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April 09, 2022, 07:07:59 PM Last edit: April 11, 2022, 10:06:50 AM by bitcasinorank |
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Hello Everyone! I continue researching crypto casinos ( my previous research) and would like to share a piece of my new work. Probably, many of you know that many slot manufacturers allow operators to choose which RTP to put in their slots. I wondered which RTP in such cases crypto casinos choose. I checked 138 crypto casinos and present to you the results of my little research. Here is the list of game studios I checked RTP for and their RTP Rates: - Play’n Go: 84-96%
- Push Gaming: 90-96%
- Nolimit City: 94-96%
- TrueLab: 92-96%
- Red Tiger: 90-96%
- NetEnt: 90-99%
- Pragmatic Play: 94-96%
You can find the RTP rates of each crypto casino that I checked in this table - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_KJuBg3Gb8ankbILw3LzIz-rtkysS3ZsdbiISCsdaqA/edit?usp=sharing Here is the detailed article about RTP Ranges in online casinos if you want to learn more. And finally the visual visualization of my research. Please share your thoughts on the subject.
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April 09, 2022, 09:42:45 PM |
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Here is the list of game studios I checked RTP for and their RTP Rates: - Play’n Go: 84-96%
- Push Gaming: 90-96%
- Nolimit City: 94-96%
- TrueLab: 92-96%
- Red Tiger: 90-96%
- NetEnt: 90-99%
- Pragmatic Play: 94-96%
This is a great findings but I thought at first after reading 'crypto casinos' that it will include the platforms themselves yet it only is about the crypto-game providers. I'm not sure how this will affect anyone's perspective to the RTPs on the platforms that uses the game providers indicated as the gambling platforms can have high house edge -- lowering the RTPs mentioned above. Since you've already mentioned that the RTP minimum percentage aren't set in Curacao e-gambling licenses while knowing the fact that most platforms that has tons of users tends to have a Curacao license, then the RTPs mentioned still will vary depending on what those platforms announced their House Edge is. However, knowing the RTPs for each game provider really makes a huge difference on choosing which games to play. I mean, there are really no huge difference as they all have the common 96% RTP, knowing the real RTP rates FROM the casino platforms themselves really would sum up the matter. @OP, I think that users could understand the title more if it would be "RTP Rates from Slots Crypto-game Providers". Casino is a general term for which is always misused and misinterpreted.
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April 09, 2022, 09:59:13 PM Last edit: April 11, 2022, 11:25:11 PM by seleme |
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Thanks for detailed information and research. Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP? Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?
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April 10, 2022, 07:54:57 PM |
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@bitcasinorank, I'm wondering where you have found those RTP rates! There was a post from a casino representative about the “ non-exhaustive list of possible RTP settings”. The user has included the RTP settings of few more providers in his post. Similar information (possible RTP chart) is available at some other websites. I can see some differences between your and his mentioned RTP rates. As example: you have mentioned that ‘Push Gaming’ RTP rate is 90-96%, where he said “ Push Gaming: several games 2 RTP Variants: 96% & 95%”. Which one is accurate? I want to know one more thing here. What is the meaning of max possible RTP here? The Cat Father slot has 98.1% RTP, which is provided by Pragmatic Play. If Pragmatic Play has 96% max possible RTP then how they are allowing higher RTP on some slots?
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magneto
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April 10, 2022, 08:22:00 PM |
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The moral that should come out of this infographic is that slots, no matter how good they are, ultimately are still extremely crappy RTP wise.
If you are purely chasing RTP you should definitely play a game like dice or blackjack and I think that there is no debate about that. The minimum house edge that I've seen on slot games is 1%+ and that's akin to playing a really bad game of blackjack.
Sure, if you enjoy slots definitely go for it. However, be cognizant that RTP is necessarily low because of developmental costs of the game.
