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April 13, 2022, 02:24:20 PM
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I don't really focus too much on RTP and RNG related stuff since reputation of a casino(FIAT or Crypto) matters more to me in comparison. If a casino has a solid reputation, I deposit and gamble away.

If it has a bad reputation, I avoid it like the plague. I have never been scammed so far thanks to researching the reputation of whichever casinos that I played in thoroughly.

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April 13, 2022, 02:40:20 PM
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They may be reliable because if not then we should be earning too much already and most of casinos are now bankrupt by this time because what rtp is shown on the game is not always the rtp that you will get.
(This is just my personal view, do not rely on me for your finance related decisions).

Slots gained popularity because it's one of the early games. There are already slots game via the machines in real life casinos but online gambling that time is not that popular and yes it's so simple and easy to play, no wonder why it's being preferred by the many. All they want to do is to insert a coin on the slot (not the slot game) if it's a machine and pull the lever but on online slots, no need to insert coin, you can just type if how much bet you want to place and then click that spin button.
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April 13, 2022, 02:41:10 PM
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I don't really focus too much on RTP and RNG related stuff since the reputation of a casino(FIAT or Crypto) matters more to me in comparison. If a casino has a solid reputation, I deposit and gamble away.

If it has a bad reputation, I avoid it like the plague. I have never been scammed so far thanks to researching the reputation of whichever casinos that I played in thoroughly.

A keen gambler would always check on the reputation, reviews, and trust rate of a casino site rather than RTP because once a casino site has good feedback, it already affects the whole performance and services that they offer. Positive and reliable ratings for me are already enough.
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April 13, 2022, 02:41:50 PM
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As a normal gambler and no background on checking the code for reliability, I only rely on the Casino license since a casino undergo to an audit on all thi RTP and fairness of there software. Most the game provider is close sourced and they only open share there game code on license company so as user and gambler. We have no choice to fully trust the Casino license on there games especially those games that using RNG method for the fairness of the game.
Closed source indeed and we dont have any choice but to trust them whether their game are fair or not but as a gambler we could really able to notice it out on the first place when we are testing out the
game and you would really able to feel out that there's something wrong with it.So it would really be just common sense that it would be ideal to stick out with reputable or popular ones which you could
somewhat assure that you are dealing with a fair site.

There's no way that you could able to check out and verify if those slots are fair.Lets just set aside those mind boggling questions and doubts yet this would only stress you out and make out these
assumptions.

The OP's question is hard to determine as it is not publicly available, even if you ask from the casino itself. If you are worried about this aspect, then, better play on reputable casinos with gambling license. At least, the chance of screwing up their players is very low. Because they won't make the mistake of introducing the game with questionable RTP or provable fairness. So this one, is not the usual question of a player to a casino but it is more on how trustworthy is the casino you are playing with?
As a regular gamblers, I guess they let it remain their secret because as long as the casino has a gambling license, they will not try to commit fraud that could arouse the suspicion of the players. The player will never try to play in a casino that he does not know. I think we can trust a trusted casino that can give fairness to every game. It all has to exist, but we also have the choice not to believe it and if we don't believe it, it's better not to gamble at all so that we don't have to suspect everything.

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April 13, 2022, 03:27:03 PM
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Not a pro on these fields but other third-party auditors and independent sources are checking the reliability and the integrity of these casinos with such algorithms. They themselves probably play on these platforms, and if they see any irregularities on the way the algorithm behaves, they would then try to dig deeper and check whether or not the algorithm is to be trusted or not. Of course, they can publish reports that have some tinge of malice in it, and it's really the judgment and due diligence of the player that will matter the most in the end.

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April 13, 2022, 03:33:30 PM
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I feel like its a great option, I started using online casinos and online sportsbooks when the pandemic started. And regarding the reliability, I think its something you can use without any doubt
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April 13, 2022, 08:30:18 PM
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IMO, even the provider give you the number RTP of their slot.

The only problem, you can't really vouch or check anything for the RTP is that really true or not. We only have "trust" in them, the RTP is what they say. Also, is business scheme they are not gonna share anything about their code or technology.

Even you are their customer using the provider..

Yes the Slot provider provides different options for the RTP for every Slot.. and the gambling site will then tell the Slot provider what RTP they will use. (that is how it was explained to me)  The casino can request a change in the RTP ...so it is not fixed.

We have recently even saw Slots with multiple RTPs ..... "The Bowery Boys" Slot from Hacksaw Gaming has multiple RTPs, namely 96.41% | 94.30% | 92.19% | 88.45% ....so it's getting pretty confusing now.  Roll Eyes   .....then we have not even talked about "Variance" yet.  Roll Eyes

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April 13, 2022, 09:06:27 PM
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I don't really focus too much on RTP and RNG related stuff since reputation of a casino(FIAT or Crypto) matters more to me in comparison. If a casino has a solid reputation, I deposit and gamble away.

