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As a newbie in this forum. I am very curious about merits. even though at the beginning when I just joined this forum I didn't know the use of merit at all. I think merits is just like the like button on facebook status that can be given by anyone even by beginners who just joined. but it turns out I was wrong. because when I first joined this forum I tried to give merit to someone with posts that I thought were useful. but it can't. because it turns out I have to have that merits first. and collecting it is not as easy as I imagined. And I also think that it doesn't matter if I don't have merits. but when someone gives me merits for the first time. I became very happy and began to understand the importance of merits.Because I feel that my writing is appreciated by someone who gave me that merits. but I'm wondering, what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merits to someone? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) if I myself if I already have enough merits. then I will give merits to someone if their writing is useful for me. So I ask this question to be a learning material for me who is a beginner. to be used as a reference or future reference in writing topics on this forum or when I want to comment on someone's topic. thank you very much everyone.
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March 21, 2022, 07:40:13 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merit to someone? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Posting quality. If you have good posting quality, some people will like you for that, including some merit sources that will find it difficult not to merit your quality posts. The more you stay on this forum, the more you know, the more you gain knowledge and experience, the more receiving merits will never be a problem, then receiving merit will become something usual. Always try to contribute with quality posts and learn from established members.
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Ahli38 (OP)
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March 21, 2022, 07:50:11 PM Last edit: March 21, 2022, 09:59:55 PM by Mr. Big |
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what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merit to someone? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Posting quality, if you have good posting quality, some people will like you for that, including some merit sources that will find it difficult not to merit your quality posts. The more you stay on this forum, the more you know, the more you gain knowledge and experience, the more receiving merits will never be a problem, then it will become something usual. Always try to contribute with quality posts. means that with this merits award system, it is hoped that it can encourage members not to be careless in presenting and writing in this forum, right? because if someone makes a perfunctory post such as a status on social media that is less useful then it won't make the writer get merit from the reader, right? I just understand now. indirectly this can make this forum clean of posts that are less useful. Has the Merits system been implemented since the beginning of the formation of this bitcointalk forum?. I think it's a genius idea about this merits system. someone's eligibility is really tested.
Thank you for being willing to answer my question. oh I just found out that I can only give merit to others when I already have at least 2 merits. thanks for telling me. and well i will read more about this bitcointalk forum.
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March 21, 2022, 08:34:27 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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but I'm wondering, what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merits to someone?
I think there are no specific criteria, sometimes it can be quite subjective. Meme posts or pictures sometimes can get merits if someone thinks it deserves. But mostly those posts to get merits have fulfilled the common standard such as quality, constructive, informative, meaningful, or helpful to others. Don't worry, if you always try to make good posts, you may get more merits again.
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The Sceptical Chymist
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I'm feeling generous today, so you got some merits that you can give out to a post or two that you like--and that's basically the criterion for why merits are distributed (or at least it should be).
OP, you weren't here back before 2018 so you probably don't realize how bad this forum was back then before the merit system got created. It was a measure taken by Theymos to curb the rampant shitposting by members in sig campaigns or bounties and to make it nearly impossible to farm accounts, i.e., create a bunch of them and rank them all up just by posting enough to gain enough activity. If you'd like some reading entertainment, search the Meta section in late January 2018. The whole section just exploded with threads about merits, and it was friggin' wild.
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March 21, 2022, 09:21:28 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Merits is a very subjective issue, so if you are looking for a general criterion for giving them out, then i am afraid you would not find any, every user has their own personal criteria and you prolly should have yours, and that will help you to give out merits effectively when you see posts that meet your criteria.
But mind you that merit sources for example would prolly have a more lenient criteria for giving out merits since they get replenished every 30 days, and source merits not used up within that time get decayed, so they definitely would give out more merits that a user who isn't a MS. I said that so as you fix your criteria you understand that you might always run out of smerits, thus you make sure you give them out to a post you really like.
Having said that, the forum really doesn't care what you do with your smerits, just do not sell them, and do not give them to your alt accounts.
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It has been here since 2018, OP. Before 2018, it was all activity-based on how you would rank up in here. Think of merit as like Award system in Reddit although there are no ranks there, I believe. If you'd like some reading entertainment, search the Meta section in late January 2018. The whole section just exploded with threads about merits, and it was friggin' wild.
Lol. I recall B&H being bombarded by "plagiarism" posts by many newbies trying too hard to earn merits. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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March 22, 2022, 02:08:54 AM |
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To discover it, let's read two topics about from theymos. Why he decided to create the merit system and his advice to forum members exclusively newbies. Merits should be awarded to members who have good contributions. Sometimes you can see some members exchange merit and it looks like they use merit as a like on social media. Anyway, it is not the main use case of merit on the forum and somewhat is not relevant to the main use case of the merit system.
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March 22, 2022, 02:44:42 AM |
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I don't think it should be debatable when someone give their merit because different user had different criteria, but "quality post" criteria will always included on every users. It doesn't matter which user it is, his religion, his personality, his negative feedback or even got banned. As long as I read the post can be useful to anyone, I will give him merit. Don't need to worry, if you have given someone merit and no one discuss you on Reputation board, pretty sure you have doing right about meriting someone.
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March 22, 2022, 05:27:10 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Why are these questions in META? OP, please move your thread to the Newbies section, there is plenty of information from equally curious newbies who are interested in merit for bounty and subscription companies. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0I read your story, in fact, this issue seems to be of great concern to you, and you have repeatedly asked about it in your Indonesian section. this is very interesting . quite clearly shows who is the benefactor giving or sending merit. but out of that as a beginner, of course I have to be the one who gives good and interesting posts so that there are benefactors who want to give me awards according to their standards. and this award is very useful for newbies like me
I think you have already been given a lot of advice on how to get merit, but you stubbornly do not understand. If this continues, your journey with merit may be a long one. Learn faster.
