PRIMEDICE weak self-exclusion system

[gero2021]

Hello, I have been betting for a long time, and a few months ago I realized that I have problems to stop doing it.

I decided that the best way to stop was to request self-exclusion from the sites I was betting on.

I got to self-exclude myself from primedice, the problem is that after a while, I relapsed and wanted to bet again, and primedice let me create a new account, and bet again. this time, i lost 21600 xrp and a bit of some other coins




This post is not to recover my coins, (although I would like that), but to see the possibility that the sites begin to block not only the accounts, but also the IPs from which those accounts were connected.

Greetings to everybody and thanks

[joeperry]

The problem is not the PrimeDice, the problem is within you. If you really want to stop gambling you should help yourself not to play again or seek professional if you really can't control it and upon checking the PrimeDice policy about Self-exclusion here's what I found:

You should not attempt or proceed to open any new accounts during your self-exclusion period, or indefinitely if a permanent self-exclusion has been selected.

[gero2021]

The problem is not the PrimeDice, the problem is within you. If you really want to stop gambling you should help yourself not to play again or seek professional if you really can't control it and upon checking the PrimeDice policy about Self-exclusion here's what I found:

You should not attempt or proceed to open any new accounts during your self-exclusion period, or indefinitely if a permanent self-exclusion has been selected.

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

[joeperry]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

Yes I understand that you wanted them to improve their self-exclusion service but wouldn't that be better if you send it to them directly and give a feedback to their system so they can work on it as soon as possible or maybe in their announcement thread?

[Chikito]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

maybe you can reduce your addiction by playing casinos using not real money like a demo or game from android. I'm not so sure you can either, but no harm to trying than your money runs out. it's just a matter of fun, If you continue and keep it fun, you will get used to it after a while.

[gero2021]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

Yes I understand that you wanted them to improve their self-exclusion service but wouldn't that be better if you send it to them directly and give a feedback to their system so they can work on it as soon as possible or maybe in their announcement thread?

Yes. I am putting it together to send it to them, but I hope that this post will also serve for other sites, since I noticed that in almost all of them, the exclusion is not by IP, it is by individual account,

[Zackgeno96]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

Yes I understand that you wanted them to improve their self-exclusion service but wouldn't that be better if you send it to them directly and give a feedback to their system so they can work on it as soon as possible or maybe in their announcement thread?

Yes. I am putting it together to send it to them, but I hope that this post will also serve for other sites, since I noticed that in almost all of them, the exclusion is not by IP, it is by individual account,

Might be a good idea too if they make a system ban? I think I heard that before that even if you use VPN you are still banned from the gambling site. The Idea about not playing with real money is probably not a good idea since it would only makes you play with a real money with it as the time goes by, it happened to me when I am playing with casino free token.

[gero2021]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

maybe you can reduce your addiction by playing casinos using not real money like a demo or game from android. I'm not so sure you can either, but no harm to trying than your money runs out. it's just a matter of fun, If you continue and keep it fun, you will get used to it after a while.

what is working best for me now is to reduce or hinder access to my funds, at some point I will try to put together a post with tips to help others with the same problem

[Mahdirakib]

Yes. I am putting it together to send it to them, but I hope that this post will also serve for other sites, since I noticed that in almost all of them, the exclusion is not by IP, it is by individual account,

AFAIK, casino doesn't block the IP address if any user request for self-exclusion. Addicted gamblers (like you) will always try to find a way to create a new account to continue the betting habit. It isn't so hard to change the IP address by using some services. So, you should go through counselling to get the best solution. Tell your close people about your problem, so that they can help you to get rid of this addiction. Or you can get advice from https://www.begambleaware.org/

Check this topic to find more platform to get rid of your gambling habit: Gambling issues? Read this!

[gero2021]

Yes. I am putting it together to send it to them, but I hope that this post will also serve for other sites, since I noticed that in almost all of them, the exclusion is not by IP, it is by individual account,

AFAIK, casino doesn't block the IP address if any user request for self-exclusion. Addicted gamblers (like you) will always try to find a way to create a new account to continue the betting habit. It isn't so hard to change the IP address by using some services. So, you should go through counselling to get the best solution. Tell your close people about your problem, so that they can help you to get rid of this addiction. Or you can get advice from https://www.begambleaware.org/

Check this topic to find more platform to get rid of your gambling habit: Gambling issues? Read this!

Thank you

[Kakmakr]

Blocking the IP will not work, because a person can simply get a burner phone through a new Service provider and he will be set to go... and I have seen some hard-core gambling addicts going to extreme methods to keep on gambling. (VPNs...etc)

You will have to go for rehabilitation and get some help for your gambling addiction... and that too is not a fool proof method to get you to stop.    

The self-exclusion will make things more difficult for you, but it will not make it impossible. You might get blocked from one site, but there are 100s of other sites where you can join again.  

