A Bitcointalk accounts seller advertising

[Cookdata]

I bumped into a thread opened by epiclux and the user is into selling social media accounts, but not just that, the user is into selling bitcointalk accounts.
I read and quote from mrprep rules about selling of accounts, I think those in charge should check.

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Twitter 20K followers - 60$
Twitter 2011-2013 ( 50-250 followers ) - 20$
Ticketmaster accounts 2017-2018 - 60$
reddit 1.5K+ karma ( 5 months aged ) - 20$
YouTube channel 1K+ subscribers - 100$
Amazon 2014-2015 with purchases history - 50$
BitcoinTalk 2021 - 10$
BitcoinTalk 2012 Legendary (1453 posts - 1300 Merits - 7+ Trust )  - 1500$
discord 2021 - 15$
Coinbase verified - 300$ (without documents) - 950$ with documents US
Gmail accounts 2013 - 5$

Payment Crypto Only
BULK order will get discounts
No login Details will send without Payment upfront
other Social Medias dm in telegram : epiclux

[noorman0]

Ignoring whether this user is actually a scammer or not, forum people's ratings on account sales are negative and are considered untrustworthy.

And in this case, considering how difficult it is to build a reputation, no one will actually sell an account with a positive trust score if he cares about the forum. The only account I've found that comes close to those specs is o_solo_miner (BPIP:most merit). And yeah, this offer comes from newbies who incidentally are all scammers, impersonators.

[BITCOIN4X]

Ignoring whether this user is actually a scammer or not, forum people's ratings on account sales are negative and are considered untrustworthy.

And in this case, considering how difficult it is to build a reputation, no one will actually sell an account with a positive trust score if he cares about the forum. The only account I've found that comes close to those specs is o_solo_miner (BPIP:most merit). And yeah, this offer comes from newbies who incidentally are all scammers, impersonators.

As I recall selling accounts is not frowned upon and will only invite DT for negative tags so mentioning the special features of the accounts being sold is no longer done by them. I might agree that this is a scammer's attempt to convince potential buyers, but sadly it's nothing out of the ordinary.

He could be selling fake accounts that might not be his, so I don't think it's not true to tag the accounts that closely match the traits listed unless there is suspicious activity on the account.

[The Cryptovator]

Tagged. I know it's not worthy to tag a newbie account offering Bitcointalk account sales, but there should be a warning that would be read by others. Likely he will create another account to advertise his account sales. We can't prevent them from actually creating multiple accounts. Most likely he is a scammer, asking for upfront payment. And other accounts would be hacked or botted. Everyone should avoid dealing with that guy.

[BITCOIN4X]

Tagged. I know it's not worthy to tag a newbie account offering Bitcointalk account sales, but there should be a warning that would be read by others. Likely he will create another account to advertise his account sales. We can't prevent them from actually creating multiple accounts. Most likely he is a scammer, asking for upfront payment. And other accounts would be hacked or botted. Everyone should avoid dealing with that guy.

Yes, now the account has got tag 2 from DT and it seems meaningful enough to make people think before making a transaction. In addition to asking for an upfront payment, I think without escrow it will also be very dangerous if someone is interested in buying Twitter or other accounts.

But I was totally shocked by the price of the Legendary, $1500 would someone really want to buy from it and entrust it with that kind of money?

[KingsDen]

My concern

You did well by identifying this unethical business in the forum but I have these two concerns;
1. You have indirectly advertised the supposed account sellers business. Especially with links to it, he can possibly have more customers or victims.
2. Should a highly trusted account be sellable, won't it cause a huge disaster in the forum?
I don't believe that the account with such specifications is available for sale. I also think the price is outrageous. Only someone with a scamming intention will patronise the seller.
I can be a bait to hack someone's account, please avoid that user.

[examplens]

Ignoring whether this user is actually a scammer or not, forum people's ratings on account sales are negative and are considered untrustworthy.

