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April 09, 2022, 01:10:30 AM
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Putin and the Chinese together couldn't beat the US. But they have enough stuff that the US really wouldn't win in an all-out war. Nobody wants war. What is going on is attempts to get the biggest share of the economy without a real war.

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April 09, 2022, 06:53:13 PM
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The Story of Mariupol
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April 09, 2022, 07:01:23 PM
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Anyway, Putin isn't going to step down from his presidency, he won't stop till he gets what he wants, or lose everything in the process. It's surprising that an army like Russia's is having such a hard time against Ukraine, they're supposedly a superpower.
Why do we all put the whole blame on Putin. We must Firstly understand why Putin is going into war against their neighbor Ukraine. Ukraine are building strong relationship with US, they also wants to be part of NATO. Which Russia consider to be a dangerous step, because they don't trust the US. Putin thinks he is probably protecting his country. Although, Ukraine is an independent country, and they have the right to join NATO.  Putin just want the US to stay far from Ukraine, and the war won't end until his had achieved that.



If Putin ends the war will end in about 2 more days. Putin is 69 so each day he has about a 1 in 4000 chance of dying.

So the war will last for at least 60 days (a guess) so a 60 in 4000 chance is about 1 in 66 chance to war ends simply because he died.

Not because he is assassinated but because he is ham and humans die and at the age of 69 the math is as above.

But if he was to stay alive longer say 2 or more  years Russia will eventually win the war and the world will be in two camps west vs east same as it ever was. Just like it was when I was a kid and Khurschev said he would bury USA

Meanwhile lots of oil prices at top dollar or ruble.

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April 09, 2022, 11:13:56 PM
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Russia currently has ~75% of its military capacity committed to Ukraine. Russia maintains its nukes, however, committing that much of its military is risky and will leave it vulnerable to invasion and/or military action from elsewhere.

Those that are fighting do not believe in this war. I don't think many will believe in fighting for their homeland in the event of an invasion if that were to happen.

both sides legitmately accuse each other of being Nazis and both sides legitmately disbelieve the Nazi accusation of the other,

Putin Believes Zelinski's Ukraine is Nazi because it surpresses Russian lingual autonomy, like the original Nazis that seeked to enslave Russia and eastern Europe

Zelinski Believes Putin is a Nazi because he stands up for "national interests" and because he uses violence to split countries in order to change the situation of lingual groups


on the other hand Zelinski disbelieves Putin's accusations of him being a Nazi because he is a Jew,
while Putin disbelieves Zelinski's and the Wests Accusation of Putin being Hitler because he lived his entire life fighting Nazis and raised his entire Country to be opposing Nazis.

thats the paradox

if you research this you will find it to be true

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April 23, 2022, 06:16:04 PM
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Russian forces on Saturday launched deadly missile strikes on targets in Odesa, hitting a residential neighborhood and inflicting the kind of civilian carnage the Black Sea port city had so far avoided in two months of fighting, Ukrainian officials said. At least six people were killed and another 18 wounded when two cruise missiles struck the residential area in the city’s west, and officials warned the toll would likely climb given the extent of the damage.  Cry
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April 24, 2022, 09:17:01 AM
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Russian forces on Saturday launched deadly missile strikes on targets in Odesa, hitting a residential neighborhood and inflicting the kind of civilian carnage the Black Sea port city had so far avoided in two months of fighting, Ukrainian officials said. At least six people were killed and another 18 wounded when two cruise missiles struck the residential area in the city’s west, and officials warned the toll would likely climb given the extent of the damage.  Cry
It's been two whole months now, I expect things to worsen after the fall of Mariupol. Odesa is next, and is in a vital location due to its port, conquering it would block Ukraine's access to the sea. Putin didn't capture Ukraine in a few days, like he expected, but he is steadily gaining ground in the region of Donbas, while his military advances are certainly going towards Odesa and Kharkiv, two major Ukrainian cities.

