🌀 [banned mixer] - CoinJoin Mixer | Your Anonymity Is Our Priority!

[Etranger]

For those unaware about it, Unijoin just published a new article :

/en/blog/chinese-users-privacy-deep-dive-into-unijoin-bitcoin-mixer]Safeguarding Chinese Bitcoin Users' Privacy: A Deep Dive into [banned mixer]'s Bitcoin Mixer

I have read this article and find it interesting and useful. The only thing which became a question for me is about how exactly the mixer helps Chinese users gain access to cryptocurrency in such a way that there are no claims against them from government agencies. To get “clean” untraceable coins and withdraw them to some offshore exchange, you must first already have these coins. Isn't the very fact of their presence before mixing can be considered a reason for announcing suspicion to such a user? Even if he manages to remove them by passing them through a mixer, his assets will be preserved.

[hopenotlate]

For those unaware about it, Unijoin just published a new article :

/en/blog/chinese-users-privacy-deep-dive-into-unijoin-bitcoin-mixer]Safeguarding Chinese Bitcoin Users' Privacy: A Deep Dive into [banned mixer]'s Bitcoin Mixer

I have read this article and find it interesting and useful. The only thing which became a question for me is about how exactly the mixer helps Chinese users gain access to cryptocurrency in such a way that there are no claims against them from government agencies. To get “clean” untraceable coins and withdraw them to some offshore exchange, you must first already have these coins. Isn't the very fact of their presence before mixing can be considered a reason for announcing suspicion to such a user? Even if he manages to remove them by passing them through a mixer, his assets will be preserved.

You have a point on this : I guess the most viable solution for the Chinese citizens who bought Bitcoin on KYCed exchange is to sell them back to another ( or the same) KYCed exchange and save the receipt ( it may involve taxation of course) as a evidence they don't own Bitcoin anymore and eventually buy Bitcoin again in a KYC-free way.

[sokani]

I would like to bring to the notice of everyone that there's a fake telegram channel, group and website impersonating UniJoin. I remembered some fake groups were reported and finally taken down few months ago. These scammers don't relent, they are like hydra, you cut off one head and another rises. The channel has about 12.1k subscribers while the group has about 8.6k members. It's the same scammer that's operating the channel, the group and the website.

Fake telegram channel:

Code:

https://t.me/UniJoin_A

Fake telegram group:

Code:

https://t.me/+w2Dzbpg_dCMxMmYx

Fake website:

Code:

https://unijoin.plus/

According to whois, the website was created on 27th September 2023.

I'll like us to report en mass the telegram group, telegram channel and the website if possible.

[paid2]

I would like to bring to the notice of everyone that there's a fake telegram channel, group and website impersonating UniJoin. I remembered some fake groups were reported and finally taken down few months ago. These scammers don't relent, they are like hydra, you cut off one head and another rises. The channel has about 12.1k subscribers while the group has about 8.6k members. It's the same scammer that's operating the channel, the group and the website.

Fake telegram channel:

Code:

https://t.me/UniJoin_A

Fake telegram group:

Code:

https://t.me/+w2Dzbpg_dCMxMmYx

Fake website:

Code:

https://unijoin.plus/

According to whois, the website was created on 27th September 2023.

I'll like us to report en mass the telegram group, telegram channel and the website if possible.

Thank you.

It seems that the owner of these groups is https://t.me/UniJoin_AA

[sokani]

Thank you.

It seems that the owner of these groups is https://t.me/UniJoin_AA

Yes, he/she is. When you click on the "start mixing" on the fake website, it would automatically download an app, I didn't care to install it but I think that's where they claimed the mixing and other services take place. They claim to have an investment package or something where users can invest and get rewarded based on their contribution and duration, which is clearly a scam.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I would recommend to UniJoin fans do one more effort and report this fake group to Telegram as well. Reports should be sent to abuse@telegram.org.

This also reminded me of one more imposter:

I suggest to forum users to keep reporting the last group, t.me/UniJoinHB. Since the group has ~10.000 members there are high chances to have people scammed, so please report this group as well.

Does that group still exist?

