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April 09, 2022, 07:07:59 PM
Last edit: April 11, 2022, 10:06:50 AM by bitcasinorank
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Hello Everyone!

I continue researching crypto casinos (my previous research) and would like to share a piece of my new work.

Probably, many of you know that many slot manufacturers allow operators to choose which RTP to put in their slots. I wondered which RTP in such cases crypto casinos choose. I checked 138 crypto casinos and present to you the results of my little research.

Here is the list of game studios I checked RTP for and their RTP Rates:

  • Play’n Go: 84-96%
  • Push Gaming: 90-96%
  • Nolimit City: 94-96%
  • TrueLab: 92-96%
  • Red Tiger: 90-96%
  • NetEnt: 90-99%
  • Pragmatic Play: 94-96%

You can find the RTP rates of each crypto casino that I checked in this table - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_KJuBg3Gb8ankbILw3LzIz-rtkysS3ZsdbiISCsdaqA/edit?usp=sharing

Here is the detailed article about RTP Ranges in online casinos if you want to learn more.

And finally the visual visualization of my research. Please share your thoughts on the subject.


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April 09, 2022, 09:42:45 PM
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Here is the list of game studios I checked RTP for and their RTP Rates:

  • Play’n Go: 84-96%
  • Push Gaming: 90-96%
  • Nolimit City: 94-96%
  • TrueLab: 92-96%
  • Red Tiger: 90-96%
  • NetEnt: 90-99%
  • Pragmatic Play: 94-96%


This is a great findings but I thought at first after reading 'crypto casinos' that it will include the platforms themselves yet it only is about the crypto-game providers. I'm not sure how this will affect anyone's perspective to the RTPs on the platforms that uses the game providers indicated as the gambling platforms can have high house edge -- lowering the RTPs mentioned above. Since you've already mentioned that the RTP minimum percentage aren't set in Curacao e-gambling licenses while knowing the fact that most platforms that has tons of users tends to have a Curacao license, then the RTPs mentioned still will vary depending on what those platforms announced their House Edge is.

However, knowing the RTPs for each game provider really makes a huge difference on choosing which games to play. I mean, there are really no huge difference as they all have the common 96% RTP, knowing the real RTP rates FROM the casino platforms themselves really would sum up the matter.

@OP, I think that users could understand the title more if it would be "RTP Rates from Slots Crypto-game Providers". Casino is a general term for which is always misused and misinterpreted.

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April 09, 2022, 09:59:13 PM
Last edit: April 11, 2022, 11:25:11 PM by seleme
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Thanks for detailed information and research.
Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP?  Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?

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April 10, 2022, 07:54:57 PM
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@bitcasinorank, I'm wondering where you have found those RTP rates! There was a post from a casino representative about the “non-exhaustive list of possible RTP settings”. The user has included the RTP settings of few more providers in his post. Similar information (possible RTP chart) is available at some other websites. I can see some differences between your and his mentioned RTP rates. As example: you have mentioned that ‘Push Gaming’ RTP rate is 90-96%, where he said “Push Gaming: several games 2 RTP Variants: 96% & 95%”. Which one is accurate?

I want to know one more thing here. What is the meaning of max possible RTP here? The Cat Father slot has 98.1% RTP, which is provided by Pragmatic Play. If Pragmatic Play has 96% max possible RTP then how they are allowing higher RTP on some slots?

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April 10, 2022, 08:22:00 PM
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The moral that should come out of this infographic is that slots, no matter how good they are, ultimately are still extremely crappy RTP wise.

If you are purely chasing RTP you should definitely play a game like dice or blackjack and I think that there is no debate about that. The minimum house edge that I've seen on slot games is 1%+ and that's akin to playing a really bad game of blackjack.

Sure, if you enjoy slots definitely go for it. However, be cognizant that RTP is necessarily low because of developmental costs of the game.
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April 10, 2022, 08:36:58 PM
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Hello Everyone!

I continue researching crypto casinos (my previous research) and would like to share a piece of my new work.

Probably, many of you know that many slot manufacturers allow operators to choose which RTP to put in their slots. I wondered which RTP in such cases crypto casinos choose. I checked 138 crypto casinos and present to you the results of my little research.