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April 24, 2022, 09:05:57 PM
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Russian forces on Saturday launched deadly missile strikes on targets in Odesa, hitting a residential neighborhood and inflicting the kind of civilian carnage the Black Sea port city had so far avoided in two months of fighting, Ukrainian officials said. At least six people were killed and another 18 wounded when two cruise missiles struck the residential area in the city’s west, and officials warned the toll would likely climb given the extent of the damage.  Cry
It's been two whole months now, I expect things to worsen after the fall of Mariupol. Odesa is next, and is in a vital location due to its port, conquering it would block Ukraine's access to the sea. Putin didn't capture Ukraine in a few days, like he expected, but he is steadily gaining ground in the region of Donbas, while his military advances are certainly going towards Odesa and Kharkiv, two major Ukrainian cities.
Ukraine does not need access to the sea. Ukraine is receiving its weapons and supplies from Poland, which shares a land border with Ukraine.

It is Russia that needs access to Ukraine via the sea in order to help resupply its troops.

Russia also had proxies already controlling the Dunbas area before the war even started, so "gaining ground" in this area is not much to speak for.
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May 13, 2022, 05:19:50 PM
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The war and invasion has been on for some time.
I hate the fact that Putin thinks he can just place threat of nuclear weapons, has he got the only weapon's?
It's even unwise of him to say how powerful he's nuclear weapons are deadly, as USA can even build a disarmer and one more dangerous the he's. Imposing war world three,he just have pride despite that he's dieing of he's act! What have the United Nations done to prevent this war ? Are they not meant for such situations like this ? Is it that they only wage inter conflict wars and not this ? They should please intervene.

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May 19, 2022, 02:12:12 PM
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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


As long as the US continues its sneaky, dirty tactics in Ukraine, which are aimed at conquering Russia for the one-world government.

The UN... a Russian play thing.



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May 19, 2022, 02:20:43 PM
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War is the last chance for a politician to stay in power, how bad was the Russian economy that caused Putin political suiside? How long is it going to take to step down from power or do Russians underestand he is just a paper tiger?! I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

I am sure that he will make this war last a long time until his goal is achieved, namely that part of Ukraine will fall into Russian hands. Or this could be completed at the G20 meeting to be held in Bali, Indonesia. Where Putin and Zelensky will meet and discuss their issues further.

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May 19, 2022, 03:07:18 PM
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Take this story with a grain of salt: https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/19/putins-inner-circle-believe-ukraine-war-is-lost-and-russia-faces-coup-16672422/

Putin's inner circle believes Ukraine war is lost. Putin ‘facing a coup after his closest allies accept they’ve lost the war’.

I would accept the premise given how miserable Russia's attempt at an invasion has gone, and the resilience of Ukraine. But also factoring in the global economy taking a nose dive and Russia's isolation from the global economy, there is not much left. They have not concerned Ukraine, their currency is becoming worthless, and major corporations have pulled out of the country for the foreseeable future. Hope Putin has hired some food testers.

Question remains, who is Russia's next leader? Will the mental fortitude be that of Putin, or perhaps less?
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Take this story with a grain of salt: https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/19/putins-inner-circle-believe-ukraine-war-is-lost-and-russia-faces-coup-16672422/

Putin's inner circle believes Ukraine war is lost. Putin ‘facing a coup after his closest allies accept they’ve lost the war’.

I would accept the premise given how miserable Russia's attempt at an invasion has gone, and the resilience of Ukraine. But also factoring in the global economy taking a nose dive and Russia's isolation from the global economy, there is not much left. They have not concerned Ukraine, their currency is becoming worthless, and major corporations have pulled out of the country for the foreseeable future. Hope Putin has hired some food testers.

Question remains, who is Russia's next leader? Will the mental fortitude be that of Putin, or perhaps less?


The real question is, who controls the buttons that launch the Russian nukes. Are those people faithful to Putin, or not? If Putin is dead, will they follow his orders to launch? Or not? Will they be able to nuke threaten the new leader to continue Putin's plans? Or not?

It isn't something simple like we like to think of it, as we look on from the outside. Remember, when the Soviet Union fell in 1991, it was the KGB that took over. Putin, as leader of that KGB, isn't so stupid that he will go out without plans in place. And nukes is only one thing he could have already set up.

