Lock Russian section.

[Uang_kartal]

Indeed, the forum is a bridge for any information, including the conflict that occurred there (Ukraine) I'm sure not everyone who preys there is here, maybe I don't really agree if all Russian people are filtered from here. And those who seek justice from this section any country for an aspiration, any better suggestion than that bro? one of them made treads/petitions from that country either on forums or on social media? I'm sure some russians or any supporters they have a conscience and about the chaos in ukraine will cry about defense or protection or a liberation?

[goaldigger]

This is crypto forum, a decentralized one I believe so everyone are welcome as all us they abide all the rules here in the forum beside, Putin is not here so let’s not blame ordinary people and throw hate to them because they can’t voice out because of their not fair government system. Russian section should spare from hate, they are also a victim here.

[pakhitheboss]

This forum is for those people who are fighting against the banks and financial institutions. I personally do not support the ongoing war but I would not blame the Russian citizens for this war. They are also getting affected by this war therefore it would not be correct to lock the Russian board. There are only a few that support the dictator.

[Poker Player]

So the ballsy Russian news lady that protested Putin would be a villain according to the op.

https://www.updatednews.com/world/europe/42259

I saw that yesterday. And the lady was lucky because she was only fined but all Russians who protest the war can face up to 15 years in jail. Just for publicly demonstrating against the war. And the OP wanting to discriminate all Russians, when it is normal to think that if there was not this law in Russia, there would be many more people protesting in the streets against the war.

[NoorulHuda]

Yes, they are silently supporting this war.

You mean all are supporting war?
Or its mean that all the Russian Section members also are supporting war.
Let suppose that they are supporting. So
 it is enough to lock Russian Section.
Forum is running fairly. So they don't deserve that.

I just reported it, let's see how it goes.

Also reported.

[Zilon]

It's painful seeing the level of havoc caused by Russian dictators but inflicting the consequence on their citizens will be injustice. Ukrainians have suffered a lot this few period and it's well understood but to have a rethink about it, it's an invasion of the leaders and not the whole country. By the way we should be looking for a way to establish peace between the citizens of both countries and not staring up more war. For me a board should rather be created for both countries where peaceful dialogue amongst the citizens can be reached while we patiently wait for the invasion to come to an end

[PawGo]

So the ballsy Russian news lady that protested Putin would be a villain according to the op.

https://www.updatednews.com/world/europe/42259

I saw that yesterday. And the lady was lucky because she was only fined but all Russians who protest the war can face up to 15 years in jail. Just for publicly demonstrating against the war.

Some Ukrainians suspect it was a Russian provocation, here member of the Parliament of Ukraine:
https://twitter.com/grishchukroma/status/1503500141159985157?cxt=HHwWisC5mbPawN0pAAAA

We see Russian propaganda and Ukrainian propaganda, the difference is that you choose one reality or another.
The worst we can do is an another witch-hunt. Collective responsibility, you know.

I understand that some people would like to "do something" and help in that terrible situation, but I am not really sure if banning random forum members is a solution. I do not know Russian and I do not know what is happening there, but I guess if there are any pro-war posts it is responsibility of their mods to fix that.

[aysg76]

This is very unethical demand I would say because the war started out of Putin's own personal decision and his ego that have also affected the Russian citizens who have nothing to do with it and you could see how they also want peace in the country.

I have seen some reports in which they say Russian people are also supporting the Putin's war but I don't think so that's right and it's mere propoganda to make it feel like they are doing right.When strict sanctions are imposed on you like imprisonment and heavy fines how could you go on support march ? There is enough of this hate spread and war already so bringing it to forum will have no purpose against Russian board.

I am Ukrainian and I am against it 

The Russian section does not belong to Russian users, it is the core of all Russian-speaking bitcoiners, regardless of their country of residence.

When one common citizen of the victim country is so humble not to spread hate with the neighborhood citizens then we must also not debate on this topic.

You are absolutely right that the local boards does not restrict anyone from participating and if you have the knowledge about the language you are free to go and share your thoughts with them.

Hope everything goes well and peace prevail as the Ukrainian people has already suffered a lot.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Before all the events in Ukraine, I always considered the OP a very adequate person. But as they say, if you were able to be https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg58923648#msg58923648 disappointed once,  then the second time will not keep you waiting. I'm wondering how you OP are going to block Russian-speaking users? How will you weed them out? By the presence of knowledge of the Russian language?
In addition, I can please you that yesterday's news, which was announced by Roskomnadzor, is that it will continue to block VPNs that are still working in Russia. In addition to the fact that the forum is banned in Russia, it becomes more difficult for Russian users to find VPNs.
https://tass.ru/obschestvo/14075569

The question is, if there are no Russian-speaking users here, how will this help your Ukraine?
Will there be peace?

[xenon131]

Theymos, pls. Russians kill innocent people in Ukraine, children and women including. The representatives of that nation have no moral right to be on this forum.


I would suggest to ban all Russians from entering this forum and lock Russian section.

No no, calm your nerves mate, this is absolutely out of it, we are angry at what Russia did to Ukraine, but remember that its one man we are talking about , and not the entire Russian citizens.
You can't ask Theymos to lock an entire country out of bitcointalk just because of one man, yes, we understand that there are people of Russia supporting putin and his decisions, but we don't know who this set of people are yet, we don't even know if they are members of this forum, if we knew them, maybe we can ask Theymos to ban them individually, but as long as we don't know, it is absolutely inappropriate to ban an entire country from accessing bitcointalk for the sin of one man which many in the country are likely not in support of.

All civilized World has already cut the whole Russia country and its citizens from the good of Earth. Bitcointalk is one of those good. Should Russians nor be cut from the access to it it would be not be understandable . Russian section must be locked.  It has no right to be on civilized forum.


