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April 01, 2022, 06:22:51 AM
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Having played on several sportsbook platform's over the years both IRL and online,  I have noticed that most of these bookies
today don't have the " draw no bet" market. What could be their reasons for not giving us this market? Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?

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April 01, 2022, 07:46:32 AM
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I use to see draw no bet, which means if the team you choose to win either win, you will be credited as you win it, if the match is draw, your money will be given you back as you did not win or lose, but if the opponent wins, the bet is a lost one. The odd for win or draw is lower than draw no bet, but if the team draw in win or draw, the bettor still win. On the gambling site you are using, if you did not see draw no bet, better to go for win or draw which is very common.

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April 01, 2022, 08:20:22 AM
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Having played on several sportsbook platform's over the years both IRL and online,  I have noticed that most of these bookies
today don't have the " draw no bet" market. What could be their reasons for not giving us this market? Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?

This option create just two options for a bet, and it's more easy for the player win a bet in such condition, hence more bets to be payed by sportbook.
For what I have seen bigger bookmaker allow often this kind of bet for match with bigger teams/leagues.

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April 01, 2022, 10:15:17 AM
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This is a bet that usually benefits only the bettors and no huge deal for the bookmakers. Also, AFAIK these lines only appear on huge football matches, on huge tournaments only since the bookies can still make a huge profit on the said line. It's been months since I bet on a draw no bet line, and most of the time it's a win. Perhaps it's no longer profitable and beneficial to a bookie to have that line on their end.

Big bookies may still have that line, but those are probably not regular lines that bettors can place their bets on.
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April 01, 2022, 11:17:58 AM
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For me, it's the opposite I can easily bet on Draw no Bet when I want but I usually avoid them unless i'm not that confident on the team i'm betting on. From my experience, the draw no bet markets are usually located on the bottom page of the sportsbooks or in the parts where you have to dig deeper. Another alternative would be to take the +0 handicap if your bookie offers a wide range of asian handicaps.

What could be their reasons for not giving us this market? Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?
Most likely this is the reason and it's why they prioritize the 3-way markets by putting them at the top of the page or at the front for most gamblers to see.

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April 01, 2022, 12:39:51 PM
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Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?
This is the major reason IMO, economic situation are becoming tougher for most companies as inflation continues, the cost of running things are getting higher as well. If you have  noticed, apart from the exclusion of "Draw no bet" from most sportsbook, there has been also a reduction in the number of incentives and giveaways by most companies and sportsbook as they have turned to their primary purpose of making profit to keep them in business.

Most sportsbook that still offer that option either have huge funding or still do so mainly to attract customers to their platform not necessarily with the intention to make money.

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April 01, 2022, 01:02:23 PM
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This is a bet that usually benefits only the bettors and no huge deal for the bookmakers.
But the bettor can lose if he choose a team for draw no bet but the team failed, also if both teams played draw, the bettor will only be given back his money and no profit. The betting site will gain if the team choosen by bettor lost and the bettor will lose.

Also, AFAIK these lines only appear on huge football matches, on huge tournaments only since the bookies can still make a huge profit on the said line.
It depends on the matches you count as huge matches, there are many league clubs that are not in first 10 or 20 in world ranking but having draw no bet. I understood you though, it should be included in big matches for sure.

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April 01, 2022, 01:21:08 PM
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Having played on several sportsbook platform's over the years both IRL and online,  I have noticed that most of these bookies
today don't have the " draw no bet" market. What could be their reasons for not giving us this market? Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?

Let's analyse this :

If we are doing the probability of winning, loosing or draw, that leaves us with 3 outcomes which does mean that probability of a person betting would eventually be 1/3 in any winning instance. Which does mean that the person would have more options but at the same time the probability of winning would be less.
PROBABILITY OF WINNING 1/3
When we talk about the draw no bet, the draw generally leaves the whole equation which does mean that 1/2 would be the probability of winning, meaning they will have less choices but higher probability of winning.
I do think that the sports book generally leave this out so that they do not have to deal with this and the whole event is also more beneficial for them.
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April 01, 2022, 03:38:32 PM
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Perhaps it's no longer profitable and beneficial to a bookie to have that line on their end.


This may be a possibility because everyone in business wants profit and when an option will allow a bettor to go free from risk that they want to incur, then they might decide not allow that be a waste of time. That option looks like an unserious commitment for a bettor. Betting with "draw no bet" means a certain club must win and if the club come out of the game with draw, then no bet is taken. So is either the team wins or lose , limiting the bet site from taking the profit when it is draw.

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Having played on several sportsbook platform's over the years both IRL and online,  I have noticed that most of these bookies
today don't have the " draw no bet" market. What could be their reasons for not giving us this market? Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?

Draw no bet is exactly the same as +0 in the Asian handicap.  Go check your bookie if it has it.  Most likely it's there, and if not then it's prolly not worth betting anyway, esp if a match is so lopsided that the draw no bet option would be lined at 1.01 or something.  Lol.

Anyway, I've been trying to be wrong in the IQ test.  What would happen if my IQ goes to 0?  I won't be able to post for the day?

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April 01, 2022, 04:33:01 PM
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This is a bet that usually benefits only the bettors and no huge deal for the bookmakers.
But the bettor can lose if he choose a team for draw no bet but the team failed, also if both teams played draw, the bettor will only be given back his money and no profit. The betting site will gain if the team choosen by bettor lost and the bettor will lose.