And in this case, considering how difficult it is to build a reputation, no one will actually sell an account with a positive trust score if he cares about the forum. The only account I've found that comes close to those specs is o_solo_miner (BPIP:most merit). And yeah, this offer comes from newbies who incidentally are all scammers, impersonators.

As I recall selling accounts is not frowned upon and will only invite DT for negative tags so mentioning the special features of the accounts being sold is no longer done by them. I might agree that this is a scammer's attempt to convince potential buyers, but sadly it's nothing out of the ordinary.

He could be selling fake accounts that might not be his, so I don't think it's not true to tag the accounts that closely match the traits listed unless there is suspicious activity on the account.

I was asking the seller for a link to a twitter account, maybe it could be of use to me for certain things. I honestly didn't even pay attention to his selling Bitcointalk accounts, among other things. I believe these are hacked accounts. hardly anyone would sell their personal account with 1300 merits, and it is even harder for farmers to collect that much merit.
however, he did not want to share the link, so I'm sure the accounts were hacked or stolen. there is no other reason to hide them.

[RapTarX]

I read and quote from mrprep rules about selling of accounts, I think those in charge should check.

No one is in charge. According to the forum rules, you can buy/sell account though that's discouraged (not frowned upon). But DT member doesn’t like account trading because it creates the hole to scam someone with previous reputation of the traded account.
We everyone are in charge. We can tag the account to keep note to ourselves so that we can avoid dealings insecurely with them. Therefore, I would recommend you to tag first.

[owlcatz]

My concern

You did well by identifying this unethical business in the forum but I have these two concerns;
~snip~

Your concerns are invalid -

1. You have indirectly advertised the supposed account sellers business. Especially with links to it, he can possibly have more customers or victims.

1. No - Not really, people will find what they want to find if they search.

2. Should a highly trusted account be sellable, won't it cause a huge.  disaster in the forum?

2. Yes. This is WHY I have tagged the account. I Will be watching, no worries

I don't believe that the account with such specifications is available for sale. I also think the price is outrageous. Only someone with a scamming intention will patronise the seller.  

To your 3 points above:

1. Probably not - Thats why its a likely scam.
2. Agreed, it's why it's another sign of a scam.
3. Of course, and it's why the account must be tagged, IMO.

I can be a bait to hack someone's account, please avoid that user.

  - Your google translate is failing you, ffs man...

[The Sceptical Chymist]

And in this case, considering how difficult it is to build a reputation, no one will actually sell an account with a positive trust score if he cares about the forum.

Assholes like this one who's selling a whole bunch of different accounts couldn't give a crap about this forum and probably not any forum or platform.  I tagged him, but it's unlikely to do any good since he's a newbie with only 13 posts.  Thanks to OP for pointing this out, however--it's better that members like him get painted red as fast as possible no matter what effect it may have.

I can be a bait to hack someone's account, please avoid that user.

  - Your google translate is failing you, ffs man...

Ugh....reminds me of 2015.  I need to take a cold shower.

[1miau]

The only account I've found that comes close to those specs is o_solo_miner (BPIP:most merit).

Since o_solo_miner is from our German local board, very trusted and I would not expect from him that he would sell his account, I'm in doubt if it's really the account in question.
I'll watch this account of course but keep in mind that the provided stats by the account seller might not be that accurate. Most likely, account sellers are not that dumb to get their accounts damaged before they are sold.
In addition: dt changes frequently and with it some trust scores. Year of registration seems to be inaccurate, too. There is no account from 2012 with matching Trust and Merit stats.

Similar accounts:

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=KTChampions 6 positive Trust, 1311 Merit, 7885 posts
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Darker45, 5 positive Trust, 1366 Merit, 5529 posts
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Piggy, 5 positive Trust, 1414 Merit (it's not Legendary yet but might be sold as such), 4618 posts
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=NLNico, 5 positive Trust, 1368 Merit, 1946 posts


Account seller tagged.

1. Probably not - Thats why its a likely scam.

Considering how unlikely it would be in my opinion, that o_solo_miner is for sale, you might be correct.

