No one wants to speak against stake.com?

[Baskin198]

I have been waiting for around 3 months now and they are saying the investigation is under progress. I have posted all the proofs and in counter all Stunna, the stake's owner, has in return is that a player has won 29 out of 32 bets and that's why he's match fixing.

No one on the entire forum dares to speak against them .. please can someone support me get my funds out? If even they say a game was fixed, just void that particular bet but how can they freeze the entire $100k balance for 3 months with no evidence of match fixing at all

More - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.0

As far as KYC goes, 1 year ago my KYC was declined but I was allowed to gamble, play deposit & withdraw. If passing KYC was such a huge problem, why did they let me play then? Obviously because I was losing money

In past, I have deposited back funds when I was told some bets were wrongly settled as win while they should be voided. I mean if I was wrong, why would I return $10k that time when I had already withdrawn them?

[yahoo62278]

It's not a case of people are afraid of stake lmao. Most of us could care less about any gambling site as long as they are operating in a fair capacity.

I checked your neg trust and see stunna tagged you, so I checked the reference. If you tried verifying yourself via sending documents, why did you send 4 different id's? Also, why was it 4 different people according to stunna?

You want people to believe your story, but you aren't really showing any proof.

[Baskin198]

It's not a case of people are afraid of stake lmao. Most of us could care less about any gambling site as long as they are operating in a fair capacity.

I checked your neg trust and see stunna tagged you, so I checked the reference. If you tried verifying yourself via sending documents, why did you send 4 different id's? Also, why was it 4 different people according to stunna?

You want people to believe your story, but you aren't really showing any proof.

Thanks, finally someone asked questions directly.

1- I have cleared it many times but will clear it again. I sent my documents but they were in my local language to which stake denied and asked for proofs in English. Then I checked and my son had documents in English which I uploaded. You can ask Stunna, the last name on both documents is same and Father's name shows as the one sent earlier. After I sent documents in English, they started asking me passport which I don't have and when I told them, they said get a passport or we won't verify your account. I panicked and arranged documents from a friend, that is all. I was asked for selfie and I provided it all, but they simply kept finding new reasons and at the end said no we only need passport.

2- My documents were declined some 1 years ago and yet I was allowed to gamble, withdraw & deposit. If KYC is such a massive problem, why did they allow me to gamble that time?

3- Most important - They say if a player fails to complete KYC, the account is put on withdraw only mode, which is what my account has been put in right now. BUT DESPITE BEING IN WITHDRAW ONLY MODE, I AM NOW ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW.

Proof of withdraw only mode - https://prnt.sc/Ib64Qo_wLI6c

withdraw only = player can only withdraw but not gamble and despite that when I try to withdraw, I get this error - https://prnt.sc/kniP4Djma4YQ

[NeuroticFish]

1. You creating multiple topics on basically same issue tend to work against you and make you less credible.

BUT DESPITE BEING IN WITHDRAW ONLY MODE, I AM NOW ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW.

2. I guess that you'll have to discuss with the support about that withdrawal, as much you'll dislike to do that. It may be related to your KYC papers and the fact you probably did play with that money (I didn't read fully all your posts).

If KYC is such a massive problem, why did they allow me to gamble that time?

3. I would guess that if they give you certain amounts of money without KYC they can get into trouble. On the other hand, if you just give them money under fake names, all they can tell is "thank you for the fish".


My conclusions: as much as you will hate my answer, it's their house, their rules. Your behavior looks shady at best to any outsider reading a bit into the problems you have.
I did give negative feedback in the past to gambling site for "keeping hostage" user's money (and removed that feedback when they did give him the money back), but that user has come with proof supporting his claims. You.. have a story that doesn't even add up properly (because of your KYC "mistakes"). Sorry.
On your trust feedback matter it would be nice to see them come with proof, on your money problem.. ask the support. Reading properly their ToS may help you too.

[Baskin198]

2. I guess that you'll have to discuss with the support about that withdrawal, as much you'll dislike to do that. It may be related to your KYC papers and the fact you probably did play with that money (I didn't read fully all your posts).

The support clearly said, WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING. Please contact our accounts team and that accounts team hasn't replied me since 60 days or so. Any communication I am having right now at all is via bitcointalk. If they were replying to my emails or via support, I wouldn't even be creating this thread or the other one.

[Mahdirakib]

I was going to reply in your other thread, but you have locked that topic. So, I'm giving the response here

Are you kidding me? Bet365 and any legit casino/sportsbook will ask KYC first up. KYC isn't (or shouldn't) be a toy for casinos to play with when a player wins big. You ask for KYC when you believe the player is accessing from a restricted area or you are deemed ineligible for gambling like underage etc.