It gives the bettor safer options than the bookmaker making money off of the bettor's choice, so it is, IMO, a line that is rarely a priority for the bookmaker to place in their platform. Compared to moneyline bets, draw no bet is more flexible in terms of profit in favor of the bettor, and not so much for the bookie. It has its drawbacks though, as it usually has odds that are just not worth it, but since it has a 'draw' mechanic in the bet, you will still take the risk and bet on it since in the event of a draw, you will still get your money back like nothing happened.
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April 01, 2022, 04:45:10 PM
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This is a bet that usually benefits only the bettors and no huge deal for the bookmakers. Also, AFAIK these lines only appear on huge football matches, on huge tournaments only since the bookies can still make a huge profit on the said line. It's been months since I bet on a draw no bet line, and most of the time it's a win. Perhaps it's no longer profitable and beneficial to a bookie to have that line on their end.

Big bookies may still have that line, but those are probably not regular lines that bettors can place their bets on.

I would like to know how this bet is beneficial for the better but not for the bookmaker  Roll Eyes In terms of mathematics, they are completely equivalent to Win 1 - Draw - Win 2 bets when the player divides his bet by two and, depending on the odds, bets on Win 1 - Draw or Win 2 - Draw. Therefore, the better can make such a bet even if it is not in the line.

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Having played on several sportsbook platform's over the years both IRL and online,  I have noticed that most of these bookies
today don't have the " draw no bet" market. What could be their reasons for not giving us this market? Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?
Every customizable option which may end returning money to bettors after a bet outcome, isn't interesting for casinos. That could be probably the reason why you don't see this feature too often.

Anyway, it's a matter of what gamblers demand from a gambling platform: if a considerable portion of gamblers start asking for "draw no bet" feature, one casino or another attempting to get more recognization on the industry will introduce this and then there are some chances more casinos will follow the same trend, aiming the public who is looking for the mentioned feature above.

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Gambling in the safest way is "Draw no bet", Tokeweed is right this is the same as Asian handicap. As far as I know most of the sites i've come across have a "Draw no bet" option depending on the game too, Stake and more, I wonder which gambling site @OP you bet on. I always choose a sportsbook gambling site that has many options for betting, it will provide experience and an opportunity to win.

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Having played on several sportsbook platform's over the years both IRL and online,  I have noticed that most of these bookies
today don't have the " draw no bet" market. What could be their reasons for not giving us this market? Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?

I guess it's just not as popular.

People like the fact that they can bet on the draw outcome, since it can often pay out quite well.

Having a draw no bet system basically means that you eliminate that option of people benefiting from a draw. Also, not a lot of gamblers are willing to wait the time it takes to rebet if it ended up being a draw.
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It's good option to escape from the loss.Usually in a bet, if you win.You will get won money from bookies.Incase you had loss, you may have to pay lost money.Its leads to your loss.Incase, the option of Draw No bet in your using gambling sportsbook.Then you are lucky, you also get back the money.Incase the game was on draw site.Unfortunately this option was not available in all the sportsbook.



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DuelBits and Stake mostly offers Draw no Bet selection on main games, you should go check alternative bookies for specific bet type. Checking odds comparison websites can help too for finding which websites offer best odds. Btw, Asian odds (0) is the same bet as draw no bet, you will get refunded if match ends draw. Checking the popular matches before it starts may help you finding which websites offer this type of selection and you can start digging the best on out of options, IMHO.

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Having played on several sportsbook platform's over the years both IRL and online,  I have noticed that most of these bookies
today don't have the " draw no bet" market. What could be their reasons for not giving us this market? Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?
If they don't have draw no bet, they almost always have Asian handicaps and that comes to the same thing. Just play Asian handicap 0 and that is it. I don't think I played in a bookie without that option in last couple of years.

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Having played on several sportsbook platform's over the years both IRL and online,  I have noticed that most of these bookies
today don't have the " draw no bet" market. What could be their reasons for not giving us this market? Could it be that it's a less money generating market for most sportsbooks out there?

If you look at it from another perspective - bookmakers are out here trying to make money, just like gamblers and this bet distorts the odds . There are so many games that end in a draw that it does not make sense for a bookmaker to offer this and it's amazing that they ever allowed it in the first place. It gives players an extra "out" opportunity that will have been taken advantage of by eagle eyed arbitrage betting and will make it harder to gauge the correct odds. It's much easier for them to offer straight bets with either a win or lose outcome, because even though the proportion of bets is likely to be small - it's just handing money back to the players without any costs being covered on the sports book side.

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April 02, 2022, 07:59:30 AM
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It gives the bettor safer options than the bookmaker making money off of the bettor's choice, so it is, IMO, a line that is rarely a priority for the bookmaker to place in their platform. Compared to moneyline bets, draw no bet is more flexible in terms of profit in favor of the bettor, and not so much for the bookie. It has its drawbacks though, as it usually has odds that are just not worth it, but since it has a 'draw' mechanic in the bet, you will still take the risk and bet on it since in the event of a draw, you will still get your money back like nothing happened.
I like the second you said about draw no bet 'that they come with small odds'. The smaller the odds the more chance to win, but the more someone play, the more someone have chance to lose huge amount of money. Draw no bet has no advantage than a means betting sites are earning more from bettors because if you have gone for win only, the odd will be more, if you won at ones, you get higher amount of profit, but if it is draw no bet, you can win 2 times and later lose one time which is sufficient enough to make someone lose than gain, though all types are risky but I prefer going for win.

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