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April 01, 2022, 05:25:52 PM
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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it?  I am talking about the coins you are holding long term and not trading or selling short term etc.  Such that if you have a set amount of btc or crypto where you are holding long term.
They must have a plan to sell it, holding BTC won't be forever. But each holder may have a different target about how long to hold. Some may hold till the next bullrun period or halving season, some may plan to hold 5 years, others may want to hold more over 10 years. It depends on how big the target is, to be achieved by the holders. But for my BTC, the longest holding may be around 4-5 years, I prefer to rebuy again than hold too long.



I think that when it comes to years of holding, we need to be careful not to have long bear periods, even years. Therefore, the holding's strategy should be adjusted according to market changes. Buying and forgeting for 3-5 years works, but not as effectively as correction and purchasing at each dip, as for me.

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April 02, 2022, 04:43:39 AM
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One of the things I regret the most was not holding the Bitcoin I had acquired a few years ago, I didn't really need those funds but had cashed out a large chunk of them. Luckily, some of which was saved till now and was invested in DeFi projects and managed to earn a decent sum of money.

After this experience, I'm trying to save as much Bitcoin as possible. I'm not sure when I'll withdraw again, certainly not before surpassing the last all-time high. Currently, I'm not need of funds, thus, I'll keep on holding.
Buying and holding bitcoin has always been our dream. But if we had already a large amount of bitcoin in our wallet, does it make sense if we keep  it hodling forever? I guess not. The value of bitcoin will always grow for sure but we are not going to experience profits if we never sell some of them. Buying and selling bitcoin has always been a good strategy to see consistency in making profits, but of course we will only sell if the value is very high and if we are in need of funds.
On the one hand, I do regret selling in the past, however, back in 2017, the ATH of $20.000 looked astonishing for that time period, thus, selling seemed like a viable and decent option. I never expected that 3 years later, in 2020, I'd deeply regret it. No hard feelings though, money comes and goes, I've got plenty of stories to share about how I wasted my Bitcoin in 2012-13, there's no point in looking back in the past, but only move forward.

That's right, money goes and will come again. If we still have the opportunity to make money, we should not regret the past. The ultimate goal when we invest is to be able to make a profit and we should be satisfied with that.

So far, we can almost say that the growth of bitcoin is certain but with bitcoin's past still ambiguous holding it would be risky and we regret assuming bitcoin will not increase. Always set a price target for yourself, don't be too greedy greed will sometimes kill our future.

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April 02, 2022, 07:45:14 AM
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That's right, money goes and will come again. If we still have the opportunity to make money, we should not regret the past. The ultimate goal when we invest is to be able to make a profit and we should be satisfied with that.

So far, we can almost say that the growth of bitcoin is certain but with bitcoin's past still ambiguous holding it would be risky and we regret assuming bitcoin will not increase. Always set a price target for yourself, don't be too greedy greed will sometimes kill our future.

That's the point why we are investing and trading right and that is to earn profit. For me, it is depend on a person on when he is going to plan to cash out his long term holding assets but in my case as long as the current market price of a crypto that I am holding is enough already to say that I've earned a profit from it then I am not hesitated to sell it. There are times that we may encounter unexpected instances that sometimes our savings or our long term assets in hold may need to sell for emergency then it's a win-win already.
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April 02, 2022, 08:29:58 AM
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That's right, money goes and will come again. If we still have the opportunity to make money, we should not regret the past. The ultimate goal when we invest is to be able to make a profit and we should be satisfied with that.

So far, we can almost say that the growth of bitcoin is certain but with bitcoin's past still ambiguous holding it would be risky and we regret assuming bitcoin will not increase. Always set a price target for yourself, don't be too greedy greed will sometimes kill our future.

That's the point why we are investing and trading right and that is to earn profit. For me, it is depend on a person on when he is going to plan to cash out his long term holding assets but in my case as long as the current market price of a crypto that I am holding is enough already to say that I've earned a profit from it then I am not hesitated to sell it. There are times that we may encounter unexpected instances that sometimes our savings or our long term assets in hold may need to sell for emergency then it's a win-win already.
Long-term holders do not mean not selling it and will make sales when really need and use it as an emergency fund, and even then only sell part of the profits earned in the long term.
By owning bitcoin for the long term they are not worried because they believe the future will be brighter, and I treat bitcoin as a savings that can be profitable and I will use it when I need it and I will not sell everything until I am satisfied with a bigger one.

