One Alternative To High Gas Prices, The Electric Scooter

[ajochems]

The idea was suitable for the current situation.But the electric vehicle will come into force after a decades.Now the vehicle with Engine 6 was came.And the corporate had his own hand on this,they won’t allow this to happen.They had huge influence on this,from 5 years before the company and people saying about the electric vehicle.Let see how long it take for this action.

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[Gyfts]

The elites get to drive full sized motor vehicles, while the rest of us are left with scooters, says a lot about the current predicament with energy, doesn't it? Reminds me how politicians and climate change grifters meet for a climate summit, in which they take their private jets and travel across the globe. The alternative to high energy prices aren't for the lower class to lower their energy needs, it's to increase energy production and ditch "green" energy initiatives which do not come close to meeting demands.

[STT]

Iam a fan of all technology but this isnt ready for the mainstream, the majority will rather sit on the bus with their shopping bags not this.   Of course young people are biased and want to have these, I do personally but I just cant agree it'll work overall.    The usage of electric propulsion has advanced but its got further to go, ten to twenty years we'll expand the range of possibilities further.   At present I would describe scooters as nice for inner city areas where pollution most easily accumulates so hopefully good governance can encourage usage.
   The bigger challenge more obvious right now is production of energy without the old fossil fuels, do that and you will change the world away from all these old dictators and their awful actions and we can all gain.

[adaseb]

This is not an alternative. What about people who got kids, lots of cargo, or people who live in poor weather conditions. If you must resort to this you might as well just take a bus everywhere. That way you don’t have to worry about it getting stolen.

There is no short term solution to the energy crisis. I think governments won’t do much because they want people out of their gas guzzlers and into more economical vehicles. The people that will suffer are those driving mini vans because they got kids.

EV and the batteries for them they just can’t be designed fast enough. And with enough usage everyone’s power bill will be double and won’t seem as cheap as they make it out to be.

[bustabitsboy]

Best is to use these and manual transport like cycling or walking, a bit of running, jogging etc, I guess with not only we save more money on it, we also boost our health a lot which is a win win situation plus, maybe in future prices of these will rise significantly as cost of gas and oil might go out of the general middle class family and it might be a good investment as well!

Fresh air and pedals from the bike are of course wonderful! But what if we need to go to visit our parents and at the same time all family members, two dogs and three bags of things should be with you? How can all this be moved on a bicycle? If you have one small child, riding a bicycle to visit is not possible

[so98nn]

This option is already getting explored as we speak. In my country EV started to run like crazy and honestly the number is growing way faster. The problem is with the fuel costing in my country. It’s just growing and growing day by day and that’s pees are exploring new options.

The big group like TATA, they have launched Nexon EV, the efficiency is around 600 km in single charge which is way way enough to travel here.

They have taken successful step even though we don’t have proper charging stations around the city. I think this is need and passion of the future that’s why it’s getting success.

So yes this alternative is big stuff ahead.

[Erumo]

Funny that no one yet suggested walking as an alternative to high gas prices? Walking - will make you be more healthy, fit, improve endurance. Cons - shoe deprecation, takes more time to travel, weather dependable.

Now serious - compare how much km you cover during March to October in city only, divide it to 100 and calculate the amount fuel you spend, to $300+ for a scooter plus several dollars weekly for scooter charge. It might turn, that car is still more profitable.

[Lucius]

I am always in favor of any form of vehicle that has minimal impact on the environment and provides fairly good autonomy at a very reasonable cost if we take into account how much energy they need for a single battery charge. For those who live in smaller cities (and even slightly larger ones), an electric bicycle (by which I mean hybrids) is a very cheap and practical way of traveling on smaller routes, although the initial investment can be significant.

A solid electric bicycle in the EU costs at least 2500 EUR, and if you want to adequately protect it from thieves, then you need a few hundred more EUR for a high-end padlock and preferably a GPS that is built into the bike itself. Although many people will never allow themselves to use such modes of transport, their cars are actually their status symbol, and whoever can afford an expensive car has no problem paying a higher price for fuel. I do not mean exclusively some celebrities, but middle-class people.

[Ultegra134]

While it's not a bad idea, it certainly not a great one either. I can detect many disadvantages, first and foremost, it can only be used inside the city, it cannot replace the need of having a car, which is required for longer distances. Secondly, drivers certainly don't pay much attention to motorbikes or actual even actual scooters, let alone an electric one, which doesn't even generate engine noise in order to be heard.

Especially electric bicycles, can be a lot more versatile in terms of moving cargo around, are worth their money, both can replace the need of fueling inside urban areas, while they're not that expensive to buy.

i prefer electric bicycles as well. at least with this, you can sit and you can as well carry a passenger/cargo much easier. it is safer also as compared to e-scooters. anyway, it depends on your activity for the day. some may find easier to use e-scooter if they are just going to short distances without carrying anything. but if you need to go a lil bit far and carry some stuffs, electric bicycle is preferred.

I guess those electric bicycles that can be seen mostly in Asian countries are not yet widespread in the US that's why they prefer electric scooter.

