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May 12, 2022, 10:29:13 PM
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There is no conclusive evidence, but there has been suspicious activity nonetheless. This is especially evident by looking at screenshots and their titles, and that they are all posted in the same thread. It is almost impossible to consider this a coincidence. Another "coincidence" is that all accounts were active in the Indonesian local board.

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May 13, 2022, 02:39:10 PM
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I just sent a PM to all four names mentioned in the OP and asked them to post here in the thread. Hopefully they will post their response to the allegations soon so they can state their position.
I've also taken the good initiative of informing them of the suspicions in this thread beforehand via PM, but sadly they didn't respond and probably ignored them.

But wait, it looks like dkbit98 is getting angry with the actions of the 4 accused accounts and started sending neutral tags to all accounts. I hope it will force all of them to show their face here to clarify things that may be wrong/right.

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May 13, 2022, 02:58:15 PM
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If you want to accuse any user of using alt to abuse the merit system you'll need to provide a piece of strong evidence which i believe will be far more than posting style because people from the always have the same posting style and recommend by the above user.
Yet again you need to understand that admin does not want anyone to tag for abusing merit unless a source is doing it. The source will be removed from the merit source list.
Oh. I believe this is the first time I am reading this and for the record, a lot of accounts were red-tagged for possibly trading of merit but what you're saying here is that the admin doesn't want anyone to be tagged for doing so.
Could you please provide me a link to back this up because I need to be reassured that what you're saying is true?

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May 13, 2022, 03:24:59 PM
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Could you please provide me a link to back this up because I need to be reassured that what you're saying is true?

I will help you with a link. I also had a misunderstanding of this attitude towards merit transfer, but LoyceV showed me a link, after which I agreed not to tag people for such things. If the merit is not sold but transferred, and there is no abuse, this is not considered a big problem.
Actually, I think so, too. In the end, all people are revealed by their behavior on the forum, someone can earn merits, but it's easier for someone to transfer to himself.


you violated the merit sharing rule with your alternate account.
I don't think it's a forum rule. Allow me to quote theymos (he was talking to a Merit source here);
If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.


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May 13, 2022, 03:30:22 PM
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Following on from my PM to the four accounts yesterday, all have signed in to the forum this morning but none have posted here. There is circumstantial evidence to link them together but he/they should start posting in this thread to either confirm the accounts are linked or deny the allegations by presenting their case.

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May 13, 2022, 06:54:48 PM
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Oh. I believe this is the first time I am reading this and for the record, a lot of accounts were red-tagged for possibly trading of merit but what you're saying here is that the admin doesn't want anyone to be tagged for doing so.
It used to be. I mean members used to tag merit abusers but not anymore since the admin made an statement about it. He did not encourage tagging for merit. The trust system is encouraged to use for financial deals. For example if anyone get scammed or lose money then tag the scammer. Things like that.

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May 13, 2022, 07:30:19 PM
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If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

Oh how I wish this were true.  Look at all these rabid Derek-Chauvinesque rentacops salivating at the prospect of tagging these four accounts.  Why?  Because they're ALTS of one another!  OHZNOZ!  ALTSZEZ!

Even though they've done nothing abusive and it's not against the rules to have alts, according one rentacop they need to show up to this thread and tell us why they shouldn't be tagged.  Sounds stupid, doesn't it?

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May 14, 2022, 01:36:42 PM
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Following on from my PM to the four accounts yesterday, all have signed in to the forum this morning but none have posted here. There is circumstantial evidence to link them together but he/they should start posting in this thread to either confirm the accounts are linked or deny the allegations by presenting their case.
I believe all four accounts have received and read your message. all of them are active and even make posts on multiple threads.
even though they are not active in the reputation thread, my assumption is, that all accounts have seen this thread, but prefer to remain silent and ignore their case.
hopefully, there will be one or 3 other accounts that will soon confirm the case concerning his reputation.


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May 14, 2022, 02:00:30 PM
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I checked before you posted, all of them have logged in after the PM was sent to them. I did not check to see if they posted elsewhere but they have been active. I hope they respond here soon.

I believe all four accounts have received and read your message. all of them are active and even make posts on multiple threads.
even though they are not active in the reputation thread, my assumption is, that all accounts have seen this thread, but prefer to remain silent and ignore their case.
hopefully, there will be one or 3 other accounts that will soon confirm the case concerning his reputation.

