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March 17, 2022, 12:49:29 PM
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Its not a defence omly defence is when your enemy are afraid of you.
Why they dont bomb moscow for each bomb russia will send then the enemy will respect you.

We live in criminals world if you are feared and can attack then nobody dont touch you

They can send few rockets to kremlin and im sure all war will be stopped.
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March 17, 2022, 03:00:28 PM
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Its not a defence omly defence is when your enemy are afraid of you.
Why they dont bomb moscow for each bomb russia will send then the enemy will respect you.

We live in criminals world if you are feared and can attack then nobody dont touch you

They can send few rockets to kremlin and im sure all war will be stopped.

Moscow might be too far. But the Kerch bridge they should be able to get.

That bridge would cut off Crimea from mainland Russia. I would take it out the first week.

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March 17, 2022, 03:05:54 PM
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Its not a defence omly defence is when your enemy are afraid of you.
Why they dont bomb moscow for each bomb russia will send then the enemy will respect you.

We live in criminals world if you are feared and can attack then nobody dont touch you

They can send few rockets to kremlin and im sure all war will be stopped.

Moscow might be too far. But the Kerch bridge they should be able to get.

That bridge would cut off Crimea from mainland Russia. I would take it out the first week.

And why havent they done yet ?

Is this becouse military leaders have no skills? Or knowledge or ...what other reasons ?
There is saying:
Best defence is attack
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March 17, 2022, 03:11:34 PM
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Its not a defence omly defence is when your enemy are afraid of you.
Why they dont bomb moscow for each bomb russia will send then the enemy will respect you.

We live in criminals world if you are feared and can attack then nobody dont touch you

They can send few rockets to kremlin and im sure all war will be stopped.

Moscow might be too far. But the Kerch bridge they should be able to get.

That bridge would cut off Crimea from mainland Russia. I would take it out the first week.

And why havent they done yet ?

Is this becouse military leaders have no skills? Or knowledge or ...what other reasons ?
There is saying:
Best defence is attack

My guess is they were busy defending.  It was probably a shock to all, even the Ukrainian military command.

I am sure as they proceeded to offense in the coming weeks, they will target it.

I would also blow up all railroads, roads, bridges to/from Russia and Belarus.

After this war is over, Ukraine will not trade with Russia. The border will be closed for foreseeable future.

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March 18, 2022, 02:01:32 PM
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It would be useless if Ukraine launched missiles at Russia, because they have air defenses which would prevent the missiles from entering Russian territory. And if Ukraine did that, it would be an excuse for Russia to further destroy Ukraine.

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March 18, 2022, 02:45:30 PM
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Its too late to attack Russia. Ukrainian government has been criticized for its poor preparations for this invasion. When Russia was amassing thousands of troops in the Ukrainian borders the Ukrainian government was busy downplaying the eminent invasion because they were avoiding panic or anarchy. They would have began to evacuate civilians and recruited and train more fighters. Ukraine would have taken the fight to the borders. Rather they allowed Russia to have a free ride into the country.

Ukraine President was busy travelling to different European countries seeking for support but failed to prepare his people. Now instead of support he is receiving standing ovations.

Attacking Russia would make this war more bloodier and destructive. And Russia has many missile defense systems such as the S-550.

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March 18, 2022, 03:24:57 PM
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March 18, 2022, 06:46:26 PM
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Its too late to attack Russia. Ukrainian government has been criticized for its poor preparations for this invasion. When Russia was amassing thousands of troops in the Ukrainian borders the Ukrainian government was busy downplaying the eminent invasion because they were avoiding panic or anarchy. They would have began to evacuate civilians and recruited and train more fighters. Ukraine would have taken the fight to the borders. Rather they allowed Russia to have a free ride into the country.

Ukraine President was busy travelling to different European countries seeking for support but failed to prepare his people. Now instead of support he is receiving standing ovations.

Attacking Russia would make this war more bloodier and destructive. And Russia has many missile defense systems such as the S-550.

indeed if you do a genocide like ukraine you should have been prepared for an international retaliation,

the western elite still refuses to aknowledge ukraine's donbass genocide and tries to lie to its people about it and silence all those that mention it, like neonazis (holocaust) and stalinists (katin, holodomor)

we don't live in a moral regime we live between genocide deniers, arguing about who is more racist who is more nazi and who is less communist,

and secondly they all commited genocides and deny and justify them

welcome to late stage of human progress evolution.

where the good guy is being determined by who is more left and who is more gender and race left.

they ultimately need to appoint a genderless invisible ghost as their leader, only that would work without the ghost being difammed as a racist/nazi by any group

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March 18, 2022, 08:14:15 PM
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Its too late to attack Russia. Ukrainian government has been criticized for its poor preparations for this invasion. When Russia was amassing thousands of troops in the Ukrainian borders the Ukrainian government was busy downplaying the eminent invasion because they were avoiding panic or anarchy. They would have began to evacuate civilians and recruited and train more fighters. Ukraine would have taken the fight to the borders. Rather they allowed Russia to have a free ride into the country.