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mm2543363580
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April 10, 2022, 08:36:58 PM |
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Hello Everyone! I continue researching crypto casinos ( my previous research) and would like to share a piece of my new work. Probably, many of you know that many slot manufacturers allow operators to choose which RTP to put in their slots. I wondered which RTP in such cases crypto casinos choose. I checked 138 crypto casinos and present to you the results of my little research. Here is the list of game studios I checked RTP for and their RTP Rates: - Play’n Go: 84-96%
- Push Gaming: 90-96%
- Nolimit City: 94-96%
- TrueLab: 92-96%
- Red Tiger: 90-96%
- NetEnt: 90-99%
- Pragmatic Play: 94-96%
Thank you for the info - this is interesting. What is the way to cross check? How will we able to find the real time RTP? I will keep coming to the forum to get more info. Thanks once again
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Doell
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April 10, 2022, 08:43:37 PM |
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Thanks in advance for helping look at the RTP on crypto casinos, where do you get those details won't change? because RTP live is more suitable for use when playing slots usually changes over time, as far as I know that 90+ %RTP can go down and change if played, and will continue like that.
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April 10, 2022, 08:49:51 PM Last edit: April 10, 2022, 10:18:11 PM by Marvelman |
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Thanks for detailed information and research. Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP? Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?
If I'm not mistaken, many slot providers allow casinos to adjust slots RTP on server side. The house edge varies from casino to casino. That’s why I think it’s important that every casino operator shows the RTP for each game on their site. Most players will not pay attention to that because, quite frankly, they do not care, but for serious casino visitors, it’s important to know exactly what the RTPs for the games are.
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April 10, 2022, 11:22:30 PM |
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I think that it would be very interesting if conducting deeper researchs to get to know an average or approximation of the more commonly applicated rates by casinos, so for example for the 99% allowed by NetEnt there is no much casinos (that if is there) that will settle it! I would so say that in practice is very very rare to find a slot game with a such 97% RTP !
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gagux123
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April 11, 2022, 05:31:29 AM |
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Thank you so much for this informations! Well, I confess that I was curious about a certain theme... can you explain me, where you can get those details that don't change!? Where did you find those RTP rates??
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michellee
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April 11, 2022, 09:55:06 AM |
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Thanks for the research. I rarely play with the other providers from the list because I play on games from Pragmatic Play many times so I do not think I know how high the RTP on each provider that @OP has written. But no matter how high the RTP from each provider, that does not mean you are guaranteed to make a big winning many times because we still need our luck besides us to win, especially if you are a slot fan Maybe only a few gamblers will search for a high RTP and play that game. But the other gamblers will play the games that they think the game can give them excitement.
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bitcasinorank (OP)
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April 11, 2022, 10:24:29 AM |
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Thanks for detailed information and research. Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP? Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?
Here is the tool that shows RTP in real-time but it covers a limited amount of games and casinos. But save it just in case because they want to develop it further. No, casinos can adjust RTP on licensed slot games but they can choose the available option from a range. @bitcasinorank, I'm wondering where you have found those RTP rates! There was a post from a casino representative about the “ non-exhaustive list of possible RTP settings”. The user has included the RTP settings of few more providers in his post. Similar information (possible RTP chart) is available at some other websites. I can see some differences between your and his mentioned RTP rates. As example: you have mentioned that ‘Push Gaming’ RTP rate is 90-96%, where he said “ Push Gaming: several games 2 RTP Variants: 96% & 95%”. Which one is accurate? I want to know one more thing here. What is the meaning of max possible RTP here? The Cat Father slot has 98.1% RTP, which is provided by Pragmatic Play. If Pragmatic Play has 96% max possible RTP then how they are allowing higher RTP on some slots? Thanks fro the questions. I got the information on RTP ranges from game providers directly. As for The Cat Father, game providers still can release games with a fixed RTP. When I say that 96% is a maximum RTP for Pragmatic Play, I mean that this is the max possible RTP in slots with multiple RTP choices. And by the way, RTP in The Catfather slot is 96.52% (according to the Pragmatic Play) Thank you for the info - this is interesting. What is the way to cross check? How will we able to find the real time RTP? I will keep coming to the forum to get more info. Thanks once again
Most game developers indicate the RTP in game rules. As for Play'n Go, you can check the RTP in the game's code. Read here how to do it (How to check the RTP in Play’n Go slots?). (...)
Thank you so much for this informations! Well, I confess that I was curious about a certain theme... can you explain me, where you can get those details that don't change!? Where did you find those RTP rates?? I get this info from game providers
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April 11, 2022, 10:42:14 AM |
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Nice info. @bitcasinorank, you can update the table for UKGC - they require a minimum RTP of 90%. It's also worth mentioning that UKGC requires RTP to be shown in the help/info file (MGA doesn't). Thanks for detailed information and research. Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP? Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?