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April 02, 2022, 08:42:10 AM
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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it?  I am talking about the coins you are holding long term and not trading or selling short term etc.  Such that if you have a set amount of btc or crypto where you are holding long term.

Never. I have some coins that I got for $500 in 2014 and I'm never going to sell, especially not in a situation when it goes to a million dollars. I'd rather use it as a collateral, use it to show my credibility, for proof of ownership. I'd be able to borrow fiat money and invest it knowing that if anything goes wrong I'll be able to cover losses with my BTC. Having a few million USD as backup can work wonders when you know what you're doing.

I wouldn't want to sell my Bitcoin assets ether but talking of using them as collateral, wouldn't this mean you have to give them to the person/institution you are borrowing the funds from for your investment, I believe this is how collateral works? or is there a different way with this?

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April 02, 2022, 09:40:16 AM
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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it?  I am talking about the coins you are holding long term and not trading or selling short term etc.  Such that if you have a set amount of btc or crypto where you are holding long term.

Never. I have some coins that I got for $500 in 2014 and I'm never going to sell, especially not in a situation when it goes to a million dollars. I'd rather use it as a collateral, use it to show my credibility, for proof of ownership. I'd be able to borrow fiat money and invest it knowing that if anything goes wrong I'll be able to cover losses with my BTC. Having a few million USD as backup can work wonders when you know what you're doing.

I wouldn't want to sell my Bitcoin assets ether but talking of using them as collateral, wouldn't this mean you have to give them to the person/institution you are borrowing the funds from for your investment, I believe this is how collateral works? or is there a different way with this?



Exactly it is!
That's one way not to lose your Bitcoin when you're facing financial crisis. Long term hodler's worst nightmare is when they sold their Bitcoin on a much lower price. Regret kicks in especially when you see Btc starts pumping and hitting new ATH on the latter.
So, If you're a wise investor, never ever let your Btc being sold to cover your personal financial shortage.
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April 02, 2022, 10:00:48 AM
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Actually, I'm tempted to sell for buying a new house. It's not as fancy as you think but I can say that it will be satisfying to call it our home.

I'm in the midst of it but probably going no for the meantime and will wait for further moving up of bitcoin, maybe a year or two more before I start selling huge amounts in my portfolio.

To some, 0.1 to 1 BTC couldn't be that much but that would be a piece of land already in some countries. But if it ever happens that bitcoin reaches back to $70k to $100k, I guess many will start picking their profits.

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April 02, 2022, 10:08:15 AM
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Actually, I'm tempted to sell for buying a new house. It's not as fancy as you think but I can say that it will be satisfying to call it our home.

I'm in the midst of it but probably going no for the meantime and will wait for further moving up of bitcoin, maybe a year or two more before I start selling huge amounts in my portfolio.

To some, 0.1 to 1 BTC couldn't be that much but that would be a piece of land already in some countries. But if it ever happens that bitcoin reaches back to $70k to $100k, I guess many will start picking their profits.

For me there is nothing wrong in taking profits. I did that right at the end of the 2017 bull run and I didn't regret it one bit! I would regret more seeing my portfolio dumping 80% after that.

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April 02, 2022, 10:56:47 AM
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I'm not planning to sell anytime soon. For me bitcoin is a backup plan, not the way to get rich. I want to leave some coins to my children, make sure that if anything bad happens my family will have some money that they don't have to go to court to get. Bitcoin is my retirement fund, my health insurance, education money for my children, life insurance for my wife, backup plan in case of war or a natural disaster.

That said, I usually sell a bit whenever there's a big bull market. Last year I sold about 5% of my coins to have money for a second car and some construction around the house. If we get to another milestone like a new ATH, I'll probably sell another 5%. If we reach 100k, another 5% just to celebrate and have some fun, maybe travel for a few months. I have no plans to spend more than 20% of my current holdings no matter what the price will be. If we go to a million USD next year, I'll still have at least 80% of what I have now in BTC.

Actually, I'm tempted to sell for buying a new house. It's not as fancy as you think but I can say that it will be satisfying to call it our home.

I'm in the midst of it but probably going no for the meantime and will wait for further moving up of bitcoin, maybe a year or two more before I start selling huge amounts in my portfolio.

To some, 0.1 to 1 BTC couldn't be that much but that would be a piece of land already in some countries. But if it ever happens that bitcoin reaches back to $70k to $100k, I guess many will start picking their profits.

