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March 24, 2022, 07:08:32 AM
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Most mistakes that every new crypto miner makes

1. Ignored the power consumption of the system itself, ( CPU, RAM, MOBO).
2. Also when using multiple PSU's you have to calculate the 80% individually e.g 1000w PSU aim for 800watt only.
3. Buying GPU's for a certain aim for example aiming for 1 ETH and forgetting that network difficulty changes all the time.
4. Not doing some calculations on your power consumption bill.

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March 24, 2022, 08:18:35 AM
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Buying GPU right now could be the most terrible mistake anyone can make, it's safer to just use the money to buy coins instead of building a rig, I built a few rigs myself already but that's because I'm in this for a long term.

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March 24, 2022, 07:56:32 PM
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Buying GPU right now could be the most terrible mistake anyone can make, it's safer to just use the money to buy coins instead of building a rig, I built a few rigs myself already but that's because I'm in this for a long term.
Correct. If ETH merges to PoS in June as planned, those who bought video cards for 2x MSRP will be the bag holders. Miners who buy lots of equipment below MSRP will win in the end, even if another gold rush takes 2 years. I am a long-term miner, too, but I don't like buying GPUs at today's prices.
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March 25, 2022, 09:53:46 AM
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If you are planning to buy GPU right now don't do it, wait till June gets here first and see what's going on but if you have bought yours let's say 6-7months ago then you already make your ROI and very close to it so whatever you decide to do won't hurt, I advice to keep mining if you get your ROI back already.

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March 25, 2022, 10:40:10 AM
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If you mine in a private house, then the main mistake of the miner is the incorrect calculation of electricity costs.
Mining golden rule: "99% of your expenses are spent on electricity, and it must be cheap." In 2018, even good IT engineers sold video cards at a big loss. The second most stupid mistake is to buy video cards several times more expensive than the manufacturer's recommended price.
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March 25, 2022, 10:45:43 AM
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If you mine in a private house, then the main mistake of the miner is the incorrect calculation of electricity costs.
Mining golden rule: "99% of your expenses are spent on electricity, and it must be cheap." In 2018, even good IT engineers sold video cards at a big loss.

Yes this is a big problem. Many people in germany began mining last year and don´t look at the real electricity usage. They calculate after what hiveos says for example and after they gets their electricity bill in january for the last year - they must sold all rigs absolutly overpriced to cover the bill Cheesy

And for me, i calculate with only 80% of the calculated mining rewards.
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March 25, 2022, 03:57:04 PM
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There is no way to avoid electricity bills unless you are stealing electricity somehow and I'm sure you will get caught one day, if the electricity bill is high in your country it's better to sell your graphic cards right now because their price goes down in few months more, leave mining to those that have cheaper bills.
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March 25, 2022, 07:26:19 PM
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you sell crypto or cards because you have no alternative/other sources of income.

better be making one/multiple while money is easy during bull runs.

got busy setting up one lately but hey got a small area designated there for mining expansion hehe.
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March 26, 2022, 03:14:56 AM
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Mining throughout the years I made tons and tons of mistakes.

1) Keeping wallet.dat files for altcoins on the mining rigs. Ran into so many client wallets which had a virus on them.

2) Using SATA to power the GPU risers.

3) Keeping a motherboard sitting on the cardboard motherboard box, mining for weeks like that.

4) Putting an Antminer outside in the dead of winter. You would think this wouldn’t be an issue however they will crash and when they do, they won’t start mining again until you bring them inside to let thaw out.

5) Keeping a bunch of loud miners in my bedroom and then years later have difficulty sleeping without any fan noise. Need to keep a house fan on inside my room to fall asleep now. If it’s too silent I can’t fall asleep.

6) Instead of using reliable HDD/SSD being cheap and using USB sticks which die a few months later and need to reflash from scratch.

7) Being cheap and instead of getting a proper Network switch I just used old routers and had like 4-5 routers connected in series. Worked fine but tons and tons of CAT5 cable everywhere hanging.

Cool First time using a air compressor to clean my fans. I set the compressor at the max PSI, and pointed at a fan to clean out the dust and it spun maybe at like 10000rpm and completely killed the fan bearing.

There are probably tons more. However these just come to memory.

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March 26, 2022, 06:53:22 AM
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Mining throughout the years I made tons and tons of mistakes.

1) Keeping wallet.dat files for altcoins on the mining rigs. Ran into so many client wallets which had a virus on them.

2) Using SATA to power the GPU risers.

3) Keeping a motherboard sitting on the cardboard motherboard box, mining for weeks like that.

4) Putting an Antminer outside in the dead of winter. You would think this wouldn’t be an issue however they will crash and when they do, they won’t start mining again until you bring them inside to let thaw out.

5) Keeping a bunch of loud miners in my bedroom and then years later have difficulty sleeping without any fan noise. Need to keep a house fan on inside my room to fall asleep now. If it’s too silent I can’t fall asleep.

6) Instead of using reliable HDD/SSD being cheap and using USB sticks which die a few months later and need to reflash from scratch.