[Cantsay]

Just to add to the list of fake telegram groups/channels that should be reported for removal; @UniJoin_mixer_bot, it’s a bot with a fixed deposit address meant to deceive users into sending money into it with the hope that it will give the same result as the original site.

Does that group still exist?

I just checked and it has been removed.

[tabas]

Thanks for the alarm sokani, it's worrying that the fake telegram has got a lot of users, 12k+ members/subscribers that's misleading people from the real [banned mixer] website to their fake and scam website. They got 3.9k views with their most recent post there and I just hope that telegram will review the channel and have it removed already based on the reports that it receives and hoping they're not slow as what Google does with their reports.

[paid2]

Thanks for the alarm sokani, it's worrying that the fake telegram has got a lot of users, 12k+ members/subscribers that's misleading people from the real [banned mixer] website to their fake and scam website. They got 3.9k views with their most recent post there and I just hope that telegram will review the channel and have it removed already based on the reports that it receives and hoping they're not slow as what Google does with their reports.

I'm not sure, but I imagine most of these groups buy followers to look legit.

For sure, the more reports we send, the faster it will be handled. This usually takes between 5 and 15 days to be processed by Telegram.

[tabas]

Thanks for the alarm sokani, it's worrying that the fake telegram has got a lot of users, 12k+ members/subscribers that's misleading people from the real [banned mixer] website to their fake and scam website. They got 3.9k views with their most recent post there and I just hope that telegram will review the channel and have it removed already based on the reports that it receives and hoping they're not slow as what Google does with their reports.

I'm not sure, but I imagine most of these groups buy followers to look legit.

Yeah, I forgot that it's possible to buy followers or subscribers for any social media these days as most of them are just bots just to convince potential visitors of these fake channels.

For sure, the more reports we send, the faster it will be handled. This usually takes between 5 and 15 days to be processed by Telegram.

In some quora posts that I've read, it's said to be 3 days and hopefully that it's even faster than these days. So while reading some FAQ on Telegram, there's also another easy way to report aside from:

Reports should be sent to abuse@telegram.org.

There's also this method;

Once you are logged into your account, go to the chat section and search for ‘@notoscam’ bot. The name of the bot is Antiscam and it has a verified tick on it as well.

Code:

https://t.me/notoscam

[GazetaBitcoin]

For sure, the more reports we send, the faster it will be handled. This usually takes between 5 and 15 days to be processed by Telegram.

I believe they can move even faster if many reports are received. If I remember well, the first 3 shady groups were deleted fast when forum users made an effort to send many reports to Telegram for those groups. They were all closed, although some of them were really big.

There's also this method;

Once you are logged into your account, go to the chat section and search for ‘@notoscam’ bot. The name of the bot is Antiscam and it has a verified tick on it as well.

Code:

https://t.me/notoscam

This should work too. The important part is to have those groups reported. Eventually, the reports could contain also links to UniJoin's website, /en/contact]Contact section, as there is visible the official Telegram name of UniJoin, thus ensuring Telegram that the other group is fake. (At least, this is what I did when I made the report.)

[paid2]

This should work too. The important part is to have those groups reported. Eventually, the reports could contain also links to UniJoin's website, /en/contact]Contact section, as there is visible the official Telegram name of UniJoin, thus ensuring Telegram that the other group is fake. (At least, this is what I did when I made the report.)

I agree with you. It's important to include official links so that the agent handling the report owns all the necessary information.

I've saved on my device a little copy/paste message to mass-report these groups:

This group is a scam, impersonating [banned mixer]

The real Unijoin website is: https://[banned mixer]/
The contact page (with their official networks at the bottom of the page) is: https://[banned mixer]/en/contact
The official Unijoin Telegram channel is: t.me/unijoin

Thank you for taking the time to delete this fraudulent group.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I've saved on my device a little copy/paste message to mass-report these groups:

Sounds good. Your text is very similar to the one I used for reporting:

[sokani]

This should work too. The important part is to have those groups reported. Eventually, the reports could contain also links to UniJoin's website, /en/contact]Contact section, as there is visible the official Telegram name of UniJoin, thus ensuring Telegram that the other group is fake. (At least, this is what I did when I made the report.)