Here is the list of game studios I checked RTP for and their RTP Rates:

  • Play’n Go: 84-96%
  • Push Gaming: 90-96%
  • Nolimit City: 94-96%
  • TrueLab: 92-96%
  • Red Tiger: 90-96%
  • NetEnt: 90-99%
  • Pragmatic Play: 94-96%

Thank you for the info - this is interesting. What is the way to cross check?
How will we able to find the real time RTP?
I will keep coming to the forum to get more info. Thanks once again

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April 10, 2022, 08:43:37 PM
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Thanks in advance for helping look at the RTP on crypto casinos, where do you get those details won't change? because RTP live is more suitable for use when playing slots usually changes over time, as far as I know that 90+ %RTP can go down and change if played, and will continue like that.

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April 10, 2022, 08:49:51 PM
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Thanks for detailed information and research.
Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP?  Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?

If I'm not mistaken, many slot providers allow casinos to adjust slots RTP on server side. The house edge varies from casino to casino. That’s why I think it’s important that every casino operator shows the RTP for each game on their site.
Most players will not pay attention to that because, quite frankly, they do not care, but for serious casino visitors, it’s important to know exactly what the RTPs for the games are.

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 I think that it would be very interesting if conducting deeper researchs to get to know an average or approximation of the more commonly applicated rates by casinos, so for example for the 99% allowed by NetEnt there is no much casinos (that if is there) that will settle it!  I would so say that in practice is very very rare to find a slot game with a such 97% RTP !

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April 11, 2022, 05:31:29 AM
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Thank you so much for this informations!

Well, I confess that I was curious about a certain theme... can you explain me, where you can get those details that don't change!? Where did you find those RTP rates??

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April 11, 2022, 09:55:06 AM
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Thanks for the research. I rarely play with the other providers from the list because I play on games from Pragmatic Play many times so I do not think I know how high the RTP on each provider that @OP has written. But no matter how high the RTP from each provider, that does not mean you are guaranteed to make a big winning many times because we still need our luck besides us to win, especially if you are a slot fan Grin

Maybe only a few gamblers will search for a high RTP and play that game. But the other gamblers will play the games that they think the game can give them excitement.

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April 11, 2022, 10:24:29 AM
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Thanks for detailed information and research.
Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP?  Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?

Here is the tool that shows RTP in real-time but it covers a limited amount of games and casinos. But save it just in case because they want to develop it further.

No, casinos can adjust RTP on licensed slot games but they can choose the available option from a range.

@bitcasinorank, I'm wondering where you have found those RTP rates! There was a post from a casino representative about the “non-exhaustive list of possible RTP settings”. The user has included the RTP settings of few more providers in his post. Similar information (possible RTP chart) is available at some other websites. I can see some differences between your and his mentioned RTP rates. As example: you have mentioned that ‘Push Gaming’ RTP rate is 90-96%, where he said “Push Gaming: several games 2 RTP Variants: 96% & 95%”. Which one is accurate?

I want to know one more thing here. What is the meaning of max possible RTP here? The Cat Father slot has 98.1% RTP, which is provided by Pragmatic Play. If Pragmatic Play has 96% max possible RTP then how they are allowing higher RTP on some slots?

Thanks fro the questions. I got the information on RTP ranges from game providers directly. As for The Cat Father, game providers still can release games with a fixed RTP. When I say that 96% is a maximum RTP for Pragmatic Play, I mean that this is the max possible RTP in slots with multiple RTP choices. And by the way, RTP in The Catfather slot is 96.52% (according to the Pragmatic Play)

Thank you for the info - this is interesting. What is the way to cross check?
How will we able to find the real time RTP?
I will keep coming to the forum to get more info. Thanks once again

Most game developers indicate the RTP in game rules. As for Play'n Go, you can check the RTP in the game's code. Read here how to do it (How to check the RTP in Play’n Go slots?).

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Thank you so much for this informations!

Well, I confess that I was curious about a certain theme... can you explain me, where you can get those details that don't change!? Where did you find those RTP rates??

I get this info from game providers



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Nice info. @bitcasinorank, you can update the table for UKGC - they require a minimum RTP of 90%. It's also worth mentioning that UKGC requires RTP to be shown in the help/info file (MGA doesn't).

Thanks for detailed information and research.
Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP?  Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?

No, players usually can't see/check real-time RTP. However, some online casinos offer this information for all casino games (updated in real-time or delayed a few minutes).