[UmerIdrees]

Considering how unlikely it would be in my opinion, that o_solo_miner is for sale, you might be correct.

Sometimes sellers don't have real accounts and they would tell you specs of some highly trusted accounts to gain a lot of money from you. Once you send them money, they will probably block you.
There is no need to dig the accounts which match the exact or similar stats because if he had the account, he would never let people guess and risk to get the account tagged.

[aysg76]

Tagged. I know it's not worthy to tag a newbie account offering Bitcointalk account sales, but there should be a warning that would be read by others. Likely he will create another account to advertise his account sales. We can't prevent them from actually creating multiple accounts. Most likely he is a scammer, asking for upfront payment. And other accounts would be hacked or botted. Everyone should avoid dealing with that guy.

For sure members can be awared if they see the negative trust ratings for these account sellers and don't involve in any business with them.This is the step we can take in the interest of forum members but have seen that sometimes newbies in hope of getting bounties and signature campaign on the forum might get attracted to these scams without giving notice to these tags and get scammed.So they need to be extra cautious with them and work on their own without involving in any shortcut.

Considering how unlikely it would be in my opinion, that o_solo_miner is for sale, you might be correct.

Yeah if you are saying you know the local board member then it could be the perfect scam case.This is the only way to attract some newbies by directing them towards such accounts mostly from local boards.Like this account is 2014 registered with 1346 merit and positive trust rating also.Once he got the payment he will not respond at all to the PM and scam will be executed.

My concern

You did well by identifying this unethical business in the forum but I have these two concerns;
1. You have indirectly advertised the supposed account sellers business. Especially with links to it, he can possibly have more customers or victims.

You can say he has also warned members to stay away from him and see he also got tagged by some members which would hinder his scam business.

Do you think he would not have reached others through the PM service as they message almost members to catch any one victim.There are some similar ways by which they approach you like this one in the past :



This is just one of those reference of these scams they want to conduct and will try to ask you to join them through PM also but if exposed the way @OP has then negative and red flags on their profile could surely put hit to their scam business.So this is not indirect advertising but exposing them to protect the newbie users from losing their money.

Assholes like this one who's selling a whole bunch of different accounts couldn't give a crap about this forum and probably not any forum or platform.  I tagged him, but it's unlikely to do any good since he's a newbie with only 13 posts.  Thanks to OP for pointing this out, however--it's better that members like him get painted red as fast as possible no matter what effect it may have.

Before the implementation of merit system there were many who were into this account selling business even the legendary rank and you could easily join the campaigns as post could be reported to moderators but controlling spam at this level was not so effective.But after merit system we have seen less of these account selling as if you don't have knowledge then it's no fun of having account on forum.But yes they should be immediately tagged so that others take it as warning not to do any scam selling although it's allowed but it's still discouraged.

[coupable]

But I was totally shocked by the price of the Legendary, $1500 would someone really want to buy from it and entrust it with that kind of money?

If someone knowing about how it's difficult to rank up a forum account with trusted rating, he would definitely conclude that the price is so cheap compared to its really value. Yes it's so cheap imo and i have my reasons saying this :
1. A legendary account can earn that amount in less than a year by just joining signature campaigns.
2. I remember there was a website in which you can check the average price of a specific bitcointalk account. And i remember that a trusted legendary account may reach more than 5000$.
By searching the web, you may find many people claiming to sell forum accounts. Be sure that old ranked accounts couldn't be sold unless they are hacked from their original owners.

[1miau]

Considering how unlikely it would be in my opinion, that o_solo_miner is for sale, you might be correct.

There is no need to dig the accounts which match the exact or similar stats because if he had the account, he would never let people guess and risk to get the account tagged.

You underestimate how dumb scammers are sometimes. 
At least for scams happening on Telegram, it's incredible how bad their scam attempts are.
And still people are sending them money...

Considering how unlikely it would be in my opinion, that o_solo_miner is for sale, you might be correct.

Yeah if you are saying you know the local board member then it could be the perfect scam case.This is the only way to attract some newbies by directing them towards such accounts mostly from local boards.

