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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it? I am talking about the coins you are holding long term and not trading or selling short term etc. Such that if you have a set amount of btc or crypto where you are holding long term.
Imagine someone with 5 btc which is a lot of money. That is a lot of money even in first world countries but that isn't even enough to buy a house in many cities in a first world country. But do people here have plans like okay the moment my btc or crypto is worth x amount of money, then I will cash out some part of it or everything?
Now if someone has say 1 btc, they surely need btc to be at least mid 6 figures to even think about cashing it out if they want to think about retiring in a first world country? I know everyone wants more money but if you have a few million dollars, that is more than enough for anyone even in a first world country to retire. Having a million dollars in the US however doesn't make you rich anymore though from what I read. But with people talking about price targets, it depends on how many btc you own for btc. So even if btc went to 500k, well if you only have 0.1 btc, well you are not rich. But someone with 5 btc is going to be rich.
The other thing is if someone has that much money, wouldn't it make sense for them to sell all their btc and basically invest in stablecoin and just earn passive income from it? Imagine someone with 5 btc and btc goes to 500k. That is 2.5 million dollars. After tax, let say they still have at least 1.5 million. But assuming they were holding long term, this number probably would be a bit higher? But let say use 1.5 million dollars after taxes. If that person takes 1 million dollars and then go buy a stablecoin like usdt and stake it on nexo or blockfi or gemini and earn at least 8%... they would earn 80k-100k a year in passive income in that stablecoin which they could then immediately turn it to fiat and cash to their bank account. That is more than enough to live on assuming you do not have crazy expenses.
Now obviously someone could also do staking of stablecoins if they earn a lot of money from stocks or real estate or whatever it maybe. But wouldn't that be the smart thing to do if someone has that much money? Putting money in a regular bank account make zero sense since you don't even earn 1 percent from it... more like 0.01 percent. Also from what I read, with real estate, sure you earn money buying a house and renting it out but you gotta handle repairs and so many other things. So it seems like putting money into stablecoins is the way to go assuming one has a good amount of money no matter where they earned it from?
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March 27, 2022, 08:03:28 PM |
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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it? I am talking about the coins you are holding long term and not trading or selling short term etc. Such that if you have a set amount of btc or crypto where you are holding long term.
Never. I have some coins that I got for $500 in 2014 and I'm never going to sell, especially not in a situation when it goes to a million dollars. I'd rather use it as a collateral, use it to show my credibility, for proof of ownership. I'd be able to borrow fiat money and invest it knowing that if anything goes wrong I'll be able to cover losses with my BTC. Having a few million USD as backup can work wonders when you know what you're doing. Imagine someone with 5 btc which is a lot of money. That is a lot of money even in first world countries but that isn't even enough to buy a house in many cities in a first world country.
It's not a lot of money. Maybe if you're a child who dreams of having a car or going abroad to study... For normal investors who own businesses and real estate 200k USD is nothing. Just another piece of land in a portfolio or a speedboat to have some fun in Summer. The other thing is if someone has that much money, wouldn't it make sense for them to sell all their btc and basically invest in stablecoin and just earn passive income from it?
Invest in a stable coin when you have bitcoin, the most popular cryptocurrency that everything else in this space relies on? Buy a centralized coin that you have to keep on a centralized platform to make a few bucks when you're holding a deflationary coin that explodes with each halving? I hope you rethink it for your own good.
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As a self-proclaimed "long-term holder", I don't plan to cash out in the accepted sense of the term. My vision is greater than that. I demand to buy whatever I want, whenever I want in electronic cash. Whenever I use Bitcoin, I admire us; we've proved, once more, that we're more capable of making decisions for ourselves. We can work outside this broken system. We can redefine money and settle transactions without unquestionable authorities. I don't like the idea of holding bitcoins for a decade, just to return back with more fiat. They say don't put money above principles, 'cause you're gonna lose both, and that's my life motto from now on. I've come to stay. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 27, 2022, 08:30:51 PM |
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One of the things I regret the most was not holding the Bitcoin I had acquired a few years ago, I didn't really need those funds but had cashed out a large chunk of them. Luckily, some of which was saved till now and was invested in DeFi projects and managed to earn a decent sum of money.
