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April 16, 2022, 11:31:26 PM
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The stop-loss strategy has been used for our benefit.
It helps to cut you down from losing more and this become useful during the bear season. Thus, if you are in trading, you can really appreciate its importance, in fact, the majority of the traders had used this for the said reason.

It is GOOD or BAD? Depends on what is your purpose for using this but for me, it was a useful strategy.
If you are trading for good profits and would not want to mess up and lose them, trading using stop loss will definitely work. It will give you guarantee that you are not going to lose much, even if you will not closely monitor all your investments. As you will have no uncontrollable losses due to high volatility because you have set your price already when to sell if the price decline will keep on dropping. However, if you are seeing stop loss not for your own benefits, then its clear that it makes no sense for you.

The function of the stop-loss feature is to prevent us from experiencing bigger losses when the coins we buy fall drastically in price. Moreover,
we are trading on shitcoins or meme coins, in my opinion it is highly recommended to use the stop-loss feature, because we know shitcoins or
meme coins will take a long time to recover if the price has dropped. But if we trade popular coins, there is no need to use the stop-loss feature,
because the possibility to recover is quite fast. Unless we do day trading, which has a profit target in a short time, then using stop-loss is a must.
Actually we use the stop-loss feature depending on the market situation, and also the strategy we use. Therefore it depends on each of our
trading strategies, as long as we are correct in using the stop-loss feature, of course the stop-loss feature is a good thing.

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April 16, 2022, 11:57:40 PM
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The function of the stop-loss feature is to prevent us from experiencing bigger losses when the coins we buy fall drastically in price.

I totally agree, Stop loss has an important role to avoid bigger losses. And I think this is safe and highly recommended. Therefore, before entering the market, determine how much loss we are willing to let go.

If you don't use a stop loss, I'm afraid that if something unwanted happens when we can't monitor the market, it will result in a loss all of funds.

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April 17, 2022, 03:00:32 AM
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The function of the stop-loss feature is to prevent us from experiencing bigger losses when the coins we buy fall drastically in price.

I totally agree, Stop loss has an important role to avoid bigger losses. And I think this is safe and highly recommended. Therefore, before entering the market, determine how much loss we are willing to let go.

If you don't use a stop loss, I'm afraid that if something unwanted happens when we can't monitor the market, it will result in a loss all of funds.

Sometimes we see a big unexpected bitcoin dump of 1000-2000$ within 2 to 4 hours. In such a case, the altcoins dump by 30-40% or even more. In this case, if you have stop loss placed your position will be quit by hitting the stop loss and later you can buy can the same coin in cheap rates.
Without the stop loss, you will keep on holding the coins in the spot and we never know how long you will have to wait until the market recovers to your buying price. This is only for those who are doing spot trading, your account will be liquated if you're in future trade without stop loss.

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April 17, 2022, 09:02:05 AM
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Sometimes we see a big unexpected bitcoin dump of 1000-2000$ within 2 to 4 hours. In such a case, the altcoins dump by 30-40% or even more. In this case, if you have stop loss placed your position will be quit by hitting the stop loss and later you can buy can the same coin in cheap rates.
Without the stop loss, you will keep on holding the coins in the spot and we never know how long you will have to wait until the market recovers to your buying price. This is only for those who are doing spot trading, your account will be liquated if you're in future trade without stop loss.

The problem is that very often after dumping bitcoins of $1000-2000, the price almost immediately returns to its previous value. And if you had a stop loss set, then at such moments a position is very often closed, usually at a loss. We can say that the stop loss was set incorrectly, but the bottom line is that it is for this reason that many ignore the use of stop loss.

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April 17, 2022, 01:58:16 PM
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The problem is that very often after dumping bitcoins of $1000-2000, the price almost immediately returns to its previous value. And if you had a stop loss set, then at such moments a position is very often closed, usually at a loss. We can say that the stop loss was set incorrectly, but the bottom line is that it is for this reason that many ignore the use of stop loss.
The bottom line is to prevent unexpected crash when price hits then crashes under your stop loss price very quickly. If around your stop loss price is actually a bottom, when the market confirms it, you can buy back and enjoy the bounce.

