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March 25, 2022, 08:37:40 AM
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What I experienced myself, the salary of us working in the office is not enough to support all our needs. but every human being has fortune, and we must also pursue it, so that we don't just rely on one source. still grateful for what we get because we have a fixed salary every year. but in the digital era like today, if we can take advantage of it, of course there will be many opportunities, as we are in this forum, one of them

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March 25, 2022, 09:41:42 AM
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What I experienced myself, the salary of us working in the office is not enough to support all our needs. but every human being has fortune, and we must also pursue it, so that we don't just rely on one source. still grateful for what we get because we have a fixed salary every year. but in the digital era like today, if we can take advantage of it, of course there will be many opportunities, as we are in this forum, one of them
It would be better if you have more than one source of income,
as you said with today's digital development we need to use it well to make money online and there are actually many platforms that we can use for that,
Of course it comes back again depending on the skills each person has
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March 25, 2022, 10:38:44 AM
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But unfortunately, people out there are still dependent on their offline work and they see something or work from the internet as very complicated and they already think that they will not be able to learn it. Their minds have been blocked about the jobs available from the internet are still wide open and they just need to find out what their passion is or what their hobby is. Even though many people have tried to open a business from the internet and many have succeeded and already have income from the internet, even bigger than their previous workplace.

Unfortunately? Lol!

Imagine a scenario where everyone works online...
Oh, you don't have to imagine a scenario, we just had a real-life experience where for a few months a part of the workforce was forced to work for home and a part was forced to shut down.
And you can see all the shortages still happening one year later, the price increase, the bankruptcies, the broken logistics chain?

Unfortuantely?
If everyone would be busy designing logos, making videos, and trading, who is going to pay for these?
If everyone would be doing freelancing work, who would be the customer?
And who would sell you bread and milk, a computer, clothes, and furniture provide you with electricity and heat and internet?

You can still LOL while the people who work from home are employees from the office, especially government employees. Meanwhile, many people who work alone do not work in an office but are still trying to work offline.

Some of the offices are closed, some do not mean all offices are in one city, right? Wink
It means that people still don't work from home, don't work online, and don't try to work online like people who work in offices and government.

Everyone is busy designing logos, making videos and trading? You must be kidding. There would be no such scenario, my friend. Even in big countries but I don't know if that's your scenario, my friend Grin

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March 25, 2022, 05:07:49 PM
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Do you think that if 100 million people start trading tomorrow they will all make at least 500$ a month? Where is that money going to come from? If another 100 million starts making and writing content, who is going to buy that content where there will not be enough people to even read that!

To answer to this little logic, it is possible that if 100 million people start trading tomorrow they won't make profit of $500 a month each but to the other, if 100 million starts making and writing content there are still lots of people to patronize on it because the world population is far more than 100 million and the possibility is there that the service is needed. Learning skill should not discourage any body because of the size of people already existing in there or wanting of customer.
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March 25, 2022, 05:58:15 PM
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I agree and somehow got me scared a bit.
You are right about what you said. Day job is not that sufficient anymore, we have to work our ass if we want a better life for our family and what you said got me in deep thoughts.
I have some side jobs online but I am easily satisfied with what I have. What if it is not? Change does happen and you may lose some even in a short amount of time. Nothing is stable in this world right now.
I don't see myself as a skillful one online, heck even my writing skills are not that good but I did jobs that I didn't know exist before.
No, it is not greed if we want more and we are doing it with by working harder, we just want a secure life.
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March 26, 2022, 06:23:42 AM
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You can still LOL while the people who work from home are employees from the office, especially government employees. Meanwhile, many people who work alone do not work in an office but are still trying to work offline.

Some of the offices are closed, some do not mean all offices are in one city, right? Wink
It means that people still don't work from home, don't work online, and don't try to work online like people who work in offices and government.

Everyone is busy designing logos, making videos and trading? You must be kidding. There would be no such scenario, my friend. Even in big countries but I don't know if that's your scenario, my friend Grin
He just wants someone to flip his burgers basically. Do not really care about people like this, they are not understanding the logic/basics of it fully. Nobody says that any business that requires employees to be at the work should instead force everyone home or bankrupt and closed, we are just saying jobs that can be done at home, should be done at home, and he knows this but he decides to ignore it. Sure, hotels, restaurants, cinemas, grocery stores etc etc etc many jobs would be requiring you to be there.

But, there are so many simple jobs that can be done at home, even call center can be done at home, accountant, PLENTY of jobs can be done at home, that wouldn't cost the company anything, in fact would probably save a lot.
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March 26, 2022, 08:59:54 AM
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Well, you should have thought of that a very long time ago. Anyone who is working shouldn’t be relying just on one source of income. Look at what happened to a lot of people during the pandemic and how so many of them lost their jobs because of the lock down.