I have both but I do agree that I want to used my electric bicycles more than my scooter. One advantage as well is that when you travel at night. I customized by e-bicycles to have more lights so that motorist can see me. As compare to scooter that I didn't and the mileage that I can go with the bike. But both of them are very useful to me.

I've seen similar scooters around here, while they are versatile, I find them very dangerous. If used on a large city, you're certainly having a death wish, you'll get yourself runover. There are better alternatives, there are electric scooters that share similar characteristics with the regular 125cc (non electric) ones, and have nothing be jealous of. Some of which, are hard to even distinguish from those who have an internal combustion engine.

[Hydrogen]

Funny that no one yet suggested walking as an alternative to high gas prices? Walking - will make you be more healthy, fit, improve endurance. Cons - shoe deprecation, takes more time to travel, weather dependable.

Now serious - compare how much km you cover during March to October in city only, divide it to 100 and calculate the amount fuel you spend, to $300+ for a scooter plus several dollars weekly for scooter charge. It might turn, that car is still more profitable.

I have walked around 8 miles to and from work. On a regular basis. It is time consuming and takes 1 to 2 hours to cover the distance. Then I tried covering the same route using a skateboard and bike. It definitely cut down on travel time.

Walking is not a good form of exercise, in my opinion. To get good exercise a person's heart rate needs to be elevated, which casual walking isn't known for producing.

I planned to recharge my scooter using solar panels and a windmill. That is close to an optimal solution AFAIK. At the moment I have a proof of concept windmill I want to build using a 775 permanent magnet motor. The biggest obstacle to windmills AFAIK is them needing 50:1 to 100:1 gearboxes so the motor can spin at the high RPM it needs to produce peak power. With a 775 motor acting as generator that's worth maybe 100 watts. Starting small seems like the way to go, to scale up to larger capacities later.

I have an old razor E300 with a few planned mods for that as well. I have copper tubing I plan to wrap around the motor housing to act as a water cooling jacket. Then I have a PC liquid cooling radiator and a fan to connect to the copper tubing. If it works, it should keep the motor cool. Planned to upgrade to a more powerful motor and eventually lithium batteries for 2x range extension.

[Mahanton]

Perhaps electric scooters, bicycles and EVs can be a good investment in the near future, should oil prices continue to rise?

We are already on a hi-tech or modern era which these kind of innovation in terms of alternatives is truly that beneficial specially now that everything is really rising up specially petrol products which means that
going electric is good alternative but we know that not all would really be that financially capable on acquiring these things and it shows that it is really costly and in other note that  t here are things
which couldnt really be that feasible on using electric scooter which means those gasoline powered would be still that efficient on very common aspects on daily commute and other purposes.

[Dr.Osh]

Very many people are starting to consider buying a means of transportation that uses solar panels. not only because of high gas prices, but also because of current technological developments. Well, buying one at this time is a solution so that we can save on gas.
it's just that, the drawback of transportation that uses electricity is, the price is quite expensive. Well, not everyone can afford that. In addition, there are still many places that are not too familiar with this technology, so the charging system still has to be done at home, or in certain places. however, for some vehicles it is also not recommended for long trips. however, in terms of its many drawbacks, it's very good to buy one.
I've also seen systems that combine gas and battery. technology is also very good for us so that we can save gas. well, that might be the first step to using this alternative in the long term. Personally, I also intend to buy it when my needs have been met.

[Oasisman]

E bikes & E scooter users is gradually increasing in numbers here in my place, but all users I saw was at the age bracket of below 30.
Mega fuel savings and skipping through the traffic are 2 of the major reasons I can see in using these E transpo.
But I can see one major disadvantage about it, the survivability rate once you get into an accident.
Then It will be followed with not so major list :
- weather (hassle during rainy season)
- easy to get stolen
- I'm quite sure there will be a weight limit? So If you're carrying a lot of stuff daily then I guess E Scooter is not gonna be an option. Maybe E Bikes will do.

I lost hope about Gas price roll back. Though there were roll backs, but after a week or two they'll start another hike higher than the previous one lol.
Here in PH I've seen price hikes 5-6 times in less than 2 months, there were roll backs yet another hike will be imposed again in a week.

[Lucius]

Walking is not a good form of exercise, in my opinion. To get good exercise a person's heart rate needs to be elevated, which casual walking isn't known for producing.

Maybe that's your conclusion based on a long walk of 8 miles a day for a long time - but so far I haven't learned that moderate walking (30 minutes a day) is bad for your health, quite the opposite. What can be bad is walking in a polluted environment (traffic, industry) or using very uncomfortable footwear which can be very uncomfortable for the feet.

Walking is a great way to improve or maintain your overall health. Just 30 minutes every day can increase cardiovascular fitness, strengthen bones, reduce excess body fat, and boost muscle power and endurance. It can also reduce your risk of developing conditions such as heart disease, type 2 diabetes, osteoporosis and some cancers. Unlike some other forms of exercise, walking is free and doesn’t require any special equipment or training.

