Is Putin at risk of being stopped by his own military Generals

[StanCrypt]

] Oleksiy Danilov, head of Ukraine’s security council, said 'eight Russian commanders have been fired since the start of the conflict amid heavy losses on the battlefield'.  one of which is General Roman Gavrilov, 45, the Duputy head of National Guard Unit who has suffered major losses in Ukraine is canned amid claims he 'leaked information that led to loss of life's and 'squandered fuel'.

I think this is the first of many unpatriotic acts that we will expect from Putin's own generals because frankly, this war is costing them a lot of money and the average Russian soldier doesn’t believe they are on some weird quest for the Holy Grail in Ukraine.
what are your thoughts on this?

[DrBeer]

One of the key problems of Russia is total lies and theft! They lie to the world community, they lie to their population, they lie to the president, the president lies to the population. For us, this turned out to be a positive factor - the lie about "the second most powerful army in the world" played into our hands, and, of course, the support of the world community. Putin wanted to hear beautiful "tales" about the "great and invincible army of Russia" - they were given to him, in return they received multibillion-dollar budgets that were stolen. The result was an under-army, at best marauders and murderers, but not warriors. And now the process has begun - the search for the guilty. Putin blames the generals, they transfer the blame to each other .. Someone says - we warned (and there were those who warned about the risks of unleashing a war against Ukraine), you did not listen to us ...

[Doan9269]

Russia-sacks-one-generals-amid-claims-leaked-information-led-loss-life.html] on March 18,  Russia reportedly fired one of its top generals as the country's invasion of Ukraine continues to be met with fierce resistance. General Roman Gavrilov, 45, the Duputy head of National Guard Unit who has suffered major losses in Ukraine is canned amid claims he 'leaked information that led to loss of life's and 'squandered fuel'.

I think this is the first of many unpatriotic acts that we will expect from Putin's own generals because frankly, this war is costing them a lot of money and the average Russian soldier doesn’t believe they are on some weird quest for the Holy Grail in Ukraine.
what are your thoughts on this?

Putin need to understand that this live has to be taken with ease, even the giant do fall atimes and i see a nearest future whereby the government in Russia may end up on a coup, whereby the government will be taken off the shoulder of Putin because we have it in the past history, looking into the story of Mohammed Gadaffi is worth giving a practical lesson alone. Am rest assured this war will landed in an ugly part on Putin than he had expected sooner.

[Leviathan.007]

To answer the question of if Putin is at risk by his own military generals we should learn about the history and the other similar people like Putin who were in the same situation, since he usually doesn't listen to his people and does not pay attention to what they need and instead he always try to act like a bully, also he doesn't consider the economic situation of this people even if they have nothing to eat, there are many people who are against him and we cannot surprize if of them these people who are against him is one of the military generals and tries to get the control of the government by coup d'état against him.

[Flexystar]

If financial loss continues like this, then yes I am pretty sure there might be some internal pressure on putin to stop the war or either come to an agreement where they at least pull back for sometime.

Everyday the war continues the picture and Putin's intentions are changing whenever I discuss this with my friends. Everyone has different views. I mean look at the Ukraine right now, its just barren land now and there is nothing elft.

Even if Putin gets hold of Ukraine he will have to:

1) Pay for the entire infrastructure in the Ukraine
2) Re-build the whole system
3) Convince left over Ukrainians and also Russian's to move towards Ukraine if they wanna live their. (Highly doubt they will step in there).
4) He will have to recover the war losses.

As from the past wars, we know very well each and every nation had to start over. But anyways they never learn.

[asus09]

I can't give an answer that Putin was stopped by his military general himself, but if we look at the history of the dispute between Russia and Ukraine, it is possible that the military will stop this war, because relations between the two countries that used to go well, the military has already no longer want to take the lives of their own brothers, very sorry for the selfishness of the leader causing many deaths.

[riso2015]

Is Putin at risk of being stopped by his own military general, in my opinion, if Putin has not appealed to discuss peace with Ukraine, it is most likely that the military general will take the decision, because there have been many casualties during the Russo-Ukrainian war, even 50% Ukrainian businesses closed completely, the remaining businesses today are small businesses.

[hugeblack]

I don't know, but the idiot is the one who thinks that you can enter a war and expect a quick profit.