7) Being cheap and instead of getting a proper Network switch I just used old routers and had like 4-5 routers connected in series. Worked fine but tons and tons of CAT5 cable everywhere hanging.

Cool First time using a air compressor to clean my fans. I set the compressor at the max PSI, and pointed at a fan to clean out the dust and it spun maybe at like 10000rpm and completely killed the fan bearing.

There are probably tons more. However these just come to memory.
What danger lies with keeping a motherboard on a mobo pack for days? I've been mining like this for some time now what's wrong with this? Anything I should watch out for?

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March 26, 2022, 07:07:35 AM
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Mining throughout the years I made tons and tons of mistakes.

1) Keeping wallet.dat files for altcoins on the mining rigs. Ran into so many client wallets which had a virus on them.

2) Using SATA to power the GPU risers.

3) Keeping a motherboard sitting on the cardboard motherboard box, mining for weeks like that.

4) Putting an Antminer outside in the dead of winter. You would think this wouldn’t be an issue however they will crash and when they do, they won’t start mining again until you bring them inside to let thaw out.

5) Keeping a bunch of loud miners in my bedroom and then years later have difficulty sleeping without any fan noise. Need to keep a house fan on inside my room to fall asleep now. If it’s too silent I can’t fall asleep.

6) Instead of using reliable HDD/SSD being cheap and using USB sticks which die a few months later and need to reflash from scratch.

7) Being cheap and instead of getting a proper Network switch I just used old routers and had like 4-5 routers connected in series. Worked fine but tons and tons of CAT5 cable everywhere hanging.

Cool First time using a air compressor to clean my fans. I set the compressor at the max PSI, and pointed at a fan to clean out the dust and it spun maybe at like 10000rpm and completely killed the fan bearing.

There are probably tons more. However these just come to memory.
lol. im also sleeping with fan noises. maybe thats why i couldnt sleep in guest house.
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March 26, 2022, 01:49:51 PM
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If you mine in a private house, then the main mistake of the miner is the incorrect calculation of electricity costs.
Mining golden rule: "99% of your expenses are spent on electricity, and it must be cheap." In 2018, even good IT engineers sold video cards at a big loss.

Yes this is a big problem. Many people in germany began mining last year and don´t look at the real electricity usage. They calculate after what hiveos says for example and after they gets their electricity bill in january for the last year - they must sold all rigs absolutly overpriced to cover the bill Cheesy

And for me, i calculate with only 80% of the calculated mining rewards.
I see that in some European countries the prices are 20-40 cents per kilowatt, and with such prices it’s definitely not worth mining. I now pay 3.5 cents per kilowatt. You will not be able to compete with miners who have cheap electricity.
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March 27, 2022, 12:00:57 AM
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Mining throughout the years I made tons and tons of mistakes.

1) Keeping wallet.dat files for altcoins on the mining rigs. Ran into so many client wallets which had a virus on them.

2) Using SATA to power the GPU risers.

3) Keeping a motherboard sitting on the cardboard motherboard box, mining for weeks like that.

4) Putting an Antminer outside in the dead of winter. You would think this wouldn’t be an issue however they will crash and when they do, they won’t start mining again until you bring them inside to let thaw out.

5) Keeping a bunch of loud miners in my bedroom and then years later have difficulty sleeping without any fan noise. Need to keep a house fan on inside my room to fall asleep now. If it’s too silent I can’t fall asleep.

6) Instead of using reliable HDD/SSD being cheap and using USB sticks which die a few months later and need to reflash from scratch.

7) Being cheap and instead of getting a proper Network switch I just used old routers and had like 4-5 routers connected in series. Worked fine but tons and tons of CAT5 cable everywhere hanging.

Cool First time using a air compressor to clean my fans. I set the compressor at the max PSI, and pointed at a fan to clean out the dust and it spun maybe at like 10000rpm and completely killed the fan bearing.

There are probably tons more. However these just come to memory.
What danger lies with keeping a motherboard on a mobo pack for days? I've been mining like this for some time now what's wrong with this? Anything I should watch out for?

It’s a fire hazard. The motherboard doesn’t really use much power but there are certain chipsets on the motherboard. Called south bridge and north bridge. They are normally cooled by a heatsink. If you put it on a cardboard box the bottom of that chip generates a lot of heat and might catch on fire. Since in a regular computer case there is a gap between the bottom of the motherboard and inner of computer case.

I never had any fire issues however if you touch with your hand in that area you will see there is tons of heat centered in that area. So it’s better to be safe than sorry. At least put a gap between the cardboard box and motherboard like putting 4 corners on something metal so there is some ventilation there.

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March 27, 2022, 03:09:37 AM
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Mining throughout the years I made tons and tons of mistakes.

1) Keeping wallet.dat files for altcoins on the mining rigs. Ran into so many client wallets which had a virus on them.

2) Using SATA to power the GPU risers.

3) Keeping a motherboard sitting on the cardboard motherboard box, mining for weeks like that.