1 BTC is actually a lot of money. I's enough to buy a good car, a piece of land large enough for a house in the suburbs, a large piece of land fit for farming far away from the city, I'm talking about average prices in Europe. In Africa or South America 1 BTC can buy you a nice house. If I were you with 1 BTC, I wouldn't sell it all to uy something now. You're going to regret not having anything left just in case. 10 years from now it could be worth 300k USD and all you'll have is a piece of land that you bought for 50k.

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April 02, 2022, 12:58:33 PM
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For those people who are long term holders of btc or any crypto, do you have a plan of when you would sell it?  I am talking about the coins you are holding long term and not trading or selling short term etc.  Such that if you have a set amount of btc or crypto where you are holding long term.
I have two plans when it regards to selling BTC.
1. I will sell it after 5 years most probably or depending on the situation.
2. I will sell it if I need some extra cash for some reasons.

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But do people here have plans like okay the moment my btc or crypto is worth x amount of money, then I will cash out some part of it or everything?  
Yes that is one of my plans. When it reaches the target that I feel I'm happy with then I will sell it no matter what. On the other hand, I also have a target price where if it reaches that price then I will sell it as well.

Overall, I have many plans when it comes to my Bitcoin holdings.
I might be using it for my future and for my kids. I might be using it as emergency funds as well if my current emergency funds isn't enough. I might be using it when I need to buy something that I urgently needed. I might use it to buy a house and lot as well if its enough Cheesy.

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April 02, 2022, 05:00:18 PM
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For me there is nothing wrong in taking profits. I did that right at the end of the 2017 bull run and I didn't regret it one bit! I would regret more seeing my portfolio dumping 80% after that.

I completely agree with you. If you do not make a profit for a long time, you can fall into the trap of always thinking that the profit is too small, and it is too early to make a profit. In my opinion, it is worth remembering that profit only becomes profit when you cache out and fix it, when you close the deal. If the ultimate goal is to make a profit, why not make it?

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April 02, 2022, 05:41:12 PM
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That's right, money goes and will come again. If we still have the opportunity to make money, we should not regret the past. The ultimate goal when we invest is to be able to make a profit and we should be satisfied with that.

So far, we can almost say that the growth of bitcoin is certain but with bitcoin's past still ambiguous holding it would be risky and we regret assuming bitcoin will not increase. Always set a price target for yourself, don't be too greedy greed will sometimes kill our future.

That's the point why we are investing and trading right and that is to earn profit. For me, it is depend on a person on when he is going to plan to cash out his long term holding assets but in my case as long as the current market price of a crypto that I am holding is enough already to say that I've earned a profit from it then I am not hesitated to sell it. There are times that we may encounter unexpected instances that sometimes our savings or our long term assets in hold may need to sell for emergency then it's a win-win already.
Long-term holders do not mean not selling it and will make sales when really need and use it as an emergency fund, and even then only sell part of the profits earned in the long term.
By owning bitcoin for the long term they are not worried because they believe the future will be brighter, and I treat bitcoin as a savings that can be profitable and I will use it when I need it and I will not sell everything until I am satisfied with a bigger one.
I haven't sold a single portion of Bitcoin for two years now, I'm currently trying to accumulate as much as possible, without selling any without having a serious reason to do so. To be honest, despite owning more Bitcoin than I used to do back in November's ATH, my coins are worth less, thus, I'm currently taking a loss, but with patience, it will certainly pay off in the long-term.

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April 02, 2022, 06:46:11 PM
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I completely agree with you. If you do not make a profit for a long time, you can fall into the trap of always thinking that the profit is too small, and it is too early to make a profit. In my opinion, it is worth remembering that profit only becomes profit when you cache out and fix it, when you close the deal. If the ultimate goal is to make a profit, why not make it?

I know I said that there is nothing wrong in cashing out, but not everyone in crypto is here necessarily for profit. There is a lot of people, especially long term holders, who are here because of the technology. Those guys will probably never sell and will buy stuff they need or want directly for Bitcoin.

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Till bitcoin reaches$1,000,000 for each or for eternity, lol... of course that's a joke, a big joke.
Well, the truth is, I hodl and still make good use of my bitcoin. Hodling BTc doesn't mean you've got to hodl for ever and starve yourself to death or loose out on some of the funs you could spoil yourself with from your hidlings when you can. The idea is, you should do your best to stay off your crypto (Bitcoin) hodlings and spend only when it's inevitable that you do. I ain't piling all this coins away so it get inherited and used over God knows what when I'm gone.

