your main intention and brings here so you gave up?

[Distinctin]

This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.

Also, I have the impression that it is not a coincidence that someone is spamming the forum with accusations in this way. After all, it is easy to understand that it is enough to do 1x wagering to safely withdraw money. If it's done smart, it can be done with really minimal risk. In this case, it seems the OP didn't even want to try. I would not like to accuse, because there is no evidence of it, but for me such behavior is very suspicious.

If the casino will try to scam, they will go for a bigger amount, not a 545 USD only. Anyway, I am a bit confuse why this thread has not move to the scam accusation board, probably because OP's evidence is not sufficient enough?

OP has already created a thread on the same topic in the accusation section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386203.0
He created similar threads in a few other places. Therefore, I think that this is a strange behavior, because instead of trying to clarify this case and withdraw money, it all looks as if he cares most about slandering the name of DUELBITS.COM. It is possible that someone just wants to damage the image of Duelbits.

I see, thanks for giving me the complete information. Maybe he was frustrated that he is not getting the sympathy he wants. I should tell him that we have a fair community here, if his evidence are valid, then most likely DT would reg tagged DUELBITS.COM for doing that.

[jossiel]

With those things that you've mentioned, it only proves that they're a serious company and doing a serious business.

Duelbits.com is advertising here and forum and conducting multiple events and this is the first time we heard an scam accusation , and also with cheap claims , I'm not sure that this really have a good proof to provide.

I don't think it's the first scam accusation that I've ever seen on them. There have been others too but they don't make sense as they're like repetitive accusations.

Well, some things like this are always existing when they don't end up with a good result as they gamble. There could be other the same stories that when someone can't just accept what has happened despite all legal processes has been made within the platform.

Good point , with a casino that as completely good reputation and this is the first stone that had been thrown to them? seemingly not constant.

What's constant is that these gamblers can't accept what has happened to them and just blame the casino where they've gambled because they've lost a lot.

And that's why they tend to make some excuses and blames the casino because it's hard to accept defeat and asks the sympathy of those people where they're telling their story that has been combined with twisted statement.

This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.

You'll keep on seeing them when they're frustrated, paid or not.

[Flexystar]

And I would like to know why someone make a deposit in casino if he don't want to play in it?

I doubt that anyone would make such a deposit by mistake, and even if they changed their mind after making the deposit and did not want to take the risk of gambling, they should understand that it is their mistake and in order to withdraw money without any problems, you must follow the TOS rules.

That’s the thing and reason Duelbit gave in the first place while rejecting his support ticket. He was in short doing the money laundering thing by using the casino cashier. It would be worth seeing how they will resolve the matter. Firstly, it was not a mistake at all. Secondly I have started to think why such big casino would ever steal 500 bucks from the random guy. They have proper TOS set out and they’re more than happy to return it if it’s not violated.

That’s what it is getting fired off from the discussion above.

[dimonstration]

And I would like to know why someone make a deposit in casino if he don't want to play in it?

I doubt that anyone would make such a deposit by mistake, and even if they changed their mind after making the deposit and did not want to take the risk of gambling, they should understand that it is their mistake and in order to withdraw money without any problems, you must follow the TOS rules.

That’s the thing and reason Duelbit gave in the first place while rejecting his support ticket. He was in short doing the money laundering thing by using the casino cashier. It would be worth seeing how they will resolve the matter. Firstly, it was not a mistake at all. Secondly I have started to think why such big casino would ever steal 500 bucks from the random guy. They have proper TOS set out and they’re more than happy to return it if it’s not violated.

That’s what it is getting fired off from the discussion above.

If you will read the screenshot of the OP, He actually made a bet but duelbits refund his bet due to unknown reason which OP didn’t emphasize on his report. This is actually just a misunderstanding on OP side since he became worry by the time Duelbits didn’t allow his first bet to be placed or refunded before the match result shown, Either way the OP is not actually planning to money laundering since he really make a bet. He just don’t fully understand how the AML policy works on a casino. I believe this issue is already solved since Op is not updating anymore here.

