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April 11, 2022, 04:30:50 PM
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Nowadays bitcoin is connected with banking process. If bank not available. People can't change Bitcoin. So coming future it possible for changing this process. Kindly any one explain me. I need to know. Kindly support and give your adivoce. Nowadays banking is connected all country people and change the all country's currency.

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April 11, 2022, 04:44:38 PM
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I don't know what will happen in the future. But whatever happens, there should be a payment system, so people can use it for their buys and sells.

How will you buy a cup of tea in the unlikely event there is no bank? You will be able to buy and sell bitcoin in the same way.
It's also possible that in the future with mass adoption of bitcoin, you can buy and sell everything with bitcoin and there is no need to change bitcoin to fiat at all.

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April 11, 2022, 05:59:36 PM
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You can always use P2P exchanges and thus there is no need for banks to be involved .
This method you are generally exchanging with another person.
Examples of P2P exchanges include -

Paxful - https://paxful.com/

Localbitcoins - https://localbitcoins.com/

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April 12, 2022, 04:00:13 AM
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Nowadays bitcoin is connected with banking process. If bank not available. People can't change Bitcoin. So coming future it possible for changing this process. Kindly any one explain me. I need to know. Kindly support and give your adivoce. Nowadays banking is connected all country people and change the all country's currency.

That is not going to change anytime soon. There are couple of options available though where one can get their bitcoins exchanged against cash without going through banking route. But due to local laws on cash, many people are not able to make use of it. It is also risky to a certain extent because your identity will be revealed through this process. So I don't see the banking process changing anytime soon.

Banking system has been deep rooted within the structure of the society. It is next to impossible to avoid its influence and also the convenience provided by it.

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April 12, 2022, 04:36:49 AM
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We are not able to predict how the development of technology in the future will definitely be more advanced.
Of course, it is not impossible or difficult to use bitcoin because every system created in the future will certainly make its performance and regulations even more streamlined or technological tools so that it is easy for us to cash out bitcoins in general.
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April 12, 2022, 04:51:09 AM
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Just like what Mbitr said, you don't need a bank to really operate or exchange Bitcoin. If there is someone that agrees to exchange at a specific rate with you, then you could exchange with that. I think the one thing you are worried about is the transferring of the fiat that's why banks are still involved. If that's the case, there's nothing to be worried about because banking is not going anywhere.

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April 12, 2022, 04:55:43 AM
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Nowadays bitcoin is connected with banking process. If bank not available. People can't change Bitcoin. So coming future it possible for changing this process. Kindly any one explain me. I need to know. Kindly support and give your adivoce. Nowadays banking is connected all country people and change the all country's currency.
I Don't know in your country but Here in ours? is not only Banks that we can exchange our crypto ,there are many ways where we can have fiat traded in bitcoin.
There are p2p system mate when you and your fellow countryman will exchange of His fiat yo your Bitcoin.
We are not able to predict how the development of technology in the future will definitely be more advanced.
Of course, it is not impossible or difficult to use bitcoin because every system created in the future will certainly make its performance and regulations even more streamlined or technological tools so that it is easy for us to cash out bitcoins in general.
But at least we know what option to use if we are looking for our Bitcoin to be converted in fiat., and those are being mentioned above already.

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April 12, 2022, 05:21:41 AM
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You could buy Bitcoin using gift cards(on Paxful) or by using online payment services like Paypal,Skrill,Neteller,Paxum,Cashapp,Venmo,the list goes on and on.
Is this risky?Of course it is,but at least it's an alternative of buying BTC with money from your bank account.
Like it or not,the banking services are the most convenient and user friendly.I'm talking about the banks in my country.I don't know about the banks in other countries.Perhaps this has something to do with the regulatory frame regarding banking services.
Anyway,OP you should improve your English.I could barely understand what you were trying to say.

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April 12, 2022, 05:27:38 AM
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Nowadays bitcoin is connected with banking process. If bank not available. People can't change Bitcoin.
What are you even talking about?!!
Bitcoin is not "connected" to anything, it is a stand alone currency that is working for over a decade. People don't need to exchange their bitcoin either, it is a currency that can be used just like any other currency meaning you get paid in bitcoin (you are in a signature campaign so you should already know it!!!) and you can directly spend bitcoin.

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April 12, 2022, 05:32:34 AM
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Where I come from (and in other countries in Latin America) you can buy bitcoin directly by joining a Telegram / Whatsapp channel of people who are looking to either sell or buy.

That's what I do. You bring cash, they send you bitcoin, done deal. This is the only way I have ever purchased bitcoin.

Or, take for example, my friend, who was going on a sort of expensive trip and needed to sell some bitcoin that he was holding because he ran out of cash. I happily bought it from him.

I used that bitcoin to purchase web-hosting related services and a few physical goods in shops that I saw accepted bitcoin. Again, to my surprise many services accept bitcoin, not just shady ones but reputable ones like ProtonMail / ProtonVPN.

Now, I'm not saying this model works for everyone and I know we're nowhere close to mass adoption if it were ever to happen. Bank statements are very important for certain things (applying for loans, visas and residences to different countries) but I for one keep less and less money in the banks. I talk around locally to people and see who is interested in bitcoin, surprisingly more people than I thought know about it, but of course, still not enough.
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Where I come from (and in other countries in Latin America) you can buy bitcoin directly by joining a Telegram / Whatsapp channel of people who are looking to either sell or buy.