BTC earned by Russians on bitcointalk allow them to bypass sanctions imposed civilization on them.


Ukraine: Father Mourns Son, 16, Killed by Bombardment | Time

P.S. My son is fighting against Russian's occupants somewhere in Ukraine right now/ If he will be killed I will personally gnaw through as many Russians throats as it would be possible for me.

All Ukrainians have turned out into  wolfs .


Theymos, don't stay aside.  Pls, cut Russians from BTC which allow them to avoid sanctions and continue living with neutral attitude to Putin's regime.

[PawGo]

Russian section must locked.  

It is not a "Russian section". It is a section in Russian language.
Dude, you cannot ban people based on speaking in a particular language.
AFAIK we do not have KYC here, no-one checks which passport you have.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

OP, are you a complete ignoramus or something?  It isn't the average Russian on the street who's doing all of this stuff, it's Putin.  The Russian army, just like with all other countries, doesn't really have a choice but to carry out his orders.  Is that a valid excuse?  No, it isn't.  It's the same one the Nazis used, but the reality is that if you're in an army and your political ideology suddenly differs from some crazy thing your leader mandates that you do, you're not really left with many options.  I'd think that's especially true in Russia.

And as I just wrote in another stupid Meta thread about this conflict, I don't think the forum should be taking stances on any political issues and certainly shouldn't do something completely idiotic like locking out an entire country from accessing the site simply because there's an invasion going on.  

This isn't Facebook, Twitter, or any of those other street-whore social media sites that have one set of lips on the US government's cock and both hands grabbing your personal data.

P.S....You can keep posting horrible pictures of whatever you like, but that's also a trick that media likes to use to sway opinions by tugging on people's heartstrings.  Me, I'm not buying any of that as an excuse to nuke the Russian section.

[tranthidung]

I strongly believe there are always good people in any nation so does Russia. The war, this invasion was triggered by the obsession on power and Great Russia of only a single person, Putin. Why does he have such obsession?

Because he grew up under the Soviet Union and after taking over the power from Yeltsin, he has been given too much time on top of Russians. He has been given power and time to change Russian Constitution and the political, governmental infrastructures there. Russians have to do something to stop it. Else they will live under dictatorship, after Putin will be another one.

On this forum, you can not have full investigation and screening process on good or bad members on moral aspect and others. To over response by locking the Russian local board is too harsh and unfair for them.

I don't support Putin, his war, his invasion, his war crimes but this proposal is unfair, in my opinion.

[Welsh]

This isn't going to happen, without going into the politics of it all; we aren't going to censor a certain section because of current events, whether that does cause hostilities between users or not. We're far more likely to take action on those users only if they're sending death threats, or breaking some other forum rules.

+1

Poorly constructed nonsense threads such as this should go directly to the trashcan. I just reported it, let's see how it goes.

Edit: it's marked bad.

For the same reason that the OP's request wont be carried out; users can to a certain degree without trolling request whatever they want. While, I don't agree with the OP's reasoning, and there's no chance that it would actually be seriously taken into consideration, they can within the rules request it. We aren't going to remove a thread, because their request seems ridiculous to most users. We have plenty of other threads which take extreme views, which don't get removed. That's part, and parcel of freedom of speech. At the very core of this request, a user is asking for something forum related to be changed, despite the poor reasoning, that does fit in Meta. Also, while it might be poorly constructed, we don't tend to remove threads based on someone's English, as long as it's legible.

Now, it doesn't mean that users have to reply to that discussion mind. That's a separate issue all together.

[acroman08]

last time, I saw someone suggest that Ukrainian accounts should be restricted from PW/email change(something like that) to prevent Russian propagandists from taking over the Ukrainian accounts to spread propaganda and false information. both this and that thread are ridiculous.

[The Cryptovator]

You are talking like Bitcoin should ban Russian holders which are impossible. This is a Bitcoin forum, not for a specific nation or jurisdiction. A lot of Russian are against the current war, but they are hopeless. They can't do anything but suffer from many sanctions. Definitely, I don't support any kind of war, but I can't blame citizens for government decisions. Even my governments have been taking a lot of decisions that I do not agree with, but can't do anything. So the forum is dedicated to cryptocurrency enthusiasts, doesn't necessary to turn it for a few specific nations. The forum is accessible via Tor from anywhere. So can't prevent anyone.

[Bitcoin SV]

...lock Russian section

Satoshi wouldn't want that...

[Erumo]

Why dont you want to solve problem with Russia and Russian by yourself, and stop asking others to do your work? Dont drag others into your conflict. Dont try to use others hands and keep your hands clean and fluffy.

You must the among those who call teacher every time you get your ass kicked at school.

[Lucius]

There is a better chance that Putin will walk through Kyiv smeared with tar and feathers and publicly apologize to everyone for the war, than that the admin would go so far as to close a board for political reasons. Such censorship exists only in Russia or the media of North Korea, and if it started happening at the forum, it would be the beginning of the end.

But if there is any truth that Russia intends to completely separate itself from the global Internet, then that board will lock itself up because Russians from Russia will no longer be able to access it.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Turing bitcoin or the forum into a political tool will never happen. Theymos is following the Satoshi's legacy and everything that bitcoin as build on is freedom, no matter race, nationality, gender nor political views! The crypto is for everyone and everyone suppressed by their government should have an alternative to the current corrupt payment system.

This should apply for both sides, the Russians as well as Ukrainians. The consequences from the every conflict are for the civil population, for the normal people, they will pay the price. The politicians and the oligarch will always find a way to save their a$$es, they are already moving assets to Dubai.