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March 27, 2022, 03:54:58 PM
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I thought it would be interesting and fun to start a discussion about this. The forum often talks about teams and players. Trainers are then mentioned as an afterthought. How much influence does a trainer have on a player group? Who has failed in recent years and who has done well? A harsh but also beautiful statement from Mourinho, for example, was that Frank de Boer was the worst coach in the Premier League in his time.
He turned out to be right, after all. Frank de Boer then became coach of the Dutch national team and played a worthless European Championship with that team.
Louis van Gaal is a success coach, perhaps he should have lasted longer and is that perhaps the right man for PSG next year?

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March 27, 2022, 08:26:49 PM
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Van Gaal has always been a very good coach. He was successful at Bayern Munich, but it started with Ajax in the 90s, where he won the Champions League with that team in 94/95. Some even considered the best team of all time. A coach is decisive for a team, but then you have to have the player material or at least have potential, and see what those players can achieve. Could there be such a thing as the top 5 greatest coaches of all time?

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March 27, 2022, 08:34:52 PM
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I thought it would be interesting and fun to start a discussion about this. The forum often talks about teams and players. Trainers are then mentioned as an afterthought. How much influence does a trainer have on a player group? Who has failed in recent years and who has done well? A harsh but also beautiful statement from Mourinho, for example, was that Frank de Boer was the worst coach in the Premier League in his time.
He turned out to be right, after all. Frank de Boer then became coach of the Dutch national team and played a worthless European Championship with that team.
Louis van Gaal is a success coach, perhaps he should have lasted longer and is that perhaps the right man for PSG next year?


All the people are important. But we only discussed about the players and team.Coaches are the people, who was back of the team successful. If the team was loss in one match of league, coaches only had a capacity to get back the player to old potential. Why I am disclosure this!Even I was an Hockey player.Hockey is similar to football and different from cricket. We also need full stamina like a Football player.



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March 27, 2022, 08:42:49 PM
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From long while, we able see the threads for football league or released to the league winners.You made a good move by making this thread.If the player made one goal in a match.It's not only by his talent. But also because of his coach tactics.Every coach had a unique strategy for the game. But it will be revealed, only with his player and his team.When the player used of his own tactics and his coach tactics. He won't loss his chance of goal.
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March 27, 2022, 08:57:05 PM
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There have also been coaches who have been successful, and then a lot less. Mourinho is a good example. With Porto unexpectedly and surprisingly won the Champions Lague, because it wasn't that great when you look at which players were walking around there. That was a truly unique achievement. He also won the Champions League with Inter Milan in 2010/2011. Good players, but certainly not the best in the world. Sneijder was very good back then and a few other players played great too. That was certainly Mourinho's merits. After that, mixed success. Mourinho could be in the top 10 of best coaches, but behind his teacher Van Gaal. Grin

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March 27, 2022, 09:00:36 PM
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talking about better trainers I consider these:

- Jürgen Klopp
- Mikel Arteta
- Antonio Conte
- Thomas Tuchel
- Josep Guardiola
- Massimiliano Allegri
- Jose Mourinho
- jorge jesus

these coaches can take any team and bring results, they are good coaches in my opinion

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March 27, 2022, 09:10:26 PM
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I thought it would be interesting and fun to start a discussion about this. The forum often talks about teams and players. Trainers are then mentioned as an afterthought. How much influence does a trainer have on a player group? Who has failed in recent years and who has done well? A harsh but also beautiful statement from Mourinho, for example, was that Frank de Boer was the worst coach in the Premier League in his time.
He turned out to be right, after all. Frank de Boer then became coach of the Dutch national team and played a worthless European Championship with that team.
Louis van Gaal is a success coach, perhaps he should have lasted longer and is that perhaps the right man for PSG next year?

I admire Carlo Ancelotti, he is the greatest coach, he has achieved several achievements at various clubs. Ancelotti listed himself as the first coach in modern Champions League history to reach the quarter-finals in four different decades. Ancelotti's first achievement was when he coached Juventus in 1999 and now he will compete with Real Madrid in 2022.

The 62-year-old Italian won the Champions League in 2003 and 2007, then with Real Madrid in 2014. In domestic competitions, Ancelotti has won the Scudetto with AC Milan, the English Premier League with Chelsea, the French Ligue 1 with PSG, and the German Bundesliga with Bayern Munich.

With Real Madrid currently top of La Liga, Ancelotti could defend the season by becoming the first coach to win titles in Europe's top five leagues. To find the right person to coach PSG, I see Zinedine Zidane is more suitable to coach Lionel Messi, et al. Because PSG are so eager to win the Champions League, Zidane is the right person to achieve it thanks to his experience with Real Madrid.

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Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson is widely known for managing Manchester United from 1986 to 2013. He is widely regarded as the greatest manager of all time and has won more trophies than any other manager in the history of football.

btw, thanks op for this topic. sir Ferguson is a highly respected coach to this day, even a book about him is published, His loyalty to Manchester United is unquestionable, I personally really believe that if he coached another team, that team would still be strong.

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Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson is widely known for managing Manchester United from 1986 to 2013. He is widely regarded as the greatest manager of all time and has won more trophies than any other manager in the history of football.

btw, thanks op for this topic. sir Ferguson is a highly respected coach to this day, even a book about him is published, His loyalty to Manchester United is unquestionable, I personally really believe that if he coached another team, that team would still be strong.

Yes exactly, Sir Alex Ferguson is the best coach and he has been named the best coach of all time by the International Federation of Football History and Statistics (IFFHS). Sir Alex himself had a coaching career that spanned 39 years, from 1974 to 2013. 26 of his 39-year career he played as Manchester United coach.