Indeed, KYC isn't a ‘toy’, but who said that casino only ask for KYC verification to determine the location and age? There could be various reason for asking KYC, you should read the KYC-AML policy of each casino to know it better. In terms of KYC verification process, crypto casinos aren't same as it used to be in the past. Almost every casino reserves the right to ask for KYC verification. You can see this thread to have a better idea: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements

You were caught for suspicious betting activity. And Stake has asked you to verify your account for that reason. But you are the one who took the KYC verification process as a toy and submitted fake identity documents. Now you are encouraging scammers in the forum to continue their scam attempts.

I think stake has paid and hired too many guys to defend themselves who will go as far as tagging victims so I don't think it's useful to have this thread.
Good luck to the forum owner for creating such an amazing forum where a group of scammers are dominating and scamming victims and have groups who will defend them when caught and asked questions publicly.

Stake hasn't hired anyone to defend themselves. Stunna has given you negative feedback as they suspected (has evidence of transaction too) you as an abuser (match fixing). And you have received two more negative feedback from DT members for your unethical activity. The forum members has helped many people to resolve their issues with Crypto casino. Here is some recent example: Cloudbet issue, Duelbits issue, Fairspin issue.

Even the forum members has stood against some casino and provided negative feedback to the casino representative when the users has arrived here with valid accusation (with proper proof). You were caught by Stake for your suspicious activity, and now you are showing unethical behaviour in the forum. Show us the reason to support you and your accusation.

[LoyceV]

@Baskin198: you've posted several times now that trusted users get paid by Stake to disagree with you. I wish that was true, but I disagree with you for free. My loyalties are not for sale.

[suchmoon]

The support clearly said, WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING. Please contact our accounts team and that accounts team hasn't replied me since 60 days or so. Any communication I am having right now at all is via bitcointalk. If they were replying to my emails or via support, I wouldn't even be creating this thread or the other one.

Stop spamming, talk to a lawyer. No one on this forum can help you anymore and you're just making a fool of yourself with the increasingly belligerent rants.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Maybe people read your story and realized that It was your mistake to begin with. How do you expect someone to support you if you are not even honest enough to support yourself?
Get it from me, I wouldn't support anyone who's dishonest.

First, get your shit together before you complain that no one wants to help you. Posting so many threads won't help. It will make people ignore them even more.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

First, get your shit together before you complain that no one wants to help you. Posting so many threads won't help. It will make people ignore them even more.

Multiple threads aside, I don't think there's much anyone here can do for him other than stake.com, and from what I've read so far it doesn't seem like they're inclined to do so. 

There might be very real (legal) reasons why stake.com thinks Baskin198 went about the KYC process in an improper way and why they're not allowing him to withdraw his funds.  It'd be nice if they laid it all out for him instead of giving him the runaround, which is causing him more frustration and hence is leading to louder complaining here on the forum.  If I missed the part where stake.com gave him their reasoning in full, my apologies.

[Mahdirakib]

There might be very real (legal) reasons why stake.com thinks Baskin198 went about the KYC process in an improper way and why they're not allowing him to withdraw his funds.  It'd be nice if they laid it all out for him instead of giving him the runaround, which is causing him more frustration and hence is leading to louder complaining here on the forum.

Everything has started from the suspicion of Stake odds provider that OP was engaged in match fixing. Obviously no platform will allow any user to withdraw his funds if the system suspect that the user has made the amount by using some wrong method. Stunna said this to OP

That's not what I said. Right now your fate is primarily in the hands of our odds provider, spamming this forum is not going to make any difference. We have a legal obligation not to pay out individuals involved in match fixing. ~

If I missed the part where stake.com gave him their reasoning in full, my apologies.

Stunna has described the details of the investigation in the forum on 21st February. Which was the last response from him into the scam accusation thread of OP (See Here). Also check the first response of Stunna on that topic. I think that the whole story can be described in 4 steps

• Stake odds provider found suspicious betting pattern from OP and informed Stake team about it.
• Stake.com has restricted the account of OP and asked him to verify his account. They were also doing investigation regarding the matter of OP.
• OP sent 4 different person identity documents (could be fake) to pass the verification process. It has created more suspicion about him.
• Stake found a evidence that OP is engaged in match fixing. The odds provider has given the details of his betting pattern that how successfully he was winning by betting on very precise results. (Details in the last reply of Stunna)

OP still trying to get some support on his side to stand against Stake. But he received more negative feedback for his unethical behaviour.

[NotATether]

3- Most important - They say if a player fails to complete KYC, the account is put on withdraw only mode, which is what my account has been put in right now. BUT DESPITE BEING IN WITHDRAW ONLY MODE, I AM NOW ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW.

It's because your winnings are fraudulent since you bet on matches with information given to you by a match fixer (it wasn't a "tipster" as you claim it is otherwise you wouldn't have dumped thousands of dollars on single bets - even the players themselves are under investigation according to Stunna's post).

[TheBeardedBaby]

Only the fact that you sent fake ID is enough to get your account suspended.
In your case you sent multiple fake IDs, and this alone just shows how untrustworthy you are.
Using only the logic here, stake.com did the right thing, without mentioning the bets on the table tennis tournaments and the suspicious activity there.