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April 09, 2022, 08:26:54 AM
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G20 at a glance;

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The G20 is a multilateral cooperation forum consisting of 19 major countries and the European Union (EU). The G20 represents more than 60% of the world's population, 75% of global trade and 80% of the world's GDP. The G20 members consist of South Africa, United States of America, Saudi Arabia, Argentina, Australia, Brazil, India, Indonesia, United Kingdom, Italy, Japan, Germany, Canada, Mexico, Republic of Korea, Russia, France, China, Turkey and the European Union.

this time the host of the G20 is Indonesia. but Indonesia is in a bit of trouble because the US threatens to boycott the G20 if Russia is invited

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/us-russia-g20-meetings-boycott-b2052636.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/yellen-says-russia-should-be-expelled-g20-us-may-boycott-some-meetings-2022-04-06/

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"President Biden's made it clear... that it cannot be business as usual for Russia in any of the financial institutions," Yellen said.

"He's asked that Russia be removed from the G20, and I've made clear to my colleagues in (presidency holder) Indonesia that we will not be participating in a number of meetings if the Russians are there."

I'm curious about what steps the Indonesian government should take to melt the hearts of the US, because this is an important meeting for the future of the global economy.

Besides that, Indonesia will definitely be embarrassed in front of the world, if the G20 meeting which will be held in Bali, Indonesia is canceled.
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April 09, 2022, 09:28:35 AM
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G20 at a glance;

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The G20 is a multilateral cooperation forum consisting of 19 major countries and the European Union (EU). The G20 represents more than 60% of the world's population, 75% of global trade and 80% of the world's GDP. The G20 members consist of South Africa, United States of America, Saudi Arabia, Argentina, Australia, Brazil, India, Indonesia, United Kingdom, Italy, Japan, Germany, Canada, Mexico, Republic of Korea, Russia, France, China, Turkey and the European Union.

this time the host of the G20 is Indonesia. but Indonesia is in a bit of trouble because the US threatens to boycott the G20 if Russia is invited

Code:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/us-russia-g20-meetings-boycott-b2052636.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/yellen-says-russia-should-be-expelled-g20-us-may-boycott-some-meetings-2022-04-06/

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"President Biden's made it clear... that it cannot be business as usual for Russia in any of the financial institutions," Yellen said.

"He's asked that Russia be removed from the G20, and I've made clear to my colleagues in (presidency holder) Indonesia that we will not be participating in a number of meetings if the Russians are there."

I'm curious about what steps the Indonesian government should take to melt the hearts of the US, because this is an important meeting for the future of the global economy.

Besides that, Indonesia will definitely be embarrassed in front of the world, if the G20 meeting which will be held in Bali, Indonesia is canceled.

everything woke america is touching is now becoming a joke, even if they get desantis somehow elected in their corrupt election system, it won't make america being a serious global speaker or actor again, they will continue to becoming a bigger and bigger joke.

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If you look at the current conditions, Indonesia as a non-aligned country is at stake. How come? Indonesia must choose between the two world axis countries such as America/Europe and Russia/China, but considering their role as a non-aligned country, Indonesia must be able to position itself between the two axes. The Indonesian foreign minister is currently traveling to various European countries and China to be able to discuss the best decisions going forward. But what is certain is that Indonesia will continue to invite Russia to attend the G20. And if America and its allies are not present at this summit, Indonesia will most likely become their new enemy.

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Reported by AFP, Thursday (30/6/2022), Indonesia hosted the G20 Summit. The planned presence of Russian President Vladimir Putin has been in the spotlight after the conflict in Ukraine.

"We hope Canada and all the members of the G7 will attend the G20," Trudeau said when asked if Canada would attend even if Putin did.

Canada has confirmed that it will attend, but the US is still unable to confirm whether it will attend.
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November 14, 2022, 01:50:18 PM
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https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1592140652619665411?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://twitter.com/UrugwiroVillage/status/1592076193393971200?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://twitter.com/business/status/1592090773226676225?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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The plans for a sweeping, multinational ports and rail deal come at a critical time. To counter China’s Belt and Road global infrastructure push, Biden is pitching Washington as an alternative partner for and investor in developing countries at the G20, especially in the Indo-Pacific region.

It also comes as the Biden administration seeks a broader diplomatic deal in the Middle East that would have Saudi Arabia recognise Israel. The negotiations over a multi-country infrastructure deal were first reported by Axios.

Beyond the diplomatic implications, officials said they hoped such an infrastructure deal could reduce shipping times, cost and the use of diesel and would make trade faster and cheaper.
Read More: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/08/india-us-and-saudi-arabia-in-talks-on-rail-and-ports-deal-linking-gulf-and-south-asia

China is one of the members of the G20 and the quote from the article above is one of the discourses produced during the last G20 summit in India, the USA will be one of the drivers of this discourse, personally I doubt this plan will be successful, I think this discourse will weaken China's trade control.
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September 12, 2023, 06:53:37 AM
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According to some recent news articles, Indonesia has been conducting a diplomatic blitz to persuade the US and other Western leaders to attend the summit, despite their boycott threats over Russia’s involvement in Ukraine. Indonesia’s foreign minister said that they respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, but they also want to maintain dialogue and cooperation with Russia as a G20 member.

