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March 16, 2022, 06:59:12 PM
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What could be the measures to use to get into a system of rigidity with strict rules that be as though the life of the system basically depends on the rules?

Using bitcointalk as a case study.
What could be your suggestion based on passive or personal experience?
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March 16, 2022, 07:06:53 PM
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What's your question here? I don't think bitcointalk has strict or rigid rules so it's not a good example of somewhere with that.

A system that involves rules and people normally involves people enforcing those rules and judging them. It becomes more comfortable to be in a system with strict rules when you know the people that enforce them (for example there might be learned excuses you'll be able to use for breaking some or know what's minor enough that it won't be enforced).
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March 16, 2022, 07:49:31 PM
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What could be the measures to use to get into a system of rigidity with strict rules that be as though the life of the system basically depends on the rules?

Using bitcointalk as a case study.
What could be your suggestion based on passive or personal experience?
First, it did be nice if you rephrase your question as it's a bit hard to comprehend.

If I go by what I can understand, I did like to ask you what other measures are you looking for other than to go by the rules?
When a rule or rules of a system are so strict that it be as though the life the system depends on it, then you know the rules are very important and must be adhered to, except in a case where the rules does not favour you, and you luckily discover a loophole, if you already know what going against the rule will cost you incase you are caught, and you think you can bear it, then why not explore?
At the end of it all, we all are free to choose to either obey the rules(and be either happy or sad) or disobey the rules and face the consequences.

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March 16, 2022, 08:34:11 PM
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What could be the measures to use to get into a system of rigidity with strict rules that be as though the life of the system basically depends on the rules?

Using bitcointalk as a case study.
What could be your suggestion based on passive or personal experience?

If i can get your question right, you mean what is required of an individual to be able to adapt to a strict of corporate environment taking this forum as an example.

Well here on the forum, i can understand that no room created for unseriousness and all manners of shit post, no abuse, no fraudulency, and no segregation, you're here to either learn or contribute to learning and majorly on bitcoin or other crypto, any unethical display will knock such user out without hesitation.

All that is expected of you is to ne law abiding at first, forum like this have guidelines and principles which no one can go against, so it is expected of you outside the forum.

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March 16, 2022, 09:07:05 PM
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Based on my passive experience on reading around here starting back then, the forum is not even that strict when it comes to the number of rules. Let's say for one that scams are not moderated. In other platforms, I believe they are banning those.
With just a common sense of right and wrongs, you would be fine.
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March 16, 2022, 10:49:30 PM
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What could be the measures to use to get into a system of rigidity with strict rules that be as though the life of the system basically depends on the rules?

Using bitcointalk as a case study.
What could be your suggestion based on passive or personal experience?

I don't think you can set Bitcointalk as an example, some of the rules here are not really that strict it was created for the orderliness of the topic and good arrangement and flow of conversation, if you are in a conversation you know that you have to let the guy speak first and show all his fact before you counter or give him opinion, all the rules here are so simple it was created to avoid spam and redundant discussion.
You did not give us samples of those rules that you think are strict so we can discuss them further.

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March 16, 2022, 11:24:51 PM
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What could be the measures to use to get into a system of rigidity with strict rules that be as though the life of the system basically depends on the rules?

Using bitcointalk as a case study.
What could be your suggestion based on passive or personal experience?

I don't understand what you mean. Are you comparing the rules of conduct on the forum to those in real life?
Could you please rephrase that question.
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March 16, 2022, 11:39:00 PM
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I don't get the question either, it's better to wait for the OP to respond regarding these queries.

I assumed that it's using the Bitcointalk forum as the case of study regarding the real-life matter. 
Reading here might sharpen your mind towards different aspects like different discussions related to cryptocurrencies.  The same the real-life we also have restrictions and rules here that you should always be avoided and reading that link that I provided would be preferable to those newbies like you OP.

This is only my conclusion IMO, rephrasing your question would be also good to give you the right answer.
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March 16, 2022, 11:59:55 PM
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What could be the measures to use to get into a system of rigidity with strict rules that be as though the life of the system basically depends on the rules?

Using bitcointalk as a case study.
What could be your suggestion based on passive or personal experience?
Dude, here is my own experience,
without the rules, I may be still a spammer and shitposter until right now. You know, I have neutral trust because of being part of spammer blacklists? And I really realized it and accept it because I at that time never try to be better, only fulfilling my post requirements when joining bounties, sometimes my posts were like shitposts. Grin
And if there are no such rules, I will be still there, being the spammer and shitposters.
Rules are very important to make us better. And after we really learn about it, I think that the rules are not strict, it is normal, moreover those actually aim for improving themselves to be better. You don't need to be perfect here, but at least, we are here, so we should try and do better here, follow the rules, and also always keep learning.
I am also still n progress, not saying that I am good right now because I still need many suggestions and critics here that really can make us better again. Everyone here keeps learning. See the rules from positive views

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March 17, 2022, 06:25:57 AM
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Using bitcointalk as a case study.
What could be your suggestion based on passive or personal experience?
For me Ive quite fond of the rules here in forum. We cant define the rules here as strict and rigid cause if its that so then many have complained and cant caught up with it. Its just some users are really having fun of violating it and doesnt read and understand first before they complained.

Most users that complain are those newbies, well ad a newbie they should focus first on the rules isnt it?

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March 17, 2022, 07:46:07 AM
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Do you mean the rules of this forum is really strict? go visit other forum, they do have similar rules like Bitcointalk even more stricter!

Plagiarism do have zero tolerance, it's unethical to use other opinions without giving the sources. Let's back when you're still a student, you're not allowed to copy pasting your friends work otherwise you wouldn't got any score on your homework/exam. Allowing plagiarism is really bad idea, I could imagine how the forum will be messed up and the forum will be useless.