By using stop loss order, you intentionally want to avoid crashes. It is super useful especially when you sleep or offline. Stop loss order will save you in such time and such crashes. Nothing works perfect and I believe it is what you actually implied.

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April 17, 2022, 02:38:45 PM
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I have traded and analyzed several charts and I have come to a conclusion that trading with a stop loss is the easiest way to lose money and not a safety net because if your analysis is correct what happens most of the times is markets go for the stop losses which takes you out of the market and price turns to your predicted direction after the stop hunt which many consider as market manipulations.

That probably you don't set it properly. I could tell you that it was not because of the strategy you have used, it is the way how you used it.
In fact, why some traders are comfortably using this? It was because they know the function of the STOP-LOSS strategy which they found out that was really helping them and saving them from losing more.

Anyways, we can't appreciate things that won't work for us. We have to accept that not all strategies will work for everyone and it just happen on you, though.

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April 17, 2022, 02:57:49 PM
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Stop loss is good and bad. It is a two edge sword.
To say but the least, if you open a trade and very sure you can  watch your screen consistently, there is no need for stop loss, just allow your strategy to play out.
Then, if you cannot watch your screen for any reason, please do not risk it, use stop loss.

Stop loss is a tool used by the weak hands to stop loss while same stop loss is used by the strong hands to create liquidity.  It works for both the weak and the strong.

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April 17, 2022, 04:07:29 PM
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More important here is how to use this tool correctly. It is important to understand that the most important aspect in the process of using this tool is profit.
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April 17, 2022, 05:23:03 PM
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Sometimes we see a big unexpected bitcoin dump of 1000-2000$ within 2 to 4 hours. In such a case, the altcoins dump by 30-40% or even more. In this case, if you have stop loss placed your position will be quit by hitting the stop loss and later you can buy can the same coin in cheap rates.
Without the stop loss, you will keep on holding the coins in the spot and we never know how long you will have to wait until the market recovers to your buying price. This is only for those who are doing spot trading, your account will be liquated if you're in future trade without stop loss.

Right. Maybe for the spot we can handle it with DCA (dollar cost average) when making a purchase which can help us get an average coin purchase at a low price, and this has proven to be effective even though the coin price drops we are able to make a profit, but this has certain conditions - if we are in a bearish trend then we will finish, as you said we were carried away by a price decline of up to 40% more. If there is no stop loss then this will be a loss if we don't hold it until the price rises again.

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April 17, 2022, 06:54:04 PM
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good or bad?, of course GOOD!. because stop lose will keep you from BIG LOSE!,
you should be able to put a stop loss even if it makes you sad,
it is the first time trading and experiencing a loss is very painful,
but it is a big mistake if you let your coins or investments try to sell them when the bear market arrives,
and do a buy back, then your money or capital can come back again.

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I have traded and analyzed several charts and I have come to a conclusion that trading with a stop loss is the easiest way to lose money and not a safety net because if your analysis is correct what happens most of the times is markets go for the stop losses which takes you out of the market and price turns to your predicted direction after the stop hunt which many consider as market manipulations.

So is using a stop loss good or bad?

Do we have traders that trade without them, if yes what's your win ratio using this strategy?
Using stop-loss is the only way to actually become a successful trader other than that there is no way to be successful to be very honest, yes you are right that the market may do stop loss hunting and hit your stop loss just to come back up the very next moment, there are two solutions for it, either just consider it as a normal market play and adjust your success ratio accordingly, or put a mental stop loss in your mind instead of a system stop loss, people generally put mental stop loss so that they can sell after the close of the candle to ensure it's not just hunting, but this obviously makes things difficult, as you might just keep the trade emotionally instead of letting it go. Also, chances are you might end up selling at a much lower price waiting for the candle to close. So it's all upto you to choose one way out because eventually, you have to adjust yourself according to the market.
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smart traders of course will give a stop loss in every trading position, this applies to all types,
spot trading or futures trading, on the spot stop loss is not very influential,
because maybe the price could return there even though it has been dumped,
but in the future, without stop lose you will lose your capital
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smart traders of course will give a stop loss in every trading position, this applies to all types,
spot trading or futures trading, on the spot stop loss is not very influential,
because maybe the price could return there even though it has been dumped,
but in the future, without stop lose you will lose your capital
Smart trader always use top loss what ever kind of trading between spot or future keep safety assets and take recovery back when price drop, several trader looks as long term investor without use stop loss but risk with future trading without have bigger fund for back up away from liquidity. But still effective without stop loss on spot trading but really need waiting long term and more patience for reaching higher price later, but several smart trader take stop loss and got loss few percent than become long term holding or become several years with investor after price drop.