Ukraine President was busy travelling to different European countries seeking for support but failed to prepare his people. Now instead of support he is receiving standing ovations.

Attacking Russia would make this war more bloodier and destructive. And Russia has many missile defense systems such as the S-550.

indeed if you do a genocide like ukraine you should have been prepared for an international retaliation,

the western elite still refuses to aknowledge ukraine's donbass genocide and tries to lie to its people about it and silence all those that mention it, like neonazis (holocaust) and stalinists (katin, holodomor)

we don't live in a moral regime we live between genocide deniers, arguing about who is more racist who is more nazi and who is less communist,

and secondly they all commited genocides and deny and justify them

welcome to late stage of human progress evolution.

where the good guy is being determined by who is more left and who is more gender and race left.

they ultimately need to appoint a genderless invisible ghost as their leader, only that would work without the ghost being difammed as a racist/nazi by any group


Why no evidence ? Ukrainen goverment are more jews not nazi or nazi means also jews ?
How it all making sense even one side telling about different story other one different.



jes a jew can also be responsible for nazi crimes if he runs a country, like ukraine while a foreign leader (fladimir putin) tells him over 8 years that in a region where people strive for autonomy a genocide is happening,

if that jewish president then does nothing he is responsible for the nazi crimes, since he had the power, and mr. putin had to respect the sovereignty he was only allowed to tell.

now with puting trying to end the genocide himself braindead western politicians are now blaming putin instead of ukranian leadership and zelinski thats the insane part that is escalating the Conflict

they hope that for racist reasons china, and middle easterners will backstab mr. Putin, and the west will win, but thats not happening, the racist western left will observe how they unite eurasia since it was them that constantly spread violence and destruction while mr. putin helped building nations and respected sovereignty.

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March 18, 2022, 09:27:14 PM
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Its not a defence omly defence is when your enemy are afraid of you.
Why they dont bomb moscow for each bomb russia will send then the enemy will respect you.

We live in criminals world if you are feared and can attack then nobody dont touch you

They can send few rockets to kremlin and im sure all war will be stopped.
1. They didn't expect Putin to make such a decision of going for a full invasion of their Country. Remember, initially, the Kremlin just claimed that they were doing military drills along the boarder. In fact, days before the war videos emerged of some military personnel and artillery vehicles being withdrawn from the boarder and going back to Moscow. So obviously Ukraine relaxed

2.  In case things went bad, they expected the US and EU to instantly come to their rescue and help they fight off the Russian Invaders. Unfortunately for them, it was a miscalculation.

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March 18, 2022, 11:04:25 PM
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Ukraine wants to stay clean, hoping that the world will continue to help them. If they started killing Russian civilians it would look more like they are just as savage as Russians. When things remain as they are and only Russians are proving to be those children-killing savages, there's a chance that more and more Russian citizens will rebel and more soldiers will refuse to fight. It's also much easier to keep the morale high if soldiers know they are fighting thieves, murderers and cowards, not people whose families back in Russia were also murdered by missiles.


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March 19, 2022, 04:29:19 AM
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I do not know how much is the news true but I was reading an article which said that majority of people in Ukraine including the army takes drugs. They are not as competent as Russian army and thus they might not have initiated attacks on Russia. Another reason might be that if they attack Russian places, Russia might launch nuclear weapons on them and they do not have any nuclear weapons themselves to answer this.
Now the situation is that Russia will not give up and even Ukraine knows that. They should actually give up to save the life of people.
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March 19, 2022, 08:36:45 AM
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Because they are busy detaining people
https://rumble.com/vxq4pz-ua-citizens-forced-to-stay-in-their-mariupol-homes-by-the-nazi-azov-battali.html

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March 19, 2022, 02:10:02 PM
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Moscow might be too far. But the Kerch bridge they should be able to get.

That bridge would cut off Crimea from mainland Russia. I would take it out the first week.

Has the Ukrainian army managed to enter Crimea, which has been under Russian control for a couple of years already? They are barely holding on to territories they currently have, I don't expect them to manage to get into Crimea or for that matter Donbas and execute some operations there. I looked it up in a map, do Ukraine have missiles that they can fire from outside Crimea to hit Kerch?
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