No, players usually can't see/check real-time RTP. However, some online casinos offer this information for all casino games (updated in real-time or delayed a few minutes). Here is a list of game providers not offering multiple RTP settings (source)• 4ThePlayer • Barcrest • Big Time Gaming • Elk Studios • Fantasma Games • High 5 Games • Inspired Gaming • Iron Dog Studios • Kalamba Games • Lightning Box Games • Nextgen Gaming • PG Soft • Realistic Games • ReelPlay • WMS • YGGDRASIL Note that this list might change in the future. For example, Relax was on the list till last week - but just recently they started to introduce multiple RTP settings on some of their slot games.
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bitcasinorank (OP)
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April 11, 2022, 11:39:49 AM |
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Nice info. @bitcasinorank, you can update the table for UKGC - they require a minimum RTP of 90%. It's also worth mentioning that UKGC requires RTP to be shown in the help/info file (MGA doesn't). Thanks for detailed information and research. Few questions if you can answer: Is there any method or tool for finding real time RTP? Can casinos adjust the slot RTP on server side or it is fixed per slot or provider before released?
No, players usually can't see/check real-time RTP. However, some online casinos offer this information for all casino games (updated in real-time or delayed a few minutes). Here is a list of game providers not offering multiple RTP settings (source)• 4ThePlayer • Barcrest • Big Time Gaming • Elk Studios • Fantasma Games • High 5 Games • Inspired Gaming • Iron Dog Studios • Kalamba Games • Lightning Box Games • Nextgen Gaming • PG Soft • Realistic Games • ReelPlay • WMS • YGGDRASIL Note that this list might change in the future. For example, Relax was on the list till last week - but just recently they started to introduce multiple RTP settings on some of their slot games. Actually 4ThePlayer has multiple RTPs in some games. For exampleAlso, these studios have ranges as well High 5 Games Kalamba Games The rest should be checked as well
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Mahdirakib
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April 11, 2022, 12:06:58 PM |
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I got the information on RTP ranges from game providers directly. As for The Cat Father, game providers still can release games with a fixed RTP. When I say that 96% is a maximum RTP for Pragmatic Play, I mean that this is the max possible RTP in slots with multiple RTP choices. And by the way, RTP in The Catfather slot is 96.52% (according to the Pragmatic Play)
There is two version of The Catfather slot game. One of them (The Catfather part II) have 96.07% RTP, and the other game (The Catfather) RTP isn't mentioned in Pragmatic Play website. I was talking about the old catfather slots game which RTP isn't mentioned on the Pragmatic Play website. That game RTP is 98.1%. You may check it in those casino where ‘The Catfather’ game is available (as example: wolf.bet). The review of The Catfather game also says that it has 98.1% RTP. BTW, you should remove those casino from the spreadsheet which doesn't have the slot game. It will make the list short and easy to realize.
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April 11, 2022, 12:14:32 PM |
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Actually 4ThePlayer has multiple RTPs in some games. For exampleAlso, these studios have ranges as well High 5 Games Kalamba Games The rest should be checked as well Thank you, will update the list. Do you have some sources for High 5 & Kalamba multiple RTP samples?
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bitcasinorank (OP)
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April 11, 2022, 01:38:12 PM |
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Sure. here are the screens from the official game docs
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Cryptock
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April 11, 2022, 03:10:38 PM |
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Thanks for this list. I didn't know the differences were still so big. I thought that with so much competition between casinos the house edge it was getting closer and closer to zero. However, I can see that there are still games that take more than 10%. We have to be vigilant all the time and check which provider we use every time.
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mak013
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April 11, 2022, 06:08:22 PM |
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Thx for the work! The table more interesting than infographic as for me, but for someone it will be enough to look at the picture quickly. But the main moment that difference between 90 and 96 percent(for example) may costs nothing to the ordinary gambler - he can win with 90% RTP and lose with 96% RTP with the same chances. This can be significant for the one player only after the huge quantity of games.
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gagux123
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April 11, 2022, 06:20:23 PM |
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hmm... well, thank you for your feedback!! Oh... by the way, and congratulations for this work and for this list, i never imagined that these differences were so expressive!!!
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