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April 18, 2022, 02:17:47 PM
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smart traders of course will give a stop loss in every trading position, this applies to all types,
spot trading or futures trading, on the spot stop loss is not very influential,
because maybe the price could return there even though it has been dumped,
but in the future, without stop lose you will lose your capital
Smart trader always use top loss what ever kind of trading between spot or future keep safety assets and take recovery back when price drop, several trader looks as long term investor without use stop loss but risk with future trading without have bigger fund for back up away from liquidity. But still effective without stop loss on spot trading but really need waiting long term and more patience for reaching higher price later, but several smart trader take stop loss and got loss few percent than become long term holding or become several years with investor after price drop.
not all traders like placing stop losses, some of them have free time, or indeed their job is to trade, they prefer to use cutloss, stop losses are only used when they leave the trading room, so it doesn't burden their minds while outside the room. basically both have the same function, it's just that the difference between manual and automatic, so basically every trade has a risk, and we must be able to cut losses to wait for the next opportunity

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I'd been doing both. There's always the cons and pros. Depends on your risk management. Over the years I mostly preferred the no stop-loss strategy to avoid sl hunters and manipulations. But currently I am convinced that I really need sl on my trades. There were a lot of wasted opportunities but it did saved me from further losses. Sl also helped me to discipline and control myself especially that I am more of a risk-taker attitude as proven on my past years financial decisions. 

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April 18, 2022, 02:42:05 PM
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More important here is how to use this tool correctly. It is important to understand that the most important aspect in the process of using this tool is profit.
From years experience stop loss is a must. And yeah I agree using it correctly is so important. It saved me so many times when market went hard down.
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Generally speaking, stop loss is a good feature an exchange can offer. It allows the trader to automatically exit and prevent more losses. If you use it properly, you'll find it really helpful. As what I've said, it will help you save some time and of course save money from the potential lose. It's bad, if you are poor in using it. I use it in ~60% of my trades.

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Smart trader always use top loss what ever kind of trading between spot or future keep safety assets and take recovery back when price drop, several trader looks as long term investor without use stop loss but risk with future trading without have bigger fund for back up away from liquidity. But still effective without stop loss on spot trading but really need waiting long term and more patience for reaching higher price later, but several smart trader take stop loss and got loss few percent than become long term holding or become several years with investor after price drop.
Stop loss is for the people who like to trade quickly, there are some of us who think that trading could be turned into investment as well. Like for example if I buy something and it goes up 5% in a day or a week, then I will sell and make a profit. However, if it goes down 10%, then I will buy some more, usually the same amount and then that will cause the average to be lower, if it keeps going lower then I will keep on buying more and that's how I make my profit, without needing to sell out and wait to get back in.

This means I would have to wait a lot longer, there are times when I waited 2 years to sell something, sometimes it's just a few weeks, but all in all I started with the mindset of selling as soon as it reaches 10% profit, and still did that no matter how long it took, a week or a year.

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it can be good or bad depending on one's strategy. when holding popular coins, I don't use stop losses, because I really believe the coin will go back up again at a very high price. Examples of these coins are bitcoin, ethereum, BNB, and so on.
however, it would be wise to use stop loss for new altcoins, or altcoins that are not included in the popular altcoins. however, I don't use stop loss on the new altcoins. I thought it would cost hundreds of dollars, because the price when I owned it was tens of dollars. Unfortunately, the price has been dropping continuously so far and is below $5. it makes me regret not using stop loss on the coin. In addition, stop loss also has a function to prevent deeper losses.

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April 19, 2022, 06:59:07 AM
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I use to see the market that way before and it does not only happen when you are in the stop lose mode, some time even your manual trading market seems to go opposite direction the moment your order get executed.

The stop lose feature have helped in my trading a lot lately as this feature allows be to automatically execution of trade if the market price goes below you set price to avoid total lose.
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