Stake.com is a partner site for PrimeDice and I have seen people who was self-excluded and they complained that they still received the promotions via email. (So make sure that you stop that too... even if you setup a mail filtering rule to delete it or to move it to the junk folder)

[robelneo]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

Yes I understand that you wanted them to improve their self-exclusion service but wouldn't that be better if you send it to them directly and give a feedback to their system so they can work on it as soon as possible or maybe in their announcement thread?

He should have done that, this thread is more of accusing or exposing them than recommending them to improve their self-exclusion when in the first place it's just one option for you, not the main option, your main option is still how to deal with your gambling addiction or getting help from your family, you can get a good anti-virus and block all casinos and not putting the blame on casinos.

[Woodie]

What exactly is self exclusion suppose to do? Is it not to stop that particular account from having gambling access once this request is done... if someone has access to their first account then there is a problem but reading that you created a new account then that means Primedice played their part well such that you went to the extent of creating a new account to bypass this barrier. Banning IPs is not the answer, not even KYC would deny someone this access to the platform.

The best resolution should start with the player to resist the temptation of gambling.

[YOSHIE]

I decided that the best way to stop was to request self-exclusion from the sites I was betting on.

You should be aware, when you want to stop betting on the primedice site and exclude your first account, that's when everyone has a greedy and uncontrollable nature in making bets, have hope, the second account can bring luck, in fact the second account also suffers the same fate, some of your coins run out in bets.

You should have taken a lesson from the beginning before creating a second account, the primedice site is no longer convenient for you, but what can I say, everything has happened, maybe this can be a lesson for you and also others including me, never have instincts as if other accounts have luck for us.

[Bitinity]

Yes. I am putting it together to send it to them, but I hope that this post will also serve for other sites, since I noticed that in almost all of them, the exclusion is not by IP, it is by individual account,

Even if a casino block your original IP, you still can create a new account by changing your IP through VPN or other things when you want to come back. Once you requested a self-exclusion, you should try your own best to stay away. The key is on yourself, if you feel that you have a gambling problem, so you should find the best way to overcome it.

How if you make a huge profit in your new account? Will you create a thread like this to suggest the casino to improve the self-exclusion system? Why dont you suggest it once you realized that you can create new account or before you make the new deposit?

[bittraffic]

No self exclusion will work if you got the itch to bet again. I have the same feeling a year ago but fight back because I know I have no money to keep doing the martingale.

Why do you have to create an account? You may have been reminded about the time you tried excluding yourself if you just tried recovering your account 😁 and maybe you'll realize you exclude because you want to stop.

[fiulpro]

Hi!
It's essential to know that you can also block any specific site through your browser directly which would mean that this would increase your chances of staying away from the gambling sites you usually use as well.
At the same time every site does have different relationships with their exclusion system therefore you might have to stop, take a deep breath and then you have to actually get special help, you have to try and get the professional help because gambling related additions are still addiction which needs not only medications but it also needs professional attention as well, therefore I would advice you to look at your governmental system and see if you can actually find a way to get it for free, most of the countries do offer free healthcare especially for gambling addiction.
I would advice you to find help online first if you are not really comfortable with going to the doctor directly. Hopefully you will be able to get through it !

[NeuroticFish]

I got to self-exclude myself from primedice, the problem is that after a while, I relapsed and wanted to bet again, and primedice let me create a new account

The thing is:
* if your IP is blocked, there are many ways to go around that
* if your user or browser is blocked, it's even easier to go around it
* if you get thought how to block those websites from your devices, you will use that knowledge to unblock yourself or find another device

All in all, this direction cannot bring you anywhere, so you have to work on beating your addiction for good.

And maybe this helps: the problem as I see it is not that you get the itch of gambling now and then; the problem is that you don't know when to stop/playing too much money.
Maybe you get help in not having too much money (in any form) at hand for gambling? It could be another direction.

[Gozie51]

I got to self-exclude myself from primedice, the problem is that after a while, I relapsed and wanted to bet again, and primedice let me create a new account, and bet again. this time, i lost 21600 xrp and a bit of some other coins

This same relapsing may still happen if an addict has not taken total control of themselves even if your Ip was blocked. You need to seek help first and you see you will be fine. Losing that amount of ripple is really a thing for you to watch your gambling addiction because it is really high. Calm your pulse and desire to always gamble, the gambling site isn't your problem because if they successfully stop you from gambling on their site (which may not be possible ) you will end up looking out for another site. Seek for help first, you can be fine.

[ipanks]

Sounds like you do need some help with your gambling problem. Nothing will stop you from gambling because you will always be able to find a way to continue gambling. So, in this case, we can only offer suggestions for changing your lifestyle, trying to find other positive activities unrelated to games, or hanging out with your friends and doing something different. Maybe Primedice won't do anything and neither will other gambling sites because they think it's useless if it's not you who will try to prevent the gambling problem from reappearing.