After this experience, I'm trying to save as much Bitcoin as possible. I'm not sure when I'll withdraw again, certainly not before surpassing the last all-time high. Currently, I'm not need of funds, thus, I'll keep on holding.
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March 27, 2022, 08:57:55 PM |
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One of the things I regret the most was not holding the Bitcoin I had acquired a few years ago, I didn't really need those funds but had cashed out a large chunk of them. Luckily, some of which was saved till now and was invested in DeFi projects and managed to earn a decent sum of money.
After this experience, I'm trying to save as much Bitcoin as possible. I'm not sure when I'll withdraw again, certainly not before surpassing the last all-time high. Currently, I'm not need of funds, thus, I'll keep on holding.
I feel you and this experience also costed me an opportunity of not taking advantage of BTC's volatility and inflation. Back in 2017, I was privileged enough to participate into various campaign signatures where I earned a handful amounts of BTC during my stay. Since the price of BTC was relatively low (around $5,000-$6,000), the denomination and pay of each campaign signatures where high. Due to financial difficulties, I had to cash out my BTCs weekly in order to provide for my education and materials since I was a college student at that time. Fast forward to today's year, if I did not cash out my BTCs from all the campaign signatures I have participated, I would have saved at least $30,000+ which could have granted me an opportunity to purchase a car for my dad. That is why, this expensive lesson taught me something- to at least cash out my BTCs if I direly need them. I could have worked my ass-off by doing part-time jobs but I chose the easy way out.
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March 27, 2022, 09:06:57 PM |
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Everybody is in a different situation. Anybody who bought pre 2017 should probably have taken some pressure off their lives by buying a house or something. Never sell all your bitcoin, hell don’t sell over 50% but it’s a good idea to sell some to make significant positive changes to make your life better.
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March 27, 2022, 09:11:34 PM |
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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it? I am talking about the coins you are holding long term and not trading or selling short term etc. Such that if you have a set amount of btc or crypto where you are holding long term.
2 types of long-term holders that I found, First, long-term holders who have funding other than Bitcoin, then they tend not to target when they have to release it. This is the reason we are most focused on holders who still have great value in the number of Bitcoins held. But unfortunately this did not happen to us. Second, a long-term holder who still occasionally relies on funds from what he holds, when it rises above 30% to 50% he will cash it out to cover some of the necessities of life. Usually this kind of position tends to be more susceptible to being tempted by the current market conditions where negative issues make it experience shocks to immediately release. Personally, I'm really not in the middle of the two, 2017 was the biggest Bitcoin letting go of my life I've ever experienced. Regret may not equal 2 Pizza boxes paid for with 10,000 Bitcoin. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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I love the fact that the altcoin I held in my portfolio is having the potential to do wonders this season. Am positive that it's going to give me thousands of dollars in profits in no short time. Am not in a hurry to withdraw, am just being calm trusting their price movement. Probably by next year, I will consider trading them. Bitcoin will then be the last thing to trade when it has reached her ATH of $100k as predicted by many
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March 27, 2022, 10:00:04 PM |
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No matter how much bitcoin you own you can't still attain that complete satisfaction the hunger to own more will also be that. personally i love to get more coins so if i am lucky enough to own up to 5btc i will always gamble at least 1 btc often, sell and re-buy at interval while i reserve 4 for a strict hold.
Altcoin still remain shit coin in my dictionary and so withdrawing once a profit margin is hit i don't see reasons holding further except for a few coin
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March 27, 2022, 10:07:46 PM |
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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it? I am talking about the coins you are holding long term and not trading or selling short term etc. Such that if you have a set amount of btc or crypto where you are holding long term.
Well, for long term investment that you will need to maximize your profit. So that means your target would be like, when Btc price hits the 6 digit figure. However, i think one of the most coolest long term purpose for holding Btc is for your early retirement plan. As we all can see, Bitcoin has been increasing each and every year passed. So, by the time you decide to quit your job and settle down to enjoy what you have for the remaining years of your life, Bitcoin might be give your more than enough.
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I almost try to keep investments for a 6 moths period at least, do you consider that not enough?
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Well I have an asset for long-term purposes and I stored it in my hardware wallet. Even in the time that I badly need money, I will never cash them out, I prefer to barrow with someone than cashing them out for that reason. Staking is not a wise decision for a long-term holding, remember that it is hard to find a platform where you can entrust your fund for a long-term purpose, you should always have control of your key always. Focus on bitcoin, not on the shitcoin, they are not worth it.