Here is a list of game providers not offering multiple RTP settings (source)

•   4ThePlayer
•   Barcrest
•   Big Time Gaming
•   Elk Studios
•   Fantasma Games
•   High 5 Games
•   Inspired Gaming
•   Iron Dog Studios
•   Kalamba Games
•   Lightning Box Games
•   Nextgen Gaming
•   PG Soft
•   Realistic Games
•   ReelPlay
•   WMS
•   YGGDRASIL

Note that this list might change in the future. For example, Relax was on the list till last week - but just recently they started to introduce multiple RTP settings on some of their slot games.


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Nice info. @bitcasinorank, you can update the table for UKGC - they require a minimum RTP of 90%. It's also worth mentioning that UKGC requires RTP to be shown in the help/info file (MGA doesn't).

Thanks for detailed information and research.
Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP?  Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?

No, players usually can't see/check real-time RTP. However, some online casinos offer this information for all casino games (updated in real-time or delayed a few minutes).


Here is a list of game providers not offering multiple RTP settings (source)

•   4ThePlayer
•   Barcrest
•   Big Time Gaming
•   Elk Studios
•   Fantasma Games
•       High 5 Games
•   Inspired Gaming
•   Iron Dog Studios
•   Kalamba Games
•   Lightning Box Games
•   Nextgen Gaming
•   PG Soft
•   Realistic Games
•   ReelPlay
•   WMS
•   YGGDRASIL

Note that this list might change in the future. For example, Relax was on the list till last week - but just recently they started to introduce multiple RTP settings on some of their slot games.



Actually 4ThePlayer has multiple RTPs in some games. For example

Also, these studios have ranges as well
High 5 Games
Kalamba Games

The rest should be checked as well

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I got the information on RTP ranges from game providers directly. As for The Cat Father, game providers still can release games with a fixed RTP. When I say that 96% is a maximum RTP for Pragmatic Play, I mean that this is the max possible RTP in slots with multiple RTP choices. And by the way, RTP in The Catfather slot is 96.52% (according to the Pragmatic Play)
There is two version of The Catfather slot game. One of them (The Catfather part II) have 96.07% RTP, and the other game (The Catfather) RTP isn't mentioned in Pragmatic Play website. I was talking about the old catfather slots game which RTP isn't mentioned on the Pragmatic Play website. That game RTP is 98.1%. You may check it in those casino where ‘The Catfather’ game is available (as example: wolf.bet). The review of The Catfather game also says that it has 98.1% RTP.

BTW, you should remove those casino from the spreadsheet which doesn't have the slot game. It will make the list short and easy to realize.

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Actually 4ThePlayer has multiple RTPs in some games. For example

Also, these studios have ranges as well
High 5 Games
Kalamba Games

The rest should be checked as well

Thank you, will update the list. Do you have some sources for High 5 & Kalamba multiple RTP samples?

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Sure.

here are the screens from the official game docs




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Thanks for this list. I didn't know the differences were still so big. I thought that with so much competition between casinos the house edge it was getting closer and closer to zero. However, I can see that there are still games that take more than 10%.  Shocked
We have to be vigilant all the time and check which provider we use every time.

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Thx for the work! The table more interesting than infographic as for me, but for someone it will be enough to look at the picture quickly.
But the main moment that difference between 90 and 96 percent(for example) may costs nothing to the ordinary gambler - he can win with 90% RTP and lose with 96% RTP with the same chances. This can be significant for the one player only after the huge quantity of games.

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hmm... well, thank you for your feedback!!

Oh... by the way, and congratulations for this work and for this list, i never imagined that these differences were so expressive!!!

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Thx for the work! The table more interesting than infographic as for me, but for someone it will be enough to look at the picture quickly.
But the main moment that difference between 90 and 96 percent(for example) may costs nothing to the ordinary gambler - he can win with 90% RTP and lose with 96% RTP with the same chances. This can be significant for the one player only after the huge quantity of games.
That correct - the info graphics is great and one can decide only by looking at it that PUSH GAMING would be a fine choice to select the gambling site.
Had that been more interesting if you would have added some more info which would make the selection easier.

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Here is the list of game studios I checked RTP for and their RTP Rates:

  • Play’n Go: 84-96%
  • Push Gaming: 90-96%
  • Nolimit City: 94-96%
  • TrueLab: 92-96%
  • Red Tiger: 90-96%
  • NetEnt: 90-99%
  • Pragmatic Play: 94-96%


Great inforgaphics! How much time did it take to create such info graphic?
I believe info graphics is one of the finest ways to present your survey or research.
This is very self-explanatory!