Mega fuel savings and skipping through the traffic are 2 of the major reasons I can see in using these E transpo.

I know people who have saved a lot of money because they started using e-bikes even before the price of fuel went up - and they come to work faster because they avoid traffic jams. It should be borne in mind that the existence of bicycle paths is a very important factor when people decide on this way of traveling, primarily for safety.

Denmark is said to have one of the largest cycling cultures in the world with more than 12 000 km of cycle paths and about 70% of Danes use bicycles every day - which tells us that it is possible to live differently and not depend so much on oil.

[Hamphser]

- weather (hassle during rainy season)
- easy to get stolen
- I'm quite sure there will be a weight limit? So If you're carrying a lot of stuff daily then I guess E Scooter is not gonna be an option. Maybe E Bikes will do.

These are indeed valid points about con's on having an E-scooter thats why it doesnt really get that much attention aside on being expensive then other factors such as this would really be off a major concern.

This is just really only good if you do make out daily commute on a sunny or fair day but for rainy season then it would really be that hassle plus you are really exposing yourself into dust outside
on the time you are travelling due to other cars that are running around and if you do go to office then that would really be an unpleasant feeling plus you would really indeed minding about
security for it not to be stolen which is true that it is really just too easy to be done by someone.

[ivankoh]

Iam a fan of all technology but this isnt ready for the mainstream

Yes, I think replacing motorbikes will be a response to a future need.  The benefits of electric motorbikes are indisputable when it is more suitable for high gasoline prices and serious environmental pollution.  However, in countries with a long rainy season and flooded with water, most electric scooters face major obstacles, and long-distance travel is also difficult to meet.  So for me, the most likely option is still to meet the needs of work or travel long distances, electric motorbikes will be a great choice and vice versa.

[Nhazwrath]

now put that in a single inch of snow.

let alone 5 months of snow and minus 20.   

try commuting 20 miles. 

[Ultegra134]

E bikes & E scooter users is gradually increasing in numbers here in my place, but all users I saw was at the age bracket of below 30.
Mega fuel savings and skipping through the traffic are 2 of the major reasons I can see in using these E transpo.
But I can see one major disadvantage about it, the survivability rate once you get into an accident.
Then It will be followed with not so major list :
- weather (hassle during rainy season)
- easy to get stolen
- I'm quite sure there will be a weight limit? So If you're carrying a lot of stuff daily then I guess E Scooter is not gonna be an option. Maybe E Bikes will do.

I lost hope about Gas price roll back. Though there were roll backs, but after a week or two they'll start another hike higher than the previous one lol.
Here in PH I've seen price hikes 5-6 times in less than 2 months, there were roll backs yet another hike will be imposed again in a week.

I've lost hope a long time now, I've come to terms that gasoline and a lot of daily goods are going to be a lot more expensive than they used in the past. I'm also noticing a surge in electric bicycle purchases, especially after the government/European Union started promoting them by providing subsidies for them (30% of their total value if I'm not mistaken, it's a few hundred bucks for sure).

In my opinion, it's a great way to exercise and commute around the city, without spending too much money, while with a decent lock, you'll are likely to be safe enough for most cities. On top of that, you could even buy an electric folding bike, which you can carry around if you're afraid it gets stolen.

Unfortunately, these solutions are only for urban areas, while the current electric motorcycles have pretty limited autonomy and are extremely expensive.

[stompix]

An alternative to a gas car is a car that consumes something different!
An electric scooter is an alternative to a bike to a gas scooter!

When you're living in a  country where it rains half of the year when it is not snowing, if you have 30km to commute, when you actually need to carry more than a man-purse to work this is no longer an alternative it's a punishment! Besides, I wound;t understand the need to go for an ultra-expensive scooter when you can get a cheap old-fashioned gas scooter like a Vespa that will get you far more range, be cheaper to fix, and will still get you 1/3 of the gas price.

Denmark is said to have one of the largest cycling cultures in the world with more than 12 000 km of cycle paths and about 70% of Danes use bicycles every day - which tells us that it is possible to live differently and not depend so much on oil.

Yeah, but that 70% means little when you use the bicycle for 1 km and then the car for 1000.
Directly form https://www.statbank.dk/3440


Or for the Netherlands:

Approximately 80% of all bicycle trips are shorter than 5 km;
approximately 7% of bicycle trips are longer than 10 km

10 km is barely the radius of cities like Bucharest or Warsaw, good luck if you're in the suburbs.   

[Captain Corporate]

 This became a thing in Turkey these days. There is a company called "martı" that has been around for a few years now, like maybe 2-3 years at most but they grew insanely bigger and bigger during the pandemic. Nowadays I am seeing them putting electric type of bikes everywhere as well. Not those huge motorcycle things, just small tiny things that you can sit on and go. I believe that that will grow super insanely high as well. I do not know how you get licenses for that, but they probably spent millions upon millions of dollars to just get those vehicles, both the scooters and the electric mini bikes as well. Its really growing exponentially.