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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it?
Well as much as I do, but I do want to sell it when I am really in bad shape , like there is an emergency that it really needs large amounts of money. The other thing is if someone has that much money, wouldn't it make sense for them to sell all their btc and basically invest in stablecoin and just earn passive income from it?
Why would I sell a stable and dominant coin for other shits out there? Are you insane, you are already on hard grounds(BTC) and then you want to gamble it on a vague project and no assurance to succeed? There have been so many coins that what to get that top position but they all have failed.
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March 28, 2022, 12:38:16 AM |
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Long term holders will have plans for 4 years of holding at least. 4 years mean a period between two halvings. So the holding time can be longer or shorter than 4 years depends on when you make your entry. Is your entry time before or after one halving? If it is before one halving and you missed an ATH of that halving cycle, you will have to wait till the next halving, next all time high. So your holding time would be longer than 4 years.
A true long term holders should have plans for 8 years in my opinion, that is about 2 halvings, two block reward halvings. That results in good profit but requires a lot of patience and confidence.
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March 28, 2022, 01:29:37 AM |
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Long term holders will have plans for 4 years of holding at least. 4 years mean a period between two halvings. So the holding time can be longer or shorter than 4 years depends on when you make your entry. Is your entry time before or after one halving? If it is before one halving and you missed an ATH of that halving cycle, you will have to wait till the next halving, next all time high. So your holding time would be longer than 4 years.
A true long term holders should have plans for 8 years in my opinion, that is about 2 halvings, two block reward halvings. That results in good profit but requires a lot of patience and confidence.
Everyone has plans to cash out but it might change if BTC can be directly used to buy some products. There may not be the need to cash out when that happens but for a long-term holder who had profited a lot of money, you probably will not fear trading anymore. Or stake coins that already have a big importance in crypto. My plan is just to keep trading, hold stablecoin when there is a bear market and then buy when the market gets better for long term still.
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March 28, 2022, 01:42:54 AM |
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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it?
Im not certain if I can consider myself as a long term hodler since im not like others who can ignore their crypto even for long time because they can sustain themselves financially and not struggling. In my case, I have set target price for my Bitcoin and altcoins on when im going to sell it. But I still take profit at times if my coins had a huge increase, this is to enjoy some of my earnings. Im holding some of my alts for few years now, but when it comes to my Bitcoin, there are times I get tempted to sell it especially if im really in need of money.
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March 28, 2022, 01:49:40 AM |
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For Bitcoin holders, holding Bitcoin is a must and they probably won't sell all the BTC they have. In my opinion, there are times when these holders will cash out on a large scale by selling BTC for half of what they had when the BTC price hit a certain price, for example ATH, and coming back to buy back with that money when the BTC price drops or during the crypto winter with the goal is to multiply the BTC he previously had and prepare for the next bullrun. This has become a cycle that will never be broken.
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Maybe the right time to cash out the bitcoins we have is when the price is higher than the price we bought before, but for now I don't need funds, so I will keep the bitcoins I have, I will withdraw when I need them, and for sure when prices are high, so that I don't suffer losses like what happened in the previous year. But unfortunately now I only keep a little bitcoin, now I will learn from past experience, do not want to rush in cashing out the bitcoins that I have, I will hold it as much as possible.
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It depends on your target goal of profit or what's the purpose of your investment. There's a lot of things to consider and you should not focus on the price number but rather on the percentage of your profit or on the time span you want to take your investment and use it for good. You will never gonna cash out when the price is continuously rising if you don't have a goal because greediness will always control you to hold more. Just make sure you have a reason to take profit so that you will not gonna regret when the price still pump when you cash out. because you can't bring back time while the price keeps up and down.
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yazher
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March 28, 2022, 03:51:01 AM |
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Long-time holders are most likely are not depending on their crypto assets since most have them have multiple sources of income. They will just let those bitcoins in their wallet increase their price in the market until they are extremely in need of it and cash it out or use it to buy what they want. This is the case of the long-time holders. as for the others who were anxious about their investment, they weren't prepared or they don't have enough source of income so they rust to cash it out when they see the price hike in the crypto market.
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