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Here is the list of game studios I checked RTP for and their RTP Rates:

  • Play’n Go: 84-96%
  • Push Gaming: 90-96%
  • Nolimit City: 94-96%
  • TrueLab: 92-96%
  • Red Tiger: 90-96%
  • NetEnt: 90-99%
  • Pragmatic Play: 94-96%


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April 23, 2022, 10:26:09 PM
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Pragmatic Play: 94-96%
You have done a great job regarding the percentages of RTP. But I think you have few mis information too especially regarding this pragmatic play. Would you like to check once again and find out if there is any mis information provided by you and/or provided on pragmatic play?
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I have a noob question:

Are those RTP percentages by game providers apply to all their casino games?

For example, ALL casinos games under Pragmatic plays have a range of RTP @ 94-96% and it doesn't have games lowered than the said figures.

Please enlighten me here as to what my knowledge is concerned, regardless of the game provider, each of the Slots has different RTPs that are not within a given range like on the list. Anyways, this topic requires dedication to make.

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Most of them didn't go above 96% or 97%? I was wondering whether if there is a slots out there that has 99% RTP I am not really sure about it since I am not familiar with slots but is it possible that they offer 99% RTP? what could be the advantage and disadvantage of that?

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Most of them didn't go above 96% or 97%? I was wondering whether if there is a slots out there that has 99% RTP I am not really sure about it since I am not familiar with slots but is it possible that they offer 99% RTP? what could be the advantage and disadvantage of that?

Usually Slots came from third party services and they are business so I think 99% RTP is very rare or no slots provider would do that the average is from 94-97 for what I know but they can adjust their RTP and some gambling sites doesn't show RTP to players but some do show it which I think is good since as a player I should know the RTP of the game I am playing with.

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Usually Slots came from third party services and they are business so I think 99% RTP is very rare or no slots provider would do that the average is from 94-97 for what I know but they can adjust their RTP and some gambling sites doesn't show RTP to players but some do show it which I think is good since as a player I should know the RTP of the game I am playing with.

In fact, this is the way it should be: transparency regarding the RTP. If I were a casino owner I would try to give the highest RTP possible and would advertise. It would be a good way to attract players, as you give them a better user experience.

Casinos are money-making machines. The only thing to make sure is that players go there frequently. The way to attract them is advertising and the way to keep them coming back is to give them a good user experience. A good RTP is a good complement to both points.




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I was wondering whether if there is a slots out there that has 99% RTP I am not really sure about it since I am not familiar with slots but is it possible that they offer 99% RTP?
They are very rare, but you can come across older slot games with RTP rates above 99%. For example, there is a game by Playtech called Ugga Bugga. It's RTP rate is 99.07% If you try it out for free and play a few spins, you really don't notice the higher returning rates. Visually, it's not very appealing either. The most old-school kind of slot where you are actually presented with a slot machine is Mega Joker with an RTP of 99% This is a game developed by NetEnt. 

You can find several other examples by doing a Google search for "slot games with the highest RTP" or something like that. Here is just one example.

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April 24, 2022, 07:56:42 AM
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Most of them didn't go above 96% or 97%? I was wondering whether if there is a slots out there that has 99% RTP I am not really sure about it since I am not familiar with slots but is it possible that they offer 99% RTP? what could be the advantage and disadvantage of that?
The thing is the RTP isn't fixed, the games is Mega Joker [1] and if you read the rules they wrote the RTP is from 85,28%-99%, the minimum RTP isn't even close to 95%... the RTP has high variance. I'm not really sure why the @OP wrote NetEnt provider start 90% RTP minimum, since Mega Joker is also from NetEnt provider. I think Pragmatic play still become the best provider since the minimum and maximum of the RTP are so close between few percents or zero point n


[1] https://bestnetentcasino.info/en/games/mega-joker

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April 24, 2022, 10:29:49 AM
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Most of them didn't go above 96% or 97%? I was wondering whether if there is a slots out there that has 99% RTP I am not really sure about it since I am not familiar with slots but is it possible that they offer 99% RTP? what could be the advantage and disadvantage of that?
I am not sure if there a slots game have that percentage. After all, that is a calculation only and not giving you or guarantee you winning the games. If the game have above 95% will be okay to play and the rest we can depend on our luck to win. Usually, when we see offer 95%, our brain will get a sign that this game can be our luckiest game so we can win more than the other games. 95% is closest to 100% which is a perfect number Grin
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This RTP is useless if you will not determine the volatility of the slots each game provider have. Even if the slot has high RTP while the volatility is so high, You can lose big time without gaining anything before you hit a decent amount of money which is not sufficient to cover your losses. I believe slot with high volatility can be considered as lottery games which is very hard to win the high multiplier.