And it seems that Indonesia’s efforts have paid off, as some Western leaders have signaled confirmation of their attendance at the summit. https://www.voanews.com/a/following-indonesia-s-diplomatic-blitz-western-leaders-say-they-ll-attend-g-20-bali-summit-/6640915.html

However, the situation is still tense and unpredictable, so Indonesia will have to balance its role as a host and a mediator between the conflicting parties.
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September 12, 2023, 09:31:30 AM
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According to some recent news articles, Indonesia has been conducting a diplomatic blitz to persuade the US and other Western leaders to attend the summit, despite their boycott threats over Russia’s involvement in Ukraine. Indonesia’s foreign minister said that they respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, but they also want to maintain dialogue and cooperation with Russia as a G20 member.

And it seems that Indonesia’s efforts have paid off, as some Western leaders have signaled confirmation of their attendance at the summit. https://www.voanews.com/a/following-indonesia-s-diplomatic-blitz-western-leaders-say-they-ll-attend-g-20-bali-summit-/6640915.html

However, the situation is still tense and unpredictable, so Indonesia will have to balance its role as a host and a mediator between the conflicting parties.
It is difficult to be a mediator between the Ukraine vs Russia war because both countries are trying hard to protect their respective interests, not only Indonesia has tried to be a mediator but Arab countries have tried several times to mediate the Ukraine vs Russia war but have always failed.

Based on several news articles I read, the world economy has lost $1.6 trillion since the war between the two countries began.

I am sure that even several summits will not be able to reduce tensions between the two countries, each country in the world is obliged to be on full alert and make maximum efforts to protect their economy.

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September 12, 2023, 10:00:54 AM
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I'm curious about what steps the Indonesian government should take to melt the hearts of the US, because this is an important meeting for the future of the global economy.

Besides that, Indonesia will definitely be embarrassed in front of the world, if the G20 meeting which will be held in Bali, Indonesia is canceled.
Why should Indonesia obey the US and comply with what does not make Indonesia profitable? If Indonesia is a country that has principles, justice, laws and regulations that they implement themselves. So why try to be hypocritical and soften US hearts just to avoid threats? say it firmly because that way Indonesia will have self-respect in the eyes of the world.

Whether or not there is a threat from the US, are we as citizens asking to live off the US economy? NO

Does US contribute significantly to economic prosperity in Indonesia? whether it exists or not remains the same

Currently, if you want to become a sovereign and respected country, the solution is to uphold the legal principles it adheres to, a strong country is a country that cannot be dictated to by any country. The G20 Summit was held in Indonesia because the country is a neutral and open country. If the US and Russia have a dispute, resolve it in their respective countries, don't make Indonesia a scapegoat by dictating something that doesn't involve Indonesia in the US and Russia feud. The reason is because of the Invasion? just need to ask again

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Indonesia should just realize - that contact with toxic terrorist countries is unacceptable in today's world. Moreover, Russia cannot influence the world market in any way, except for terrorism - pure terrorism and economic terror, and that is not for a long time. The only real significance in Russia is the presence of the largest fresh water storage in the world - Lake Baikal. But it seems to be already becoming a "Chinese issue on historical Chinese territories" Smiley

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G20 at a glance;

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The G20 is a multilateral cooperation forum consisting of 19 major countries and the European Union (EU). The G20 represents more than 60% of the world's population, 75% of global trade and 80% of the world's GDP. The G20 members consist of South Africa, United States of America, Saudi Arabia, Argentina, Australia, Brazil, India, Indonesia, United Kingdom, Italy, Japan, Germany, Canada, Mexico, Republic of Korea, Russia, France, China, Turkey and the European Union.

this time the host of the G20 is Indonesia. but Indonesia is in a bit of trouble because the US threatens to boycott the G20 if Russia is invited

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/us-russia-g20-meetings-boycott-b2052636.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/yellen-says-russia-should-be-expelled-g20-us-may-boycott-some-meetings-2022-04-06/

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"President Biden's made it clear... that it cannot be business as usual for Russia in any of the financial institutions," Yellen said.

"He's asked that Russia be removed from the G20, and I've made clear to my colleagues in (presidency holder) Indonesia that we will not be participating in a number of meetings if the Russians are there."

I'm curious about what steps the Indonesian government should take to melt the hearts of the US, because this is an important meeting for the future of the global economy.