If it has a bad reputation, I avoid it like the plague. I have never been scammed so far thanks to researching the reputation of whichever casinos that I played in thoroughly.
That is the way I think as well, I can understand that people are always looking for the best odds on their bets, bonuses, cashback and anything that gives them a slightly higher chance of winning, as even if we gamble for fun at the end of the day we want to win even if we know that over the long term this is not possible, however by far the most important characteristic that a casino must have is to be trustworthy, because even if the casino does not offer the best bonuses you know you will be able to withdraw your remaining capital without a problem.

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April 15, 2022, 07:47:23 PM
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Not a pro on these fields but other third-party auditors and independent sources are checking the reliability and the integrity of these casinos with such algorithms. They themselves probably play on these platforms, and if they see any irregularities on the way the algorithm behaves, they would then try to dig deeper and check whether or not the algorithm is to be trusted or not. Of course, they can publish reports that have some tinge of malice in it, and it's really the judgment and due diligence of the player that will matter the most in the end.
The standard of having a third party audit the code was enough for most people, but since cryptocurrency casinos appeared and gave the opportunity to the players to verify the results were not changed after the fact I do not see this as enough and I am sure many people agree with me, unless I can see the results for myself then there will always be some kind of lingering doubt within myself about the results, which is why I do not gamble in any game in which I cannot verify the results on my own.
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April 16, 2022, 03:38:20 PM
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Not a pro on these fields but other third-party auditors and independent sources are checking the reliability and the integrity of these casinos with such algorithms. They themselves probably play on these platforms, and if they see any irregularities on the way the algorithm behaves, they would then try to dig deeper and check whether or not the algorithm is to be trusted or not. Of course, they can publish reports that have some tinge of malice in it, and it's really the judgment and due diligence of the player that will matter the most in the end.
The standard of having a third party audit the code was enough for most people, but since cryptocurrency casinos appeared and gave the opportunity to the players to verify the results were not changed after the fact I do not see this as enough and I am sure many people agree with me, unless I can see the results for myself then there will always be some kind of lingering doubt within myself about the results, which is why I do not gamble in any game in which I cannot verify the results on my own.

Same here but there are reputable gambling providers isn't? Although I can't verify in most of their games but I trust some of them but yes you are right it still different if you can verify your bets I usually do verify my bets when losing bets consecutively and so far I can verify and tell that it is all legitimate.

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April 16, 2022, 03:43:15 PM
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Not a pro on these fields but other third-party auditors and independent sources are checking the reliability and the integrity of these casinos with such algorithms. They themselves probably play on these platforms, and if they see any irregularities on the way the algorithm behaves, they would then try to dig deeper and check whether or not the algorithm is to be trusted or not. Of course, they can publish reports that have some tinge of malice in it, and it's really the judgment and due diligence of the player that will matter the most in the end.
The standard of having a third party audit the code was enough for most people, but since cryptocurrency casinos appeared and gave the opportunity to the players to verify the results were not changed after the fact I do not see this as enough and I am sure many people agree with me, unless I can see the results for myself then there will always be some kind of lingering doubt within myself about the results, which is why I do not gamble in any game in which I cannot verify the results on my own.

Same here but there are reputable gambling providers isn't? Although I can't verify in most of their games but I trust some of them but yes you are right it still different if you can verify your bets I usually do verify my bets when losing bets consecutively and so far I can verify and tell that it is all legitimate.

At what extent you can verify your bet as legit? I mean the result is always random and the casino usually use RNG to determine the winning bet but the problem is they can't provide the exact source for that RNG software to verify it. This will just make a chain of doubt because you will question the game software>RNG>Audit and so on until you will stop and just believe that the result is fair.

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April 16, 2022, 03:50:33 PM
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Not a pro on these fields but other third-party auditors and independent sources are checking the reliability and the integrity of these casinos with such algorithms. They themselves probably play on these platforms, and if they see any irregularities on the way the algorithm behaves, they would then try to dig deeper and check whether or not the algorithm is to be trusted or not. Of course, they can publish reports that have some tinge of malice in it, and it's really the judgment and due diligence of the player that will matter the most in the end.
The standard of having a third party audit the code was enough for most people, but since cryptocurrency casinos appeared and gave the opportunity to the players to verify the results were not changed after the fact I do not see this as enough and I am sure many people agree with me, unless I can see the results for myself then there will always be some kind of lingering doubt within myself about the results, which is why I do not gamble in any game in which I cannot verify the results on my own.

In fairness, these attempts at "provably fair" setups are a major step forward when it comes to casino play. In comparison to a real world casino which can have all sorts of settings and leave the player absolutely at the mercy of an opaque system, it offers at least a shred of extra credibility. I'm sure it varies country to country, but I do not know if there is a consistent auditing method for these real casinos beyond making sure that the games do not lose money - the payouts can almost definitely be manipulated on demand. In some places like Vegas where player reward cards are swiped in, this makes it even easier for them to regulate any potential profits you might make as you move around.