As for losses, there are no accurate statistics and all sources of information come to us from non-neutral parties and from American intelligence, which may be misleading and untrue.

The reality now is that there is a war going on and people without fault are suffering, the focus should be to stop this war and start real peace negotiations without sending more troops from Russia or more weapons from the West.

The absence of a real desire for peace will mean the continuation of the meaning of acquittal for the longest possible period.

[istiak2277]

] Oleksiy Danilov, head of Ukraine’s security council, said 'eight Russian commanders have been fired since the start of the conflict amid heavy losses on the battlefield'.  one of which is General Roman Gavrilov, 45, the Duputy head of National Guard Unit who has suffered major losses in Ukraine is canned amid claims he 'leaked information that led to loss of life's and 'squandered fuel'.

I think this is the first of many unpatriotic acts that we will expect from Putin's own generals because frankly, this war is costing them a lot of money and the average Russian soldier doesn’t believe they are on some weird quest for the Holy Grail in Ukraine.
what are your thoughts on this?

Firstly most of the Russians force fighting in Ukraine war are mercenary. Though there are some Chechen, VDV and some other Russians special force operator fighting in Ukraine but most of them are mercenary force from Wagner and other contractors. So this war is really costly for Russia. But main Russians force yet to be deployed so i think those lose can be tolerated.

Its not new for CIA to bribe Russian generals so it won't be a surprise if they try to overthrow Putin. I think they have already trying that but there is very little chance they will be succeed. Putin has a strong support from Russian people, at least data shows something like that.

[Hydrogen]

Putin's generals are looting and pillaging ukraine as they invade. Increasing their personal wealth, power and prosperity.

Being in a position of power and influence, they may also be accepting bribes from the united states, NATO and other parties. Which could explain some of the more bizarre and irrational moves the russian army has made. Digging trenches in radioactive chernobyl for one. Of course, they say never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence. There isn't necessarily a conspiracy in place. Its simply the idle workings of my mind trying to assemble the puzzle pieces of what Zelensky did with the billions funneled to him by the USA.

None of the russian general have the influence and fame to directly challenge Putin, in my opinion. There isn't anyone famous enough, who the russian people adore enough to make that move.

And why would they want to challenge Putin when they can loot and pillage ukraine to increase their own personal wealth simply by following orders.

[Wexnident]

I don't think so. If generals were the only thing that was needed to stop Putin, pretty sure this war would've been over long ago. He's probably lost a lot, but maybe that's why we haven't seen any sort of possibility for this war to end because even with all the losses he got, he's still going at it pretty strong (in a bad way ofc). I honestly don't know if he's planning on fully achieving his goal or just trying to wait and see if he can recoup the losses that he got from the start till now (which is nigh impossible imo).

[Tony116]

The news we are reading on social networks is just one-way information and certainly the communication channels of the two sides have been bribed. The truth will never be known, it's all just our speculation.
Russia will not stop until the goal is achieved while Ukraine constantly receives weapons aid from the West. Recent negotiations have almost broken down as the two sides continue to accuse each other, the war will definitely not end any time soon.

[Zilon]

In wars like this there will certainly come a point  where personal interest will surpass the collective aim of the country.  Following  the closeness of this two countries it won't  be surprising  to find Russian soldiers whose origin is of Ukraine and will want to secure the lives of their loved ones.

Gradually Putin is losing his safety because despite  how much he puts in place to monitor his generals he will not have an accurate  statistics of Ukrainian intels working  against  him in the Russian military

[qwertyup23]

In wars like this there will certainly come a point  where personal interest will surpass the collective aim of the country.  Following  the closeness of this two countries it won't  be surprising  to find Russian soldiers whose origin is of Ukraine and will want to secure the lives of their loved ones.

Gradually Putin is losing his safety because despite  how much he puts in place to monitor his generals he will not have an accurate  statistics of Ukrainian intels working  against  him in the Russian military

I think I read somewhere that there were Russian troops defecting and intentionally not following the orders of Putin, as they really realized the consequence of this war.

Unfortunately, lots of unnecessary bloodshed happened in the past weeks due to this far. Infrastructures were destroyed; residential areas are now unhabitable; and other medical facilities are absolutely desecrated. Not to mention, the economy and finances of Russia have been slowly deteriorating due to the recent pull-out of Western influences and businesses in their country. It is just about time that Putin's own army, generals, and military would turn agains him due to this massacre.