Besides that, Indonesia will definitely be embarrassed in front of the world, if the G20 meeting which will be held in Bali, Indonesia is canceled.
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this is a hard nut to crack by Indonesian government, considering the fact that the two countries are on serious loggerheads with each other at this point in time.
I'm pretty sure they U.S will make do with their plans to boycott the summit.

If the summit is cancelled, then it is a much better option because it gives the next host much time to come up with the best option on how to handle this situation.
Indonesian shouldn't feel embarrassed, because it's not their fault, this is more like this clash of the titans and Indonesia is caught in-between the devil and the deep blue sea.

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The G20 conference is one of the world's major conferences because a large part of the world's population gets various benefits through this conference.This time, the host country of the G20 conference is Indonesia, but we know that Indonesia tries to remain neutral. Indonesia has good relations with America, Russia, India, and China exist.But here the conflict has started with Russia and America because the current situation in Russia and America is very dire The United States has said it will not attend the G20 summit if Russia does, so Indonesia is under intense pressure to figure out how to do, so I think Indonesia should work hard through diplomacy to invite the two countries together through the right decisions and practical measures.Because if America or Russia is not present in such a big conference, many issues cannot be discussed here, and it is not possible to finish the conference successfully, so Indonesia must make a policy by protecting the balance principle to do At present, due to the war in Ukraine, the situation of Russia and America is a state of war, and in this situation, the two countries will never sit together in the next conference, and many countries have tried to negotiate or mediate, but they have failed.
I think America's decision to boycott is a little wrong because there are economic issues involved.America should join here for the betterment of the whole world from an economic point of view.If Indonesia fails to make the G20 conference for any reason, they will be a disgrace to the whole world will fall into disrepute.Indonesia should take note of several conditions
*Their electoral system is already based on corruption
*An early neutral position would be at great risk
*They will fail to maintain good relations with different countries
*They will lose acceptance to the world
They should take some measures to overcome these problems
*Firstly they have to conduct diplomatic activities well
*Whatever steps must be taken to bring the two countries to the summit must be taken
*It is very important for the people of the whole world to participate in front of the neighboring countries of the two countries to convince them
*By justice and honesty and by right fullness they must show that they are in a neutral position towards the two countries
*If you go to have good relations with any country then the G-20 submission will not be complete, and they will have to study for a long time for failure.
*I think it can be done through diplomacy
Finally, I would like to say that this conference will be very difficult for Indonesia because they have some internal and external problems if they can solve them properly and diplomatic activity if they want properly May run they will succeed and finish this conference successfully, and we can wish for a good healthy conference.I don't think they will succeed.If they can eliminate undemocratic elections and terrorism in their country, it will go ahead I hope to avoid conflict in one area of ​​China
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G20 was meant to be for economic cooperation but when agenda of leaders gets to accumulate leaders taking sides in a conflict, the G20 became a group that will isolate a country as punishment. And it happened already because the system is rigged.

Rich countries with more oil to sell realized it. Too bad China also didn't attend. Sure they reasons and they were just expecting the worst that could happen if ever they attend. If they just adopt BTC, they may really stop that rigged games they play.


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G20 was meant to be for economic cooperation but when agenda of leaders gets to accumulate leaders taking sides in a conflict, the G20 became a group that will isolate a country as punishment. And it happened already because the system is rigged.
i forget where i read it, but afaik, the G20 is intended to improve the economy between member countries, but in reality the G20 quite often plays their political power to control and manipulate countries that are not members or countries that are members of the G20.

Rich countries with more oil to sell realized it. Too bad China also didn't attend. Sure they reasons and they were just expecting the worst that could happen if ever they attend. If they just adopt BTC, they may really stop that rigged games they play.
China has quite high prestige among all members of the G20, reportedly China is the largest electricity producing country in the world among all members of the G20 so it is not surprising why many bitcoin miners are very happy if their mining activities are allowed in China.

Other news is that China is also one of the world's largest rice producers, this fact is why China often feels independent of other countries even when they are members of the G20.

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G20 is an interesting idea of global cooperation, but I think we're simply not there yet to make such organizations effective to achieve anything. Our world has countries whose values are way too different for such a union to be meaningful. And international organizations are toothless in actually imposing strong measures against countries that directly threaten global security, no matter how outrageous the actions of these countries might be. That's why they often fail to reach agreement in G20 or, when they do, it's super vague, supporting everything good and opposing everything bad, so to speak.
So the 2023 summit happened, but it was so insignificant that it barely made the news.

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September 13, 2023, 04:35:04 PM
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I feel like it is going to be quite important to have some good discussions between these world leaders, but we all know that there won't be much. We have seen leaders get together, we have seen leaders meet one to one as well instead of summits, and none of them ever did achieve anything. Most developing nations are still doing terrible, poor are still getting poorer and rich are getting richer.

We need to figure out a way where we can't really have a same thing going on every single time this happens, we need to end up having something much better going on eventually. I know that people are not really in love with their presidents, at least not most of the people, but we need to rely on them to do something that is better.

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