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talking about better trainers I consider these:

- Jürgen Klopp
- Mikel Arteta
- Antonio Conte
- Thomas Tuchel
- Josep Guardiola
- Massimiliano Allegri
- Jose Mourinho
- jorge jesus

these coaches can take any team and bring results, they are good coaches in my opinion
What criteria's did you consider before deciding your list? what did you take into consideration before you called out all these coaches as "best coaches".

OP, this discussion is good, but to make it better and less ambiguous, there are some things we need to take into considerations like;
(a) Should the list of best coaches be an all-time list or a list of only coaches still in active duties?

(b) Are we only considering coaches from football clubs, and not coaches for National teams?


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True this makes me feel confused to give the OP's answer, in the thread Best coaches of football and performance I think currently who is still active in all leagues or nationals therefore there is a difference if we give an answer.
and the OPs mentioned for bad and best coaches are many and not only some coaches are mentioned OPs, because there are also coaches who are good at national but less good at clubs and vice versa.

and in my opinion the best coaches for national and club all come from Germany.

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In my personal opinion, the best coach of all time and the coach who has won the most trophies is Alex Ferguson, a total of 48 trophies that he has won since 39 years of coaching, and 38 trophies he got when he coached Manchester United, maybe for now there is no coach. who can match the achievement of the championship title that was obtained by Alex Ferguson, who do you think is the next coach who is able to pursue the acquisition of the Sir Alex Ferguson trophy.
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From what I read, the OP asked (3) questions in the world of football, where all the questions will lead we have to find all the answers through google, except the role of the coach.
I will try to give a little information about the role of the coach for the team, the successful and the unsuccessful.
1. The coach has an active and very important role in educating the team and players to achieve great success in the soccer league, not to mention from all sectors the coach plays a very important role, that's the point.
2. You can find here: Who are the best 50 football managers of all-time?
3. And the third you can also see here about: 50 Worst Managers in World Football History

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March 28, 2022, 05:58:33 AM
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Of course, the influence of a coach is very large in determining the continuity of a team because a good coach will know how to determine the position of a player and who will play. The coach must know each player's character in his team and be able to put them in the best position so that it is hoped that each player can contribute well in the match.

It's a bit difficult to determine who is the best coach because I think each coach has tried to give a good performance for his team and it's only because of bad luck that their team can't win. And if we talk about who will be the coach for PSG next year, then maybe the team already has a candidate for the coach position. Louis Van Gaal may still have a chance to lead PSG but it all goes back to the team and the owners.

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According to some statistics, the effect of coaches on football players is stated as a maximum of 20%. A good coach has a direct share in the championship. Therefore, the contribution of successful coaches such as Mourinho and Guardiola cannot be ignored. Quality and success are not accidental. Good coaches are needed as well as good football players. My favorites are Jürgen Klopp, Joachim Löw, José Mourinho, Pep Guardiola.

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In my personal opinion, the best coach of all time and the coach who has won the most trophies is Alex Ferguson, a total of 48 trophies that he has won since 39 years of coaching, and 38 trophies he got when he coached Manchester United, maybe for now there is no coach. who can match the achievement of the championship title that was obtained by Alex Ferguson, who do you think is the next coach who is able to pursue the acquisition of the Sir Alex Ferguson trophy.
You are right mate. Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest football manager of all time after he worked as a coach. Its clear that in the history of football, no other coaches can beat his coaching strategy. Apparently, he is now the Director, Football Board at Manchester United Football Club Limited. Though there are other top coaches in the field of football, but Sir Alex Ferguson's achievement was definitely incomparable.

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I think will better have specific criteria about Best coaches in Football and performance depending with still active on the club or  another coach have retired from football, maybe if discussing about best coach in football still active I see have potential with Pep Guardiola. He was success coach in football right now where keep consistent on the same game style football and not worry about how attractive and hard games play on primer league but he can manage Manchester City keep consistent with achievement several primer league trophy in this season. Have chance for next primer league trophy in this year if keep consistent until several match left although not easy how to beat Liverpool next two week.

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March 28, 2022, 09:47:06 AM
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talking about better trainers I consider these:

- Jürgen Klopp
- Mikel Arteta
- Antonio Conte
- Thomas Tuchel
- Josep Guardiola
- Massimiliano Allegri
- Jose Mourinho
- jorge jesus

these coaches can take any team and bring results, they are good coaches in my opinion

Honestly pep should have come ahead of the all, do you know he has raised the best player in the last 10 years and that's Messi.
Allegro comes next.
Sir Alex Ferguson will always be on my list
Antonio Conte
Jose Mourinho
Louis Van Gaal
 Xavi Hernandez
This are coaches that have done a lot for young players .

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March 28, 2022, 08:39:31 PM
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Sometimes people forget that there are amazing managers out there but they do not get the same chances as some other managers get. I am sure there are some managers in leagues that nobody watches, but beloved by their club and provide the best they possibly could. We all know about Xavi right now, he was both a famous player, but he also came to Barcelona and changed a team that was barely in the top half, to a team that "possibly" has a chance to win the league after such a big points difference.

But, how many people really followed him when he was in Qatar? I mean sure a few, but not this many. Now imagine all those managers that we do not hear about in those leagues, there could be someone better than all the Pep, Klopp, Tuchel and whatever that we already know.

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March 28, 2022, 09:03:54 PM
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Honestly pep should have come ahead of the all, do you know he has raised the best player in the last 10 years and that's Messi.
Sir Alex Ferguson will always be on my list
Jose Mourinho
pep guardiola is an extraordinary coach, every team he manages must be dangerous, look how man city appear almost perfect in their every match

Jose Mourinho was also the best coach of all time in my list. the last one is sir alex ferguson, who is a legendary coach, who once made man utd highly respected by other teams

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