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pooya87
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but I'm wondering, what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merits to someone?
I'd like to think of the merit system as the like button on most social media platforms or the upvote button in sites such as Reddit. Merits in bitcointalk is a way to make a post stand out so that readers skimming through a topic could find the "best" replies and read them. There were even talks about add a "sort" feature where you could sort posts based on number of merits they've received (it wasn't implemented though). The only difference is that you have to "earn the power to upvote" on bitcointalk. It doesn't come free. To do that you have to receive merits yourself. There really isn't any fixed criteria, everyone does their own thing. It may be a post that made you chuckle or a well written guide that is useful for everyone like this.
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March 22, 2022, 06:53:30 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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but I'm wondering, what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merits to someone? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) The only thing I would like to add to what has been said is that they are called "merits" for a reason. In theory you should give them to someone because you believe that what that person has written has merit. But as pooya87 says everyone does their own thing. There are times when merits are given not so much because people believe that what the other has written has merit, but simply because they agree with what he/she says, without the post merited expressing any profound idea, nor has it taken much effort to write it. The thing is that now you already have some smerits to send, so you can start practicing, while you keep on noticing how others give merits.
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March 22, 2022, 06:57:48 AM |
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I can't call myself the one who distributes merits very often, because I'm not very high-rank yet, and each of my smerit is derived from the merits sent to me. Although I already know that there are merit sources on the forum, and when the merit system was introduced, high-rank users received a certain number of smerit by default and could distribute them before they received their merits and converted to smerit. That's why I'm very picky about my desire to send merit to someone, because I think of them as a finite set, and I don't want a situation where I want to give a merit to a member and not have it.
For me, the main criterion for meriting posts is based on how I see the forum. This is a platform for discussions. These discussions are based on arguments put forward by users in support of their positions. It often happens that I do not agree with the position of a member, but I like the way he argues and justifies it, because it is convincing, and makes me think about the appropriateness of another point of view. And it expands my ideas and horizons. The same criterion applies to those arguments that support the same position as my own. I and some other forum member may be in the same standpoint, but someone has found a better argument to support this view, and I appreciate it, because it helps to strengthen my own viewpoint.
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March 22, 2022, 09:09:05 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I'm aware that many newbie members are asking the same question and trying to understand but there is no single answer. We are all different and each of us has our reasons. There are no rules for granting merits other than a ban on the sale of merits. Personally, I always give merits for posts that bring some new value to the forum, with some new information, analysis, thinking etc. Since I'm active in the Croatian part of the forum, I also opened a topic where all local members can report their quality posts on the forum and get merits.
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March 22, 2022, 09:38:40 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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My criteria of meriting depends on my mood. But usually I give merit if someone shows me a solution or hint on problem I have or question I've asked. I can give merit to an explanation of something I dont understand, but this something must be that I search myself. Something not imposed. For example when I visit beginners section, I would not merit every single guide I see, but I will merit a guide of a crypto thing I find interesting and feel like I need to learn that.
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but I'm wondering, what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merits to someone? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I shuffled your sentences to better answer your questions. I merit posts where I see that the user invested time and effort to write what they did. It's as simple as that. I put myself in their shoes and think how much time, knowledge, and effort would I need to write it the way they did. I don't have to agree with the content, but I am still going to reward that post. Well-reasoned, intelligent, or funny posts can also receive merits from me. Let's now talk about what I don't like to see. I am going to use your words because they fit in nicely with what I am trying to say: but when someone gives me merits for the first time. I became very happy and began to understand the importance of merits. Because I feel that my writing is appreciated by someone who gave me that merits. You are happy, confident, you feel appreciated, and liked when someone merits you, right? You think other people have recognized and appreciated your efforts. Well, I want to see that the people I merit do the same things for others. You have to be part of the system to benefit from it, in my opinion. If you only get merits, but you don't give any to other forum members, you are not part of the system and it's very unlikely you will be merited from me. Exceptions are high-quality posts by members who obviously couldn't care less about the merit system (receiving or giving), and new users (like yourself) who don't have any sMerits to give out. But now that you do, start spreading that feeling of appreciation and respect to other posts that you feel deserve it. Because next time I come across a post by you that I believe should be merited, I am going to check your merit history ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .
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March 22, 2022, 02:16:48 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I don't often use the bookmarks feature in my browser, so I use merit to mark posts as important and maybe it will be useful to me in the future. Or personally user X has a lot of informative posts for myself which with limited remaining smerit I can't give enough to all his posts at one time. To find all these references, BPIP helped me find my smerit spending history.
Sometimes I also violate my own terms of spending my smerit for other reasons.
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Shamm
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March 22, 2022, 02:40:36 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I am not very strict about giving my sMerits cause I know I am part of the ecosystem here in out forum so I give my sMerits to those who are worthy to be given or when I read their post or reply it was interesting or new to me like these so I ill give you a merit. In addition what Other said if someone put an effort to his/her post and try to learn something new in my own perspective it is the example of worthy to be given.
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qwertyup23
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To give you a personal breakdown of my criteria in sending sMERITS, please keep in mind that giving out such is purely discretionary on the part of the sender. While others may have their own criteria which may be entirely different than others, there is at least some commonality as to the benchmark of sending it. Nevertheless, here is mine: - Someone replied to my posts which further expounded the discussion on a certain topic;
- Post contained useful information about cryptocurrencies in general; and
- Scam reports which included substantial proof.
While the first two are self-explanatory, the third point is something that is beneficial to the forum. People who report scams (with substantial proof) should at least be rewarded with some merits.
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