What do you think those of them who were just relying on the particular job they lost will do at that particular time? Don’t you think it is going to be really frustrating since they will have no other source of income and will just be desperate at a time like that? So, if you are relying on just one source of income then I would advise you that you should stop and look for other ways that you can also be making money by offering skills online.

There are so many things that you can do online these days and there are even so many freelance platforms like fiverr.com and upwork.com where you can work on your own terms and make money at any time. And not have to wait for the end of the month before you get paid.
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March 26, 2022, 12:46:45 PM
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More income options is always good no matter what the political climate is. Wages have stagnated for a long time already and inflation is basically eating away at whatever small amount we can set aside for savings.

Now regarding war though, I don't think any online skills will be of use if you are the one being invaded since safety would be your #1 priority. You would need survival and fighting skills instead. If your country is the one invading, it might help since your country is going to suffer economically from sanctions, rationing, etc.
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March 26, 2022, 08:14:37 PM
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To answer to this little logic, it is possible that if 100 million people start trading tomorrow they won't make profit of $500 a month each but to the other, if 100 million starts making and writing content there are still lots of people to patronize on it because the world population is far more than 100 million and the possibility is there that the service is needed. Learning skill should not discourage any body because of the size of people already existing in there or wanting of customer.
There will always be customers and audience in whatever field that you decide to work in. what really matters the most is that you make sure that you are very good in what you are doing. When you are good in what you’re doing you’re always going to get customers who would patronize you. There are always lots of people who are ready to read contents and there are always so many companies out there or blogs that are ready to hire writers to write contents for their blogs, websites and social media pages.

So, all those things shouldn't be something to be worried about.And yes not all traders are successful. Some of them can be successful why there are also those who won't be successful as much and there are even those who lose completely. That is why I said it is important that you are good at what you are doing.

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March 26, 2022, 08:47:40 PM
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More income options is always good no matter what the political climate is. Wages have stagnated for a long time already and inflation is basically eating away at whatever small amount we can set aside for savings.

Now regarding war though, I don't think any online skills will be of use if you are the one being invaded since safety would be your #1 priority. You would need survival and fighting skills instead. If your country is the one invading, it might help since your country is going to suffer economically from sanctions, rationing, etc.
If your salary is not enough then its always good to have other source of income and with online activities, you can actually achieve it. So use your skills on a good things not because of greed to do bad things but a greed to earn more in the right way. War is not good, even if you know how to hack or scam people, you should not do that better to be safe than to get involve on a things that is beyond your control.
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March 26, 2022, 09:28:07 PM
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What I experienced myself, the salary of us working in the office is not enough to support all our needs. but every human being has fortune, and we must also pursue it, so that we don't just rely on one source. still grateful for what we get because we have a fixed salary every year. but in the digital era like today, if we can take advantage of it, of course there will be many opportunities, as we are in this forum, one of them
Office salaries are depending on the rank that you have. Rank and file and white collar jobs have their rankings and salary grades depending on management level that you're part of.
But what's good for having this job and being regular with it, you can find another better job online and just do it as a side hustle. As long as you get to manage your time, that's very possible for you to earn a lot if you've got the right skills and finding a company that suits you and their needs. Just find what suits you and just manage your time properly so that you'll get ahead of the others that don't do side hustle.

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March 26, 2022, 09:57:26 PM
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I understand OP when he thinks that by learning other skills in the digital world, he can earn a new income. The interest in venturing into other possibilities is natural when the main income is not enough for savings.
I would recommend that you first explore the Freelance related websites and check the job demands and offers, learn new skills and try out.

Here is a link with the best sites for Freelance.

https://www.hostinger.com/tutorials/best-freelance-websites

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March 26, 2022, 10:17:08 PM
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Having a skills whether you can use it online or not is great since you have skills then you can use it to earn money but those skills will be useless when your country is in war. I am not sure if using your skills to eatn money so you will have money to be able to go to another country to get out of the war and get back once the war is over and people are safe to live in there. Correct me if I am wrong on what I just stated.