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April 24, 2022, 11:08:59 PM
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Most of them didn't go above 96% or 97%? I was wondering whether if there is a slots out there that has 99% RTP I am not really sure about it since I am not familiar with slots but is it possible that they offer 99% RTP? what could be the advantage and disadvantage of that?
Yes, there are a lot of slots which has 99% RTP even more than 99%. The more RTP percentage the more winning amount and the less RTP the lower winning amount. So, if RTP is higher then your winning amount will be more than usual and if lower then you will get lower profit, that's it.
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April 27, 2022, 08:55:06 AM
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I have a noob question:

Are those RTP percentages by game providers apply to all their casino games?

For example, ALL casinos games under Pragmatic plays have a range of RTP @ 94-96% and it doesn't have games lowered than the said figures.

Please enlighten me here as to what my knowledge is concerned, regardless of the game provider, each of the Slots has different RTPs that are not within a given range like on the list. Anyways, this topic requires dedication to make.

Thanks, OP for this!
If i understand you correct, you ought to look at google.docs file, that the OP added in the first post. There are all percents for all games and for all casinos. It is more informative than final list as for me. I can choose any casino i like and see RTP for each game.
Here it is:
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I usually play with pragmatic games but honestly I think I am just unlucky with slots games since whenever I play it I always ended up losing my bankroll I mean every time. Is there something like betting strategy I can use in slots game?

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April 27, 2022, 10:29:13 AM
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I usually play with pragmatic games but honestly I think I am just unlucky with slots games since whenever I play it I always ended up losing my bankroll I mean every time. Is there something like betting strategy I can use in slots game?
There's no such legit betting strategy in slots as long as the games you played have house edge because the house have higher chance to win rather than you in the long run. Martingale strategy is the most known betting strategy by multiplying your bet, but this only work for high roller. Some casinos does offer happy hour events (no house edge) this will make the chance you won and the house is 50/50.

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April 27, 2022, 10:57:26 AM
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I usually play with pragmatic games but honestly I think I am just unlucky with slots games since whenever I play it I always ended up losing my bankroll I mean every time. Is there something like betting strategy I can use in slots game?

Pragmatic slot games is usually offered high volatility slot games. You will need a good bank roll in able to win especially if you are not lucky because the number of winning spin is rare to occur but you can hit huge amount instantly once you manage to hit a lucky spin. Try to check the volatility too and don’t focus much on RTP especially if you’re bank roll is tight. You will need a slot games with less volatility so that you can last longer spinning.

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I usually play with pragmatic games but honestly I think I am just unlucky with slots games since whenever I play it I always ended up losing my bankroll I mean every time. Is there something like betting strategy I can use in slots game?
There really is no strategy that makes you win 100%, throughout my life I always avoided slots because I really believed that it was very easy to lose, after I learned more about stake.com, bitcasino.io my perspective changed remarkably, I began to see in their threads that they published their earnings, by that time I began to be much more interested in these games, however since these are totally reliable platforms, I told myself that if a person earns so much money, it is likely that one as a small player can also obtain profits, and throughout all this experience I have determined that the trick is to make small bets, and allocate a daily balance willing to lose, so you focus on having fun and if you win it is already something positive.

However there are many strategies, here you can find some: Tips & tricks

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It's from the bitcasino.io blog, a great article by Karl, which is very educational and which I hope will help you.

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I usually play with pragmatic games but honestly I think I am just unlucky with slots games since whenever I play it I always ended up losing my bankroll I mean every time. Is there something like betting strategy I can use in slots game?
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This never works, but you can make sure that the casino you associate with have high RTP rates which would mean that it would give you more chances of winning as well, which does mean that it's a really competitive place for other casinos as well, there is also a minimum RTP which is needed for a game to pass. Then again you should also understand that you can play the penny slots, giving you more chances. But you should always see how much you are spending as well. Other than that I think the list is nice but it should also include some of the casinos here on the campaigns as well since this would make it easier for the players to see and choose since not everyone calculates the RTP as well.