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I posted in threads these accounts last posted:


What are your opinions about the allegations made against you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394026.0

What about the PMs you received asking you for your input to clear your name?

If you can post around to hit your targets to receive your signature campaign fee you should be able to post in the thread that has allegations against you.

You bought at very high price.i entered this coin when it was 2$ and made good profit. I sold at 7$ and then never bought again. If again Decentralization trend start then I believe that Cake token will be boom again above 10$. All crypto market is now in bear trend but hope when bull start Cake token will also recover fast.
Cake will recover slowly and not quickly if the Bullish market can come again this year because in general Cake is a token that already has the trust of investors and also from traders so it is likely to recover during a bullish trend if it can come again this year, considering that the market is still in a bearish trend that is still ongoing and has not yet been completed.

What is also very is that you are not responding to allegations made against you.

What are your opinions about the allegations made against you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394026.0

What about the PMs you received asking you for your input to clear your name?

If you can post around to hit your targets to receive your signature campaign fee you should be able to post in the thread that has allegations against you.

They only cite bad examples in the crypto market but ignore the movement pattern of bitcoin so far, but I also don't blame @kesmex that someone will be free to choose to invest in the real world or crypto, all who benefit then it's worth the investment.
I think that is also very clear because investing in anything is for profit and as long as it can be very profitable then it is definitely worth the investment.
But always consider the risk when you want to choose it and also see where the potential is because this is different from investing in the real world which is always easier to know what is better and more profitable.

You are silent about the allegations made against you. What are your opinions about the allegations made against you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394026.0

What about the PMs you received asking you for your input to clear your name?

If you can post around to hit your targets to receive your signature campaign fee you should be able to post in the thread that has allegations against you.

Price is not in well position to reach $20 in 2022. It may be happen but on in this year. Matic is under $1 now and market condition is also in poor condition. It will take more time to recover the market again. So, literally it is not possible for matic to reach $20 in this year.
What you said is true because with the current market conditions all coins find it very difficult to recover themselves to a better price because everything takes time and also a process of improvement in the market so that you can see the price movements of good coins from now on, but as the current market conditions still do not allow for a recovery, then everyone should be more patient to see the Matic priced at $20, both for this year and next year.

You seem to post in detail when replying to certain posts but you remain silent on allegations made against you?

What are your opinions about the allegations made against you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394026.0

What about the PMs you received asking you for your input to clear your name?

If you can post around to hit your targets to receive your signature campaign fee you should be able to post in the thread that has allegations against you.


why should the exchange be responsible for the failure of the project. from the start they have only been a place to trade and the people who buy should know the risks when buying problematic coins. to blame is the development team itself. those who make this problem so big. no action has been taken since crash.
Basically the exchange is clearly not to blame because the exchange only provides the services and places needed by the coin or token so that traders can see it clearly and can make purchases on it. I think what you're saying is absolutely true because it's the project team who are to blame for putting the product on the market and not taking care of it very well.

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I posted in threads these accounts last posted:


There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
Aside from the merit transfer, did they break any other forum or bounty rules? Simply putting a neutral tag on their accounts may be enough to warn bounty managers that these accounts are likely to be alts.

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First of all, I apologize for being late in responding to this, because actually we are very busy every day serving customers in our shop so this has been neglected and this is not something we did on purpose.
The four of us actually work in a computer shop in our area and one day the personal devices that Davian144 and Bestcoin1 often use suffered a slight damage that required repairs and also upgrading the components of the device to a better version because they did not have enough funds. to buy a new device.

And because previously Lantind and I also wanted to upgrade the devices we had, so we also decided to do it simultaneously because considering we work in the same place so it can be easier to do this. So because this is what forces us to use the same device, namely the computer at our workplace to do routine postings alternately. Because we don't usually post via the smartphones we have.

Which on that computer at that time could not access Imgur unless we had to use a VPN, the place where we used it to upload the images we needed. So we are all forced to use the imgbb site to upload images and usually we also never make any edits to the screenshots we take. This is what actually happened, please understand.

Once again sorry for the delay

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May 16, 2022, 02:42:53 PM
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There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
Aside from the merit transfer, did they break any other forum or bounty rules? Simply putting a neutral tag on their accounts may be enough to warn bounty managers that these accounts are likely to be alts.
100% these accounts are operated by one person. He slipped up in a couple of ways that are overwhelmingly pointing towards it.