Yeah, I included the real UniJoin telegram group in the mail I sent to abuse@telegram.com. I've also reported them on telegram, let's hope it won't take that long for both the channel and group to be taken down.

How about the fake website? Can anything be done about it?

[GazetaBitcoin]

Yeah, I included the real UniJoin telegram group in the mail I sent to abuse@telegram.com. I've also reported them on telegram

That's great, sokani! Great job!

How about the fake website? Can anything be done about it?

Sadly, I don't think we can do anything here. We can't report the fake website anywhere. We can mention it in our reports though, together with the real website of UniJoin, for proving that UniJoin_A is an imposter.

[Cantsay]

How about the fake website? Can anything be done about it?

Sadly, I don't think we can do anything here. We can't report the fake website anywhere. We can mention it in our reports though, together with the real website of UniJoin, for proving that UniJoin_A is an imposter.

Can’t we just report the fake Unijoin to the domain registrar? I have never reported any site before, I don’t know how it works but I believe it’s worth giving it a shot and if all of us make different reports it should be enough for them to actually look at the site and take action.

This is the registrar for Unijoin(dot)plus “ https://www.namesilo.com” and their abuse contact is “ https://www.namesilo.com/report_abuse.php”

I also found other methods here, but I believe reporting directly to the registrar would be faster.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Can’t we just report the fake Unijoin to the domain registrar? [...]

I also found other methods here, but I believe reporting directly to the registrar would be faster.

You can try, but this is a long shot... I doubt something would happen even in case many reports are sent. Taking down a fake Telegram channel is something, taking down a website is something else... Those which sold the domain should also be convinced about this but, since they were paid for giving the domain, I doubt that they would act like good samaritans and risk a trial with the customer which bought the domain from them.

However, it won't hurt to try.

[Etranger]

I believe they can move even faster if many reports are received. If I remember well, the first 3 shady groups were deleted fast when forum users made an effort to send many reports to Telegram for those groups. They were all closed, although some of them were really big.

They can be closed faster, but this is usually done with groups whose content openly violates the norms established by Telegram, as well as distributes absolutely unacceptable, prohibited information, and incites criminal actions. It takes more time to close fake accounts, because administrators have to make sure that they really dealing with a fake counterpart and justify the threat posed by the existence of such a group.

[boltz]

I just report that channel as well and I do hope Telegram official team will do something about this but as far as I know , they have hundreds of reports just like ours per day so that might take a while but hopefully it will be solved during this week.

Meanwhile , I've just read this article ( https://[banned mixer]/en/blog/chinese-users-privacy-deep-dive-into-unijoin-bitcoin-mixer ) and I think the subject on this one is simply epic and China cryptocurrency problem is a bit complex  than I anticipated so massive thanks for this article!

[Etranger]

For those unaware about it, Unijoin just published a new article :

/en/blog/chinese-users-privacy-deep-dive-into-unijoin-bitcoin-mixer]Safeguarding Chinese Bitcoin Users' Privacy: A Deep Dive into [banned mixer]'s Bitcoin Mixer

I have read this article and find it interesting and useful. The only thing which became a question for me is about how exactly the mixer helps Chinese users gain access to cryptocurrency in such a way that there are no claims against them from government agencies. To get “clean” untraceable coins and withdraw them to some offshore exchange, you must first already have these coins. Isn't the very fact of their presence before mixing can be considered a reason for announcing suspicion to such a user? Even if he manages to remove them by passing them through a mixer, his assets will be preserved.

You have a point on this : I guess the most viable solution for the Chinese citizens who bought Bitcoin on KYCed exchange is to sell them back to another ( or the same) KYCed exchange and save the receipt ( it may involve taxation of course) as a evidence they don't own Bitcoin anymore and eventually buy Bitcoin again in a KYC-free way.

This will only work if they are held accountable for their current possession of cryptocurrency. That is, only when a person has this cryptocurrency at the time of the investigation. But if possession after the ban can be punished at any time, although a person may not have these coins at the moment (because there is a receipt of sale), then such a scheme will not save from liability. Moreover, for the sold coins a person may be required to pay taxes from, or the profit received from the sale may be confiscated at all.