Bitcoin need more used cases and hodling it in a wallet (custodial or non custodial), exchange (which is obviously a bad idea for huge hodlings) and staking it on some platform isn't going to give it that. You ought to use it for the currency that it is and always endeavour to have some stored away, never hesitating to buy more to increase your hodling when  you can and aren't spending.
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For me there is nothing wrong in taking profits. I did that right at the end of the 2017 bull run and I didn't regret it one bit! I would regret more seeing my portfolio dumping 80% after that.
Whether it is small or big amount, a profit is still a profit so what is wrong of taking it? to the person that are not contented or not happy with small profits, maybe? and I believe those people will rather see their portfolio dumping than sell their coin for some profits. In your case, you are very lucky because you sold your coins at the best moment. Coins are at their highest at the end of 2017 but the market dump on the whole 2018.

It take almost three years again before the new bull begin. What about that time, you have predicted it that it will happen? when the price goes back to 70k, pretty sure many are going to sell because many have missed the last year's bull.
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April 02, 2022, 08:10:30 PM
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The idea of holding bitcoin for a long time in the course of life teaches you many things.
There are those who want to accumulate more bitcoin and do it for a goal.
I think that is where we participate, I want to own bitcoin for a long time and always thinking of my family and while I am going through this journey I am willing to provide solutions to unforeseen situations.
Last year was memorable for me. I was able to make repairs to my house for which I am proud. The house is like new for twenty more years, God willing.
I made use of my investment and now I'm going for more, the best ally we have is time, bitcoin will always be waiting.
In my portfolio I can have other coins but bitcoin is my main investment.
If we have been fortunate to know how good decentralization brings us by bitcoin, why let it go?

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April 02, 2022, 09:42:40 PM
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I made a 5-years plan. Bought in may 2020, plan to sell in july 2025, when I will finish my master degree.
It's interesting for me to see that instead a fiat value goal you have a date to sell. I'm curious to know what you would do in case 2025 is a bad year compared to 2024 and, let's say, bitcoin value is half than the previous year, what would you do? Still selling anyway? Or at that point you'd wait?
Well , it shouldn't be an automatic chronometer. If the plan is for after the 5 upcoming years, and that the investor is not in a critical financial issue, then don't expect him to sell his savings at a lower price than expected. Waiting for other few weeks or months should be a part of the investment plan because there are no guarantees that the price will get higher after a certain period of time or that the price won't recover if he decreased a little bit after five year waiting. Note that this investment scheme would safely work only with bitcoin and few other alts.
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April 02, 2022, 09:59:12 PM
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I'm not planning to sell anytime soon. For me bitcoin is a backup plan, not the way to get rich. I want to leave some coins to my children, make sure that if anything bad happens my family will have some money that they don't have to go to court to get. Bitcoin is my retirement fund, my health insurance, education money for my children, life insurance for my wife, backup plan in case of war or a natural disaster.

That said, I usually sell a bit whenever there's a big bull market. Last year I sold about 5% of my coins to have money for a second car and some construction around the house. If we get to another milestone like a new ATH, I'll probably sell another 5%. If we reach 100k, another 5% just to celebrate and have some fun, maybe travel for a few months. I have no plans to spend more than 20% of my current holdings no matter what the price will be. If we go to a million USD next year, I'll still have at least 80% of what I have now in BTC.
To some doesn't mean nation or land, it means to some people. You could be from the poorest nation but be the richest person in that nation and 1 bitcoin wouldn't mean something to you, or you could be from a huge nation but a homeless person and 1 bitcoin would mean a lot to you.

This means that if you have 1 bitcoin, and you are not a rich person, if you are even at a level where you live pay check to pay check, then 1 bitcoin could definitely get you a nice start. At the very worst case, even in places like the USA or the UK, that would mean that you could buy a house taking out a loan. You could pay the down payment with that money, and the rest will be paid from your salary and instead of paying rent, you would pay mortgage.

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If we have been fortunate to know how good decentralization brings us by bitcoin, why let it go?

Because not everyone is rich. Most of us live below the poverty line.

It is not possible for them to wait a long time by investing a huge amount of money.

for Bitcoin, yes it is absolutely profitable if you can do long-term holding but you can't say day-trading/bi-weekly trading, and short-term trading is not profitable.

It is a means of passive earning for all. Those who can't wait long term for their financial situation, they can still benefit from Bitcoin through short-term trading.

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Long term holders are all the time plan changers.When the price had increased the lot,they will sell huge and change the price in high number.Some people don’t know this,mostly the long term investors are become a whale.Their selling will be the price deciding all the time.This is because their huge amount of selling of coins ,when the price movement is positive after a huge time interval.



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