First of all, I apologize for being late in responding to this, because actually we are very busy every day serving customers in our shop so this has been neglected and this is not something we did on purpose.
The four of us actually work in a computer shop in our area and one day the personal devices that Davian144 and Bestcoin1 often use suffered a slight damage that required repairs and also upgrading the components of the device to a better version because they did not have enough funds. to buy a new device.

And because previously Lantind and I also wanted to upgrade the devices we had, so we also decided to do it simultaneously because considering we work in the same place so it can be easier to do this. So because this is what forces us to use the same device, namely the computer at our workplace to do routine postings alternately. Because we don't usually post via the smartphones we have.

Which on that computer at that time could not access Imgur unless we had to use a VPN, the place where we used it to upload the images we needed. So we are all forced to use the imgbb site to upload images and usually we also never make any edits to the screenshots we take. This is what actually happened, please understand.

Once again sorry for the delay
Really? How many people do you expect to believe the story you spun?

Usually there are one or two excuses given when someone tries to defend their actions but what you posted reads like a litany of excuses...

What is stopping you from coming clean and admit that you are operating not just these 4 accounts but others too?

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May 16, 2022, 02:46:10 PM
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There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
There's absolute no reason to believe they're linked simply because they all have ignored the message. That's not evidence, that's just a correlation, which as we all know doesn't equal causation. In similar effect, it doesn't really matter much whether they all reply here, two reply here or one replies here. That doesn't add anything to the evidence, at least at linking the accounts. I'm aware that one has now replied, but that simple fact doesn't change anything. Although, their explanation is down to interpretation.

English Patrol Scuad, has provided at least some evidence to why they're suspicious of the accounts, although its probably not enough in its current state. Unless, more damning evidence appears, I'm afraid not much can be done.
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What about after reading his reasons explaining the correlation between the 4 accounts? Still no reason to believe it?

There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
There's absolute no reason to believe they're linked simply because they all have ignored the message. That's not evidence, that's just a correlation, which as we all know doesn't equal causation. In similar effect, it doesn't really matter much whether they all reply here, two reply here or one replies here. That doesn't add anything to the evidence, at least at linking the accounts. I'm aware that one has now replied, but that simple fact doesn't change anything. Although, their explanation is down to interpretation.

English Patrol Scuad, has provided at least some evidence to why they're suspicious of the accounts, although its probably not enough in its current state. Unless, more damning evidence appears, I'm afraid not much can be done.

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It's funny in the very busy everyday conditions, all the accounts can still posts and reach the minimum requirement of the campaign. How can they have a times if it's really busy, anyone?

I only found Republikcoin.com, bestcoins1, and Lantind who tried to cheat a campaign, but that's doesn't mean Davian144 is free from this accusation. Because Republikcoin.com said he have a relation with Davian144, that's brought those 4 accounts into this accusation and should be tagged as well.

Both Republikcoin.com and bestcoins1 applying in the same campaign (OWL DAO signature campaign) in the same week.

posted by Republikcoin.com on 2021-12-29 11:41:08 UTC
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Your bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=470478
Your live posts count (including this one): 3022
Last 120 days earned merit amounts: 3
Your bitcoin wallet address: bc1qj04uyqvmvp3hmg4k5mysdutszd6qe6pwa689a6
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posted by bestcoins1 on 2021-12-25 05:20:58 UTC
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Your bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556241
Your live posts count (including this one): 1305
Last 120 days earned merit amounts: 10
Your bitcoin wallet address: bc1qs3fzc8ew79lreut8reyd4ygmz7ttkhspmtla7c
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Both Republikcoin.com and Lantind applying in the same campaign (PrimeDAO)

posted by Lantind on 2020-11-04 06:07:52 UTC
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#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Lantind
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=763725
Telegram Username: @Lantind
Participated Campaigns: Signature and Telegram
ETH Wallet Address: 0x8CD83CddDA5edDd594348EC2cF93dC9F1F12735f
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posted by Republikcoin.com on 2020-11-04 16:06:22 UTC
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#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Republikcoin.com
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=470478
Telegram Username: @republikcoins
Participated Campaigns: Signature Campaign
ETH Wallet Address: 0x85cf295ca2e493c7e3770e9083753e1d862ab88f
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5. Using multiple accounts, cheating, and spamming are not allowed. You will be disqualified from the bounty program immediately and all of your accounts will be banned permanently.
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This what those 4 people looks like:




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May 16, 2022, 04:37:33 PM
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There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
There's absolute no reason to believe they're linked simply because they all have ignored the message. That's not evidence, that's just a correlation, <cut>

No ... I didn't think it was evidence. It just seemed unlikely that all four would ignore this topic and personal messages from other members, despite being active in the forum. Though I agree that I could have worded it differently.

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May 16, 2022, 08:48:54 PM
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What about after reading his reasons explaining the correlation between the 4 accounts? Still no reason to believe it?
For me, something isn't quite adding up. I don't know if that's because of the language barrier or if what they're saying is accurate. If it's accurate I wouldn't say that's evidence of anything, but rather something that should potentially be taken into consideration if more damning evidence is found.

I like facts, and even though I find their reasoning, and counter argument not convincing at all. That's isn't exactly evidence to me. Now, my personal opinion is something fishy is going on, and that's why I think there's merit to definitely investigate it further, and I wouldn't be surprised if the accounts are connected. However, that's just my personal interpretation, I can't act on that.

No ... I didn't think it was evidence. It just seemed unlikely that all four would ignore this topic and personal messages from other members, despite being active in the forum. Though I agree that I could have worded it differently.
In that case, that might well be true. Although, now three have ignored it, and one responded. Does that change anything for you? Personally, it doesn't for me, and that was my original point. I'm not saying you're wrong in what your saying, just giving my two cents. I imagine plenty of users will disagree with me, and that's why we have a trust system setup like it is.
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I only found Republikcoin.com, bestcoins1, and Lantind who tried to cheat a campaign, but that's doesn't mean Davian144 is free from this accusation. Because Republikcoin.com said he have a relation with Davian144, that's brought those 4 accounts into this accusation and should be tagged as well.

Is it wrong if a friend invites his friend to work ?
We know the rules of the campaign where everyone is not allowed to connect with each other and that is something we haven't done for a long time so we never connected until now because we always uphold the rules of this campaign and forum, even though in real life we are friends because we work in the same place.
And so far we have not cheated anyone and have never harmed anyone here because each account you say is owned by a different person.
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Is it wrong if a friend invites his friend to work ?
We know the rules of the campaign where everyone is not allowed to connect with each other and that is something we haven't done for a long time so we never connected until now because we always uphold the rules of this campaign and forum, even though in real life we are friends because we work in the same place.
And so far we have not cheated anyone and have never harmed anyone here because each account you say is owned by a different person.

May I ask a direct question? Your account has a registration date of 2012. Is this your account from the start?

What can you say about the Koreadi account?

Why do I have such a question?

Koreadi account was selling social media accounts after he wanted to exchange them for a high-ranking account on this forum.

Gan ade mau barter akun facebook(teman full 5000) dan Twitter (5000 follower) dengan akun full member ataupun akun newbie, jr.member & member yang berpotensi, kalau minat PM me

Di jual akun Twitter & Facebook

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Akun facebooknya berapa yang aktifnya gan?
Dan follower twitternya real atau bukan gan? Tembus audit berapa akun twitternya?
silahkan cek aja sendiri gan

Ini link fb nya :
https://m.facebook.com/siBitcoiner?ref=bookmarks

Ini link twitternya: https://mobile.twitter.com/NSinyonya



But according to reports, I see that no one was seduced by such an exchange, from which it can be concluded that you still bought someone else's account.

coba agan tawar atau di nego, ni thread orang yang jual akun Jr member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2344537.0
sudah ane pm gan, tapi ngak ada respon gan, ane mau beli akun apa aja gan buat nyoba ikut bounty


Manpir ke sini gan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2244030.0

Di sana ada yang menjualnya gan

If you say that you know the rules of the forum, then you should know that buying other people's accounts is not welcome.

I can guess the same thing about what your friends did.

ada dana berapa gan?? kemarin temen ane ada yang ingin dijual gan, jr semua,
cantumkan nama akun jr.member yang mau di jual gan, kawan ane pada butuh gan, termasuk ane

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