[Eureka_07]

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As far as understood the issue here, no money has been stolen, not even a cent. The OP has just wager limitation and he refused to have that. He wanted to bet more than his limit. We still do not know what was the reason of his account receiving a bet limit sanction, the OP didn't share the reason behind it. More than that, he just deposited his money, because he did not accept the limit, he wanted to withdraw the funds which he just deposited. That is prohibited since there is a possibility that the money is being laundered.

[magneto]

<snip>

As far as understood the issue here, no money has been stolen, not even a cent. The OP has just wager limitation and he refused to have that. He wanted to bet more than his limit. We still do not know what was the reason of his account receiving a bet limit sanction, the OP didn't share the reason behind it. More than that, he just deposited his money, because he did not accept the limit, he wanted to withdraw the funds which he just deposited. That is prohibited since there is a possibility that the money is being laundered.

He did give the reason why the funds were blocked - and that is because he didn't hit a betting threshold.

I personally don't see how money laundering can occur here (or at least on a massive scale). If he wanted to mix his coins he is much better off going to a coin mixer as opposed to a centralised casino.

Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.

[DoublerHunter]

~snip~
Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.

^ Because OP did not read the TOS and that is the reason why the casino did not allow the withdrawal request because there are wager requirements and this was on the TOS that they should uphold. This is very common, people think that the casinos are can be used as a coin mixer as well and they will move out their coin to a clean wallet which is no one can trace on it, probably that was the purpose of OP and thinking that way. However, this honest mistake was nothing to do, Duelbits will still no need to blame.

[robelneo]

<snip>

As far as understood the issue here, no money has been stolen, not even a cent. The OP has just wager limitation and he refused to have that. He wanted to bet more than his limit. We still do not know what was the reason of his account receiving a bet limit sanction, the OP didn't share the reason behind it. More than that, he just deposited his money, because he did not accept the limit, he wanted to withdraw the funds which he just deposited. That is prohibited since there is a possibility that the money is being laundered.

He did give the reason why the funds were blocked - and that is because he didn't hit a betting threshold.

I personally don't see how money laundering can occur here (or at least on a massive scale). If he wanted to mix his coins he is much better off going to a coin mixer as opposed to a centralised casino.

Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.

Bro, I respect your opinion he should have opted to go to coin mixer that is the right to do if he has the intention to use a gateway to transfer his funds, we have one here ignoring, or not aware of the rule and this is the repercussion of that action we all know that casinos and exchange have rules on our action and we are bounded by rules if we are planning to do something that is opposed to the rule there is a support that we can contact, we cannot bring a good casino down you have to prove that your intention isnot meant to break the rule.

[btc78]

With those things that you've mentioned, it only proves that they're a serious company and doing a serious business.

Duelbits.com is advertising here and forum and conducting multiple events and this is the first time we heard an scam accusation , and also with cheap claims , I'm not sure that this really have a good proof to provide.

I don't think it's the first scam accusation that I've ever seen on them. There have been others too but they don't make sense as they're like repetitive accusations.

Well it is accusation when there are someone accusing the site but the thing is are those really matters? and really executory ? and you are correct those are just BS accusation and cannot be proven that's why i said that it is not considered as scam accusation for me because non of those had been proven.
but let it be there .
as long as i know that Duelbits is one of the most reputable and trust worthy gambling site that i played over the years.

[qwertyup23]

~snip~
Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.

^ Because OP did not read the TOS and that is the reason why the casino did not allow the withdrawal request because there are wager requirements and this was on the TOS that they should uphold. This is very common, people think that the casinos are can be used as a coin mixer as well and they will move out their coin to a clean wallet which is no one can trace on it, probably that was the purpose of OP and thinking that way. However, this honest mistake was nothing to do, Duelbits will still no need to blame.

I just cannot imagine that a trusted and well-reputable gambling website would go on to such extent as to steal $54 from a player.

Like what I mentioned before, it takes years of consistency and effort for a gambling website to earn its reputation. Another thing, it has to offer several promotions and services in order to at least attract more people into trying out their gambling website. I really doubt that duelbits would risk ruining their reputation for such a relatively small amount of money. Probably, it is OP who was not able to read the TOS of the website which thus experienced this unfortunate scenario.