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By the way, I heard a rumor that RTP stated on Pragmatic Play games can be different from the actual used RTP. For example, when you open the (i) and read 96.5% RTP there, the casino can set the RTP into a different one (let's say 94.2%), so there's no way to know the actual RTP used by the casino, except the insider.

Disclaimer: I can't confirm the rumor, so if anyone, especially slots operator, can confirm this, it would be a big help.

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I usually play with pragmatic games but honestly I think I am just unlucky with slots games since whenever I play it I always ended up losing my bankroll I mean every time. Is there something like betting strategy I can use in slots game?

Pragmatic slot games is usually offered high volatility slot games. You will need a good bank roll in able to win especially if you are not lucky because the number of winning spin is rare to occur but you can hit huge amount instantly once you manage to hit a lucky spin. Try to check the volatility too and don’t focus much on RTP especially if you’re bank roll is tight. You will need a slot games with less volatility so that you can last longer spinning.

I dont think so, as far as I know Pragmatic is using mostly lower volatility compared to other providers such as Hacksaw, Yggdrasil, Push Gaming, or Relax Gaming.
Most slot lover with low bankroll will be preferred to play Pragmatic or Play n Go than the other providers as I mentioned previously.

By the way, I heard a rumor that RTP stated on Pragmatic Play games can be different from the actual used RTP. For example, when you open the (i) and read 96.5% RTP there, the casino can set the RTP into a different one (let's say 94.2%), so there's no way to know the actual RTP used by the casino, except the insider.

Disclaimer: I can't confirm the rumor, so if anyone, especially slots operator, can confirm this, it would be a big help.

If this rumor is true, what we can do? To be frank, I dont really care about actual RTP when I play slot games.
As long as I like the game, then I'll play it no matter how much is the actual RTP or the latest live RTP of the game.

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May 05, 2022, 01:31:43 PM
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How many of you are familiar with the game provider “BigTimeGaming

They publicly show all their slot settings including RTP manipulation available.

For example; their title “Lil’ Devil” states;
     “Game Stats - max win 100,504 X , RTP 96.31% - 96.43%”

How is it that Gamdom are able to run this game at below accepted or advertised RTP rates set my the slot provider?    Are some casinos using false titles of their games?

Gamdom have this game set to a max win of 1,338x  (literally 1% of game potential) and 95.73% RTP, which isn’t possible based on advertised accepted stats by the provider.

Complained on Casino Guru, and Gamdom refused to comment publically, same as they’ve done here and remained silent about their scam.  Would like other peoples views on this fraud?
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May 05, 2022, 01:53:30 PM
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If this rumor is true, what we can do? To be frank, I dont really care about actual RTP when I play slot games.
As long as I like the game, then I'll play it no matter how much is the actual RTP or the latest live RTP of the game.

Actually, as a players, we can't do anything with this, since RTP are setting up by Provider and Casino's, what we can do just accept this terms. I also not really notice the RTP's, since RTP are not guarantee our winning, so I'm playing as far as I wants. Maybe my gambling activity are bad for professional gambler, because I just trying to play without notice the RTP's. For me, I only playing in several games only like, Wild West Wet (Spadegaming), bonanza family, and several games, not too much game I've tried, so no matter RTP's is, I never thinking about that so far.

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May 05, 2022, 11:26:05 PM
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I know most people are gonna play with Pragmatic Play.

However, the recent few games has been release with 5,000x max win even with RTP over 95%. The max win sometimes is really easy to be predicted, example like Olympus Zeus. You are gonna to get maximum win, If multiplier always show over and over again.

The rest is better since is really random, however people still love pragmatic.

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May 06, 2022, 12:12:47 AM
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I’d say it had something to do with this is what streamers repeatedly spam bonus buys on;
Pragmatic interestingly allow bonus buys on their demo games;    could the streamers be playing inflated rtp on test accounts maybe?
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May 06, 2022, 12:54:21 AM
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This is very helpful! I just thought I'd add that all most of these providers offer two different levels of RTP which the casino operator can select from. There's lots of casinos that pick the lower RTP option to increase their margin.

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