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Strict rules? Do you want them to be on the forum?
I can offer:
The creation of only one account is strictly tied to the IP address of the owner.
Knowledge of a foreign language in the topics to which the user responds. Answers must be complete, without spam, flooding, or any other kind of fraud. For non-compliance with which, a permanent ban immediately follows, and a complete ban on the account in the future. That is, all IP addresses are entered into the database, and after violations are detected, the next registration simply becomes impossible. Or maybe a “know your customer” test? Grin
Now you can compare the existing rules on the forum, and honestly answer, are the rules that are on the forum today really tough?

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It will be good for you to understand that using bitcointalk as a case study for a group with strick rules is very wrong.
One day I applauded Theymos or whoever made these rules while reasoning how things work here.
First, the whole rules are called Unofficial.
Secondly, the moderators are given the opportunity to handle the rules on how they understand and feel.
Every rule in the forum is not new because it is seen in order forums or institutions. Rule like spamming and plagiarism is not new. Infact there are no strict rules in here.
Saying to grow, it is easy to grow because people in the forum are majority good people except some scammers here to reap people off their money.

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March 17, 2022, 06:57:22 PM
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It will be good for you to understand that using bitcointalk as a case study for a group with strick rules is very wrong.
One day I applauded Theymos or whoever made these rules while reasoning how things work here.
First, the whole rules are called Unofficial.
Secondly, the moderators are given the opportunity to handle the rules on how they understand and feel.
Every rule in the forum is not new because it is seen in order forums or institutions. Rule like spamming and plagiarism is not new. Infact there are no strict rules in here.
Saying to grow, it is easy to grow because people in the forum are majority good people except some scammers here to reap people off their money.

I appreciate your reminder of the fact that the rules in this wonderful forum is not new, and it's cause of these rules that have made and taken this forum to the height it is today. Which means that the bedrock of the forum is based  on the unshakable rules and regulations it has developed for itself. And I really admire that a lot

I guess the misunderstanding about the intent of my post is stemming from the fact that I used "Bitcointalk" as a case study. What I really meant out of my post is "is it the strict rules and regulations of any system that have made the system to have last for the period of time it has exised or is there any other means of considerations beyond just the rules?
I hope I have been able to dissect this to you as to the intent of my post.
Thank you.
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March 18, 2022, 09:35:22 PM
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If a platform doesn't have rules then it only means that every person in that platform will do what they want without facing consequences and if that happens then that platform or site would be in total chaos if you ask me. The purpose of the rules even if it is very strict or not is to make the platform or a site in order so that everyone can have a much more organised discussion. Having a rules which all rules are very strict then there wouldn't be any problem at all but it is not a open site or anyone in there doesn't have a freedom of speech or an open forum for example. Take lovesmayfamilis strict rules for example and make a group in social media for example then see the results for yourself.

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March 19, 2022, 07:08:16 AM
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What I really meant out of my post is "is it the strict rules and regulations of any system that have made the system to have last for the period of time it has exised or is there any other means of considerations beyond just the rules?
There are a lot of reasons why a system would last long or ceases to exist after a short time. I wouldn't say the rules are the main reason though, it will always come down to utility in my opinion.

If we use your example, bitcointalk, we can see that this is not the best looking forum out there but it is useful and secure. People gain a lot of information here since a lot of knowledgeable bitcoiners come around here and willingly help others. There are other utilities this forum provides too such as advertising cryptocurrency related services and products, money making, etc. Then on top of those utilities there are rules to keep the forum clean and a useful place of discussion.

Now compare that with similar cryptocurrency forums that existed in the past. Some looked better, and some had looser rules but they are either not popular or died after a short time. The reason was simple: they weren't useful.

It is the same for any other system. Take Bitcoin for example. It is in no way perfect and sometimes it is annoying too (eg. 2017 high fees) but it provides a lot of utilities which makes it useful and made it so that it lasts this long. The rules in Bitcoin has ensured those utilities, in other words those rules complement the utilities.

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March 19, 2022, 08:46:48 AM
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What I really meant out of my post is "is it the strict rules and regulations of any system that have made the system to have last for the period of time it has exised or is there any other means of considerations beyond just the rules?

No, I don't think the rules are what determine the system to last. The rules help because without them the system would probably be unsustainable, but there are many other factors that affect the sustainability of the system. For example, an active community. There would be no system without members, regardless of the rules and regulations.

By the way, why do you keep calling them "strict rules"? Do you think the rules on the bitcointalk.org forum are strict? You obviously haven't compared the rules of other online communities.
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March 19, 2022, 03:13:06 PM
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Op, you should understand that no institution that doesn't not operate with rules, i over heard some people emphasising that no rule here is new, yes of course, the rules here is what governor this institution and without it, it won't have been authentic and been respected, so operating without the rules highlighted in forum, here would have shambled with lack's of communication intonation, so weather strict, rules is a rules depends the way we comprehend it.



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March 19, 2022, 07:49:34 PM
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What could be the measures to use to get into a system of rigidity with strict rules that be as though the life of the system basically depends on the rules?

Using bitcointalk as a case study.
What could be your suggestion based on passive or personal experience?

I think the rules in this system ( forum ) and Bitcoin  is not rigid but it's flexible. I believe you called it rigid because of the plagiarism rule, except that, the rules are well articulated.



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March 19, 2022, 08:35:05 PM
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Bitcoin talk and rigidity or strict rules doesn't correlate. There might be rules but they aren't rigid it can be appealed for in meta. If you consider plagiarism as a strict rules or spamming then you are possibly considering theft as an offense that shouldn't be punishable. In general for a system to function in it's ultimate capacity with orderliness then rules must be set. This rule mustn't necessarily be strict as I said earlier it can also be appealed for by defaulters
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