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April 16, 2022, 04:04:22 PM
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Positive and reliable ratings for me are already enough.

Rating sites don't seem very credible as a basis for trust, let's call it the most popular Trustpilot. Ad managers may employ sockpuppets to provide false ratings and reviews.
I even prefer to read user experience reviews on this forum as my main consideration for choosing a casino, where customer service is also a discussion.

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April 16, 2022, 04:39:57 PM
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Positive and reliable ratings for me are already enough.

Rating sites don't seem very credible as a basis for trust, let's call it the most popular Trustpilot. Ad managers may employ sockpuppets to provide false ratings and reviews.
I even prefer to read user experience reviews on this forum as my main consideration for choosing a casino, where customer service is also a discussion.

Me too Smiley I would choose to believe those reviews from real experienced gamblers that already played on a site. For me those are more reliable than to those sites that are paid to by the casino itself to review them. I also see a lot of casino review sites which has a good review on those casinos that are known to be scamming people.

Discussing that, I've seen one thread recently on Services board that offers some crypto for real users to publish a review to his site.
This is the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382433.0

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Positive and reliable ratings for me are already enough.

Rating sites don't seem very credible as a basis for trust, let's call it the most popular Trustpilot. Ad managers may employ sockpuppets to provide false ratings and reviews.
I even prefer to read user experience reviews on this forum as my main consideration for choosing a casino, where customer service is also a discussion.
^ That is why I did not trust any gambling review sites that have their review on the casino because I know that they don't actually experience playing on that casino. It should be the review was come from the community like individual people who truly experience using the site not only the author of the website gambling interview. How much more TrustPilot which is a very well-known gambling review site that can be manipulated by them. So a gambling casino that has good feedback is for sure a trusted casino.
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April 16, 2022, 09:03:44 PM
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Positive and reliable ratings for me are already enough.

Rating sites don't seem very credible as a basis for trust, let's call it the most popular Trustpilot. Ad managers may employ sockpuppets to provide false ratings and reviews.
I even prefer to read user experience reviews on this forum as my main consideration for choosing a casino, where customer service is also a discussion.
Reviews should really not be your basis, its bette to analyze it on your own and experience the whole thing by yourself. If you still believe on a good platform that pays fairly then you should do your part as well. To lessen the stress of doing this, you can try to gamble on the top gambling site and you can easily know if its worth it to play with them or not.
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April 16, 2022, 09:18:48 PM
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Positive and reliable ratings for me are already enough.

Rating sites don't seem very credible as a basis for trust, let's call it the most popular Trustpilot. Ad managers may employ sockpuppets to provide false ratings and reviews.
I even prefer to read user experience reviews on this forum as my main consideration for choosing a casino, where customer service is also a discussion.
Reviews should really not be your basis, its bette to analyze it on your own and experience the whole thing by yourself. If you still believe on a good platform that pays fairly then you should do your part as well. To lessen the stress of doing this, you can try to gamble on the top gambling site and you can easily know if its worth it to play with them or not.

Every individual has his/her own preferences and interests. It is impossible to choose the best online casino for everyone simply because people have different preferences and interests. For example, for a new player who has never gambled before, making the first step into the gambling world may seem overwhelming, and most probably such a person prefers a safe, relaxed and comfortable casino that will allow him to ease into the web casino industry. On the other hand, for professional gamblers, the situation may be different because they are usually looking for the most rewarding and challenging online casino they can possibly play at. Therefore, choosing the right online casino for the right kind of gambler may seem difficult, but that does not mean it is impossible.

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I feel like its a great option, I started using online casinos and online sportsbooks when the pandemic started. And regarding the reliability, I think its something you can use without any doubt

The online casinos give you a far better gambling experience as you can play anytime, anywhere and you do not need to be present at the physical casino. Also, there are many online gambling casinos to choose from and play. The only thing which i consider important is the gambling casino feedback from the players. If the feedback is good and the casino is trusted I will surely play at that casino.

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April 16, 2022, 10:40:07 PM
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I feel like its a great option, I started using online casinos and online sportsbooks when the pandemic started. And regarding the reliability, I think its something you can use without any doubt

The online casinos give you a far better gambling experience as you can play anytime, anywhere and you do not need to be present at the physical casino. Also, there are many online gambling casinos to choose from and play. The only thing which i consider important is the gambling casino feedback from the players. If the feedback is good and the casino is trusted I will surely play at that casino.

This is the benefit of knowing this forum and this gambling boards. You will already get a very good insights which casinos are worth looking at. Sometimes, you don't need outside reviews anymore because reading all the discussion threads here and their respective threads will give you idea on how they are treating their players. What I like about online casinos is you can really play small if you just want to have a past time but not incurring huge losses. In terms of reliability, I just based on their reputation in general. I don't dwell much of the provably fairness as the casino's reputation itself will give you their credibility.
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