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May 22, 2022, 08:38:12 PM
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It will only be stopped when Russia's economy is crippled and this will affect all it's citizens financial abilities then they will be forced to protest against his government, even tho it won't be an easy one for them because of Putin's cruel nature.
Most countries has withdrawn from it deal with rissia ,it has even affected most top business men from Russia, like the owner of chelsea football club having to sell off the club because of the affect of the war ,while putin is not ready to back down anytime soon even after the sanction on russia by top world power's.
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May 22, 2022, 09:35:17 PM
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There is a saying in my locality that goes, 'in every nonsense, there is an atom of sense'. I'm bring that up due to the subject title.

A lot of users are likely not to fined a sense in the on going war and why Russia might choose to push it further but there are others especially Russian nations who feels its necessary that it continues. Dont get me wrong, I'm not in any way in support of the on going violence between both nations but I am just saying, both nation feels threatened and so, they fight.

Russia fears a future invasion by the west and so they fight while, Ukraine feels there sovereignty as a nation is being threatened and the destruction of life and property is been done on there land hence, there is a need for the war.

Unfortunately, the war would continue in both nations until both nations feels safe enough.
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   I think also it's continue for a long period of time on their war Russian and Ukraine. I think it take 2 years that their war before it's gone until the realize that they don't have a any things,that they are wasting their time and, they are really one who destroy their country and  friendships. They just forget because of angry of their mind and their heart that they cannot seen the lighten if there's no people who put into the center.

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May 22, 2022, 09:39:37 PM
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There is a saying in my locality that goes, 'in every nonsense, there is an atom of sense'. I'm bring that up due to the subject title.

A lot of users are likely not to fined a sense in the on going war and why Russia might choose to push it further but there are others especially Russian nations who feels its necessary that it continues. Dont get me wrong, I'm not in any way in support of the on going violence between both nations but I am just saying, both nation feels threatened and so, they fight.

Russia fears a future invasion by the west and so they fight while, Ukraine feels there sovereignty as a nation is being threatened and the destruction of life and property is been done on there land hence, there is a need for the war.

Unfortunately, the war would continue in both nations until both nations feels safe enough.

War is not happening in Russia, yet.  

But you might be right, eventually, it will continue there.

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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


Putin can continue this war until Russia runs out of war material. Then Putin will use his nukes to ignite WW4... the cold war having been WW3.



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May 23, 2022, 08:30:23 AM
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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


Putin can continue this war until Russia runs out of war material. Then Putin will use his nukes to ignite WW4... the cold war having been WW3.

I think eventually he’ll face enough internal pressure to stop this war. It hasn’t gone well for him and his people are suffering. Plus, there are rumors of his health being an issue. I don’t think his successor will want to continue this if Putin was unable to continue leading his country. Who knows when that is, but we’ve got to be getting close.

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May 23, 2022, 08:48:45 AM
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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


Putin can continue this war until Russia runs out of war material. Then Putin will use his nukes to ignite WW4... the cold war having been WW3.

I think eventually he’ll face enough internal pressure to stop this war. It hasn’t gone well for him and his people are suffering. Plus, there are rumors of his health being an issue. I don’t think his successor will want to continue this if Putin was unable to continue leading his country. Who knows when that is, but we’ve got to be getting close.
People in Russia are generally smart enough to understand a simple thing - the only chance for Russia is the complete success of the operation in Ukraine with the achievement of all stated goals. History is written by the winners, not the losers. And the stronger the external pressure from the West, the more loyal the Russians are to the current government. Therefore, I would not count on the growth of internal pressure on Putin.

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May 23, 2022, 09:00:37 AM
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War is the last chance for a politician to stay in power, how bad was the Russian economy that caused Putin political suiside? How long is it going to take to step down from power or do Russians underestand he is just a paper tiger?! I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

Putin has been in power for 22 years and counting, do you honestly think this was wasn't a calculated risk? Putin might be many things but being sensless isn't one of his qualities. it takes much more than just charisma, being a good orator and what have you to rule a country as autocratic as Russia for this long with no one to challenge. War or no War!! in my own opinion, Putin is going no where.
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