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Skills in general, not just digital skills. In times of crisis, you are always at an advantage if you have the skills, more like real-life skills rather than online skills.
This is a very important note to make, having general skills and not pegging it on Online skill is important, I believe that the most Skil that thrive most are those that are rare and doesn't have much people flooding into it, i always wish I could just have a rare skill in art or some or some other sector and not only an online Skill. As the war lingers those affected don't only need to think of a skill but also appreciate the little things of life.
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March 27, 2022, 06:39:20 AM
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Salaries and wages this days aren't sufficient any longer to handle daily bills, most salary earners still live below their salaries which keeps them in perpetual debt. Now in this era the best place to meet a vast crowd of clients is on an online platform and this way more services can be rendered within lesser time with more patronage. So i began my thoughts is digital skill the alternative

If we try to analyze this critically we might say this insufficiency in pay checks is one of the factors that is triggering greed, selfish and money conscious services around organizations. I was thinking If many get an side paying job with digital skill that can help handle bills it might be a gateway to reducing the self centered services we receive
I understand the problem you talk about, but there are different methods to tackle it. One is reducing your own expenditure to the minimum as possible. Companies want you to spend your money and fuel your own greed and sloth, this can be avoided.

Again the idea that you are not earning enough is a personal opinion. Most people are not satisfied with what they are doing as a job, because it was never their passion in the first place. This needs to change because if one follows their passion, even if they earn less they will be happy. Unfortunately it might not earn them well.

It does not mean that they have to go for digital skills. Remember that the biggest sector booming in the pandemic was healthcare and keeping telemedicine aside, majority of that was done physically by caregivers. That needs physical not digital skills.

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Absolutely agree with you. A person is never absolutely happy if he measures his happiness only by material things. The more money a person has, the more his needs grow. This process cannot stop itself. Only a person can stop him and be satisfied with his income today. Perhaps today we have enough money to be happy. And the skills will be good not only digital but also physical.

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Salaries and wages this days aren't sufficient any longer to handle daily bills, most salary earners still live below their salaries which keeps them in perpetual debt. Now in this era the best place to meet a vast crowd of clients is on an online platform and this way more services can be rendered within lesser time with more patronage. So i began my thoughts is digital skill the alternative

If we try to analyze this critically we might say this insufficiency in pay checks is one of the factors that is triggering greed, selfish and money conscious services around organizations. I was thinking If many get an side paying job with digital skill that can help handle bills it might be a gateway to reducing the self centered services we receive
I understand the problem you talk about, but there are different methods to tackle it. One is reducing your own expenditure to the minimum as possible. Companies want you to spend your money and fuel your own greed and sloth, this can be avoided.

Again the idea that you are not earning enough is a personal opinion. Most people are not satisfied with what they are doing as a job, because it was never their passion in the first place. This needs to change because if one follows their passion, even if they earn less they will be happy. Unfortunately it might not earn them well.

It does not mean that they have to go for digital skills. Remember that the biggest sector booming in the pandemic was healthcare and keeping telemedicine aside, majority of that was done physically by caregivers. That needs physical not digital skills.
What makes our salary not enough is our lifestyle. Moreover, the government has set limits on employee salaries, so that at least with the salary we have if it is within that limit, we can live properly as long as we can manage it. Indeed, if you have a desire that is not really your primary need, then you can look for a side job, but for me, that job will be maximized if you run it based on your hobbies, you don't have to force yourself to have the same skills as other people.

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March 27, 2022, 11:42:16 AM
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I have to disagree with you regarding that claim and it's stupid to be honest. Digital skills aren't the only useful skill to get a job, there's soldiers, firefighters, nurse, linemen, farmer just to name a few so what I am trying to say is that there are other skills that you can develop that you will be able to continue to be useful during wartime.

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March 27, 2022, 11:45:02 AM
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Internet is full of different ways, this includes scam ways and legit ways. As you would guess the later one which is legit is really really less in numbers. So answering to your title "online skills" we need huge efforts to be 100% active about it. You cant just go and adopt any skills as we are not bot! you need interest in the same otherwise it wont help in the long run. To be very active its better to choose your own field of study and increase the skills in the same so that we can freelance the work. For example, if you are an IT guy then surely you will have large number of opportunities on the internet. Like, in my field of biotechnology I can not do any freelancer work since I am bind with regulations and also I would need huge laboratory set up.

So everyone should analyse what they can do based on what we studied in our lives. Or else we can also choose to have online courses learning but again as I stated above that depends on your interest.
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March 27, 2022, 03:31:59 PM
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I was thinking within me and my thoughts was if  everyone needs to get a digital skill in-spite of their profession or discipline. looking at it from the angle of declining economies where political, societal, ethnic, cultural, religious, territorial and economic war is hitting the apex as well as currency devaluation. Following this high level of declining economy is it best to get a digital skill either as a full time business or a complementary pay check.
If you really think that your profession is not paying you enough then it is time to rethink your career prospects. In the future many jobs that we do right now will not be available, that is another story in itself but to say that your current job is not paying you well and you need to find a side job is not a good view of things on a professional level. But acquiring new skills is always a good thing.
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