I just really hope that there may be some sort of agreement that can end this war.

[cabron]

So they are really up to regime change in Russia like Biden said. The strategy though only works for the Middle Eastern countries.

The more Russians are not suffering with no wheat and oil, they may even feel pity for the Ukrainians if they just put down their weapons and make a deal to.stop this war. There is no way they can win this, before all the rest of Ukraine end up a pile of ruble, wake Zelensky up to stop playing hero because it only works in social media.

Its Zelensky who needs to hide before  Ukrainians realized and wake up and tie him to send to Putin.

[Sterbens]

What the Ukrainian government needs to do is immediately instigate the sacked general to stage a coup? and setting up troops behind the scenes? I'm not sure it can be realized that easily. However, nothing is impossible when the ceasefire agreement has not materialized until now. Does anyone know what the response of the generals who have been sacked will be and what is the attitude and support for Ukraine? I still don't know for sure either.

Do incitement as usual and prepare a Coup !!!!

[kryptqnick]

I do hope that a coup will be staged in Russia. If the coup becomes successful, this would be great for Ukraine because it's, frankly, hard to find a worse leader of a neighboring empire right now. If it's not successful, it will still cause social internal unrest in Russia, and that will help divert Russia from the external war (let's keep in mind that Russia pulled out from WW1 because of the civil war). There are signs that there are different political ambitions between different people in Russia already (Girkin, Peskov, and Kadirov, to name a few). But it seems that there isn't enough pressure to overthrow a wildly supported and wildly paranoid leader yet.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

One of the key problems of Russia is total lies and theft! They lie to the world community, they lie to their population, they lie to the president, the president lies to the population.

I'm not defending Russia's politicians here, but those accusations could easily be leveled against my government, your government (wherever you are), and pretty much every government out there.  World leaders don't rise to power and remain there by telling the truth, because that isn't what people want to hear.  And there's a lot of secrecy within governmental powers as a matter of security, which is why no government is completely transparent.  So while Russia does indeed lie to the world and all of that, that isn't the main issue here.

The issue is the will of Putin to continue his aggression against Ukraine, and with respect to the topic of this thread I'd love it if there were an internal rebellion amongst his generals (or anyone else in Russia's military).  I just don't think that's going to happen--if it did, it would certainly be groundbreaking stuff.  Has that ever happened in Russia's history before?

[Fortify]

] Oleksiy Danilov, head of Ukraine’s security council, said 'eight Russian commanders have been fired since the start of the conflict amid heavy losses on the battlefield'.  one of which is General Roman Gavrilov, 45, the Duputy head of National Guard Unit who has suffered major losses in Ukraine is canned amid claims he 'leaked information that led to loss of life's and 'squandered fuel'.

I think this is the first of many unpatriotic acts that we will expect from Putin's own generals because frankly, this war is costing them a lot of money and the average Russian soldier doesn’t believe they are on some weird quest for the Holy Grail in Ukraine.
what are your thoughts on this?

Due to the way Putin has isolated himself and is likely protected by a very select security team, while being kept in physically secure locations, it is unlikely that external visitors would have the ability to get close enough to take him out. There is no way anyone could arrest him, so that would be the only action available. He is at Hitler levels of paranoia and that probably plays a large part in why his advisors have been able to deceive him about how "successful" the war was during the first few weeks where the Russian army was being destroyed all over. His personal protection is likely quite effective and he has a huge entourage inspecting his safety on the very sporadic cases he is seen in public now, so it's unlikely any weapons can get close to him - it'd require one of those close protection officers, who have huge loyalty, to turn on him. These disgruntled staff members probably have little to back them up after they fall foul of the Kremlin.

[goldkingcoiner]

Not really sure what this has anything to do with economics but I will try to give an answer anyway.

Theres a reason why Putin has been in hiding in his secret bunker or why he fired cooks or why he won't talk to anyone personally and when he does talk face to face with a select few people, then there is always a loooong table between him and whomever he is speaking to.

He does not trust anyone. Because he knows the amount of enemies he made in the world. I am sure his Generals want him dead too.