4) Putting an Antminer outside in the dead of winter. You would think this wouldn’t be an issue however they will crash and when they do, they won’t start mining again until you bring them inside to let thaw out.

5) Keeping a bunch of loud miners in my bedroom and then years later have difficulty sleeping without any fan noise. Need to keep a house fan on inside my room to fall asleep now. If it’s too silent I can’t fall asleep.

6) Instead of using reliable HDD/SSD being cheap and using USB sticks which die a few months later and need to reflash from scratch.

7) Being cheap and instead of getting a proper Network switch I just used old routers and had like 4-5 routers connected in series. Worked fine but tons and tons of CAT5 cable everywhere hanging.

Cool First time using a air compressor to clean my fans. I set the compressor at the max PSI, and pointed at a fan to clean out the dust and it spun maybe at like 10000rpm and completely killed the fan bearing.

There are probably tons more. However these just come to memory.
What danger lies with keeping a motherboard on a mobo pack for days? I've been mining like this for some time now what's wrong with this? Anything I should watch out for?

It’s a fire hazard. The motherboard doesn’t really use much power but there are certain chipsets on the motherboard. Called south bridge and north bridge. They are normally cooled by a heatsink. If you put it on a cardboard box the bottom of that chip generates a lot of heat and might catch on fire. Since in a regular computer case there is a gap between the bottom of the motherboard and inner of computer case.

I never had any fire issues however if you touch with your hand in that area you will see there is tons of heat centered in that area. So it’s better to be safe than sorry. At least put a gap between the cardboard box and motherboard like putting 4 corners on something metal so there is some ventilation there.

also makes gear run hotter.

I use plywood. I cut a hole in the plywood under the cpu spot.

I use spacers to lift the mobo about ¾ inch or 20 mm.

Lastly I use a few cut up 2 by 4’s to lift the plywood.

if you do all of the above box fans work well to help cool the rigs a lot .



https://www.amazon.com/Zorveiio-Mounting-Plastic-Standoffs-Motherboard/dp/B09BCPYQYL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?


above has 100 spacers a mobo uses like 10

so this will do 8 or 9 or 10 mobos. depends on the mobo.

to not mount on plywood with spacers and a hole in the plywood where the cpu is located is a bad build.

the plywood may not need feet as it could rest on a wire shelf.

but the spacers to lift the mobo and a hole 🕳 under the cpu is well worth it.

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March 27, 2022, 04:20:12 AM
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1: Purchasing mining motherboards, which were unreliable and one even caught on fire
2: Bricking a video card with a failed BIOS flash. I later un-bricked it though
3: Not mining from 2015-2016 and saving the coins
4: Buying a cheap Raidmax power supply, which exploded after mining DOGE with two R9 270's
5: Powering a Radeon RX 470 USB riser with Molex instead of PCIe. The card drew 60-70w from a single 18AWG wire, which burned the wire until it glowed red hot
6: Not monitoring VRAM temperatures. I allowed an XFX Radeon R9 290 to run at 132° C VRAM, which left black spots on the PCB. I fixed the problem by installing tiny heatsinks on the memory chips
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March 28, 2022, 03:51:00 PM
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1: Purchasing mining motherboards, which were unreliable and one even caught on fire
2: Bricking a video card with a failed BIOS flash. I later un-bricked it though
3: Not mining from 2015-2016 and saving the coins
4: Buying a cheap Raidmax power supply, which exploded after mining DOGE with two R9 270's
5: Powering a Radeon RX 470 USB riser with Molex instead of PCIe. The card drew 60-70w from a single 18AWG wire, which burned the wire until it glowed red hot
6: Not monitoring VRAM temperatures. I allowed an XFX Radeon R9 290 to run at 132° C VRAM, which left black spots on the PCB. I fixed the problem by installing tiny heatsinks on the memory chips
You never mentioned the names of the motherboards to avoid how will people know which motherboard you are talking about? I use motherboards from 2012 for crypto mining and they work perfectly I'm going to refuse your number 1 point for now until you drop a bad motherboard name on here.

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March 29, 2022, 01:46:11 AM
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not throwing defective parts right away...by not doing this, you will waste your time and effort in the near future LOL
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March 29, 2022, 06:37:21 AM
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Stop running your gpu fans at the highest speed because they will die on you real quick, if your GPU is getting hotter it's the right time to disassemble and change thermal pads and paste.

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April 21, 2022, 03:48:15 PM
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You never mentioned the names of the motherboards to avoid how will people know which motherboard you are talking about? I use motherboards from 2012 for crypto mining and they work perfectly I'm going to refuse your number 1 point for now until you drop a bad motherboard name on here.
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April 21, 2022, 06:34:25 PM
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Buying GPU right now could be the most terrible mistake anyone can make, it's safer to just use the money to buy coins instead of building a rig, I built a few rigs myself already but that's because I'm in this for a long term.

yeah lets see how this holds up .  since you wrote it eth has delayed pos again.

so far this may not be a good guess.

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