Yes, he was active yesterday and o_solo_miner's posting style hasn't changed at all, one more sign, that the account seller is a scammer and o_solo_miner is not for sale.

[Agbe]

I read and quote from mrprep rules about selling of accounts, I think those in charge should check.

I read it too, but I do not know why this forum allow such thing. They might cause two things which might also happened.  Account farming in which, person who is already a member (user) here will buy the account the and use it as his or her second account. And Scamming. The user might buy the account to scam others for his personal interest.
Although I don't know how it is modirated in the forum.

My advice to the buy, before he buys the account he should verify everything about the two accounts to avoid hacking and Police watchlist. We have to be careful of the online business we do. And the price place on the account is too low compared to the struggling of ranks in the forum. If the buyer buy the account with $1500 as a legendary account, he would gain that amount within 6 months to one year if he signed with a good signature.

[Erdogan]

The seller made it clear that he would disclose the account details only after payment. It is obvious that everything he wrote in the offer is made up and these accounts do not exist.
I am sure that even if someone offers him a trusted escrow, or even if someone let him choose an escrow himself, he will refuse.
Just don't waste your time looking for accounts as there is only air behind this offer.

[Pmalek]

The seller made it clear that he would disclose the account details only after payment. It is obvious that everything he wrote in the offer is made up and these accounts do not exist.

He might or might not have access to the account he is advertising. Only he knows that. The part where he doesn't want to disclose the name of the account before receiving the money can't be used as proof he doesn't have it. That's his way of protecting himself and his account from not getting tagged in case someone contacts him and asks him for information about the account and proof he owns it. In addition to that, even if he says he is selling account X, it doesn't mean he actually is. He could be trying to frame someone. Proving that he can post from the account is the only valid proof that he has got it.

[Erdogan]

The seller made it clear that he would disclose the account details only after payment. It is obvious that everything he wrote in the offer is made up and these accounts do not exist.

He might or might not have access to the account he is advertising. Only he knows that. The part where he doesn't want to disclose the name of the account before receiving the money can't be used as proof he doesn't have it. That's his way of protecting himself and his account from not getting tagged in case someone contacts him and asks him for information about the account and proof he owns it. In addition to that, even if he says he is selling account X, it doesn't mean he actually is. He could be trying to frame someone. Proving that he can post from the account is the only valid proof that he has got it.

You can also ask him to choose trusted escrow. I'm pretty sure he won't want any escrow.
Of course, as long as someone does not send him money, we will not find out who have right. However, I am almost sure that if someone sends him any money, he will simply disappear and a new offer will appear from another user with different accounts. In fact, we'll never find it out, so it's a waste of time.

[Coyster]

I read it too, but I do not know why this forum allow such thing.

Why the forum allows what? Account sales/account sellers, well only the admins can state the exact reason why, it could prolly be cause they do not see it as an offense worthy of a ban (as a matter of fact only very few things attract a ban in the forum), so users are only discouraged to do so as it could earn you a negative feedback from DT users, but that is as much that can be done.

My advice to the buy, before he buys the account he should verify everything about the two accounts to avoid hacking and Police watchlist. We have to be careful of the online business we do.

Lol, you sound like you are advising people to actually patronize this account seller. The advice should rather be that people should not buy or sell accounts, they should learn about Bitcoin and the forum and rank up all by themselves.

And the price place on the account is too low compared to the struggling of ranks in the forum.

It is much better to rank up out of your own knowledge than taking a 'cheap' shortcut, in the long run the former would always be the better choice.

If the buyer buy the account with $1500 as a legendary account, he would gain that amount within 6 months to one year if he signed with a good signature.

What if the account buyer gets tagged within the first few months, it is very difficult to cover up and post on a bought account, so many things would prolly expose you in the end, what then happens to the money the user used to buy it. Another thing is that account buyers are rarely good posters so they would struggle to even get into a good campaign managed by a good manager who scrutinizes the posts of his campaign participants.