That's what I do. You bring cash, they send you bitcoin, done deal. This is the only way I have ever purchased bitcoin.

Or, take for example, my friend, who was going on a sort of expensive trip and needed to sell some bitcoin that he was holding because he ran out of cash. I happily bought it from him.

I used that bitcoin to purchase web-hosting related services and a few physical goods in shops that I saw accepted bitcoin. Again, to my surprise many services accept bitcoin, not just shady ones but reputable ones like ProtonMail / ProtonVPN.

Now, I'm not saying this model works for everyone and I know we're nowhere close to mass adoption if it were ever to happen. Bank statements are very important for certain things (applying for loans, visas and residences to different countries) but I for one keep less and less money in the banks. I talk around locally to people and see who is interested in bitcoin, surprisingly more people than I thought know about it, but of course, still not enough.

A lot knew about BTC in our area. They just don't have the means to acquire BTC for even if BTC is meant for the unbanked, we need banks still.

Its where is KYC comes in. Somehow there is no escape to it when you cash out BTC unless you do a transaction with cash on hand. Bitcoin still will not stand on its own without the current banking system. Even the apps like the Strike, they ask KYC and if they intend to ask employment record for the funds source, many of my friends will likely not be able to use this app anymore.


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April 12, 2022, 07:06:17 AM
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To add to what Mbitr and others have already said, I want you to not think of banks anytime you think of cryptocurrencies or Bitcoin. Though the banks are coexisting with bitcoin, but they are not friends of bitcoin. The bank is more rooted and loyal to the government.
Meanwhile, the bank of cryptocurrencies is exchanges. They can do all the work that banks will do.
Then, talking if Bitcoin can exist when banks are no more; but I doubt that there is a time that banks will be no more.

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Now this is a very interesting question
At the end all the money is interconnected and somewhere the dollar is mother of all the currency
Bitcoin itself is a parallel banking system with proof of work ledger system.
I am sceptic if it can exist without banking system . But i see it as an advance banking system, suiting a global governance and a free world
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April 12, 2022, 07:23:20 AM
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You can always use P2P exchanges and thus there is no need for banks to be involved .
This method you are generally exchanging with another person.
Examples of P2P exchanges include -

Paxful - https://paxful.com/

Localbitcoins - https://localbitcoins.com/

As always though - DYOR.
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The question raised by OP is, how things will function if there is no banks. This means, what is the possible solution to convert bitcoin to fiat without the involvement of bank. At present there is no possible solution for the same without a banking account. What you've mentioned localbitcoins, paxful and all were platform that connects people who want to buy and sell bitcoin. However if a person sells through localbitcoins the buyer receives the bitcoin and needs to transfer fiat. Here bank account gets involved.

In the future we'll get access to pay directly for services and products same as that we use fiat. By that time there is no need for anymore conversion process. Until then banks will have its role.

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Without banking I think bitcoin still not working yet, you can imagine how come deposit and purchase cash money to buy bitcoin and altcoin assets without use bank, maybe you can see how daily activities withdrawing cash money from cryptocurrency trough bank and here as proof cryptocurrency still need bank for deposit and withdrawing funds. I think we can't trade several bitcoin and altcoin assets without have bank, how to make deposit cash money to buy bitcoin and altcoin without help and support deposit from bank to local exchange market.
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April 12, 2022, 08:02:49 AM
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Nowadays bitcoin is connected with banking process. If bank not available. People can't change Bitcoin. So coming future it possible for changing this process. Kindly any one explain me. I need to know. Kindly support and give your adivoce. Nowadays banking is connected all country people and change the all country's currency.
Why would people want to exchange their bitcoin for fiat in the first place? That is the main problem that should be first addressed to answer your question. Instead of building a circular economy based on bitcoin, in which people will never again have a need for fiat on/off ramps, they still are trying to exchange a more reliable currency for a less reliable one. I see no reason for doing that, except for them seeking short-term profits or maybe there is the absence of necessary infrastructure or legislation to spend bitcoin directly on the things they need. Anyway, bitcoin is not battling with banks per se, it is meant to replace a flawed and obsolete system of central banks, which is, by meddling with money, artificially causing inflation, cantillionism, and other terrible things that make the poor poorer and the rich even richer. When this system is finally replaced, and we switch to bitcoin, banks will be more competitive and, therefore, more cautious about giving loans that may end up unproductive and cause bankruptcy.

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Lot will happen in the future but you don't have to be threaten by Bank, that is why many exchange ( Trading) platform have implemented P2P so if banks does not operate on accept bitcoin anymore you could easily used the p2p service. e.g, my country is being restricted from associating our local account details with bitcoin and cryptocurrencies but with the P2P service we have been able to transact within ourselves who operates with those exchangers that support p2p services today so need panicking.
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April 12, 2022, 08:19:09 AM
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Nowadays bitcoin is connected with banking process.

This may be right to an extent but also be reminded that many countries have shown displeasure in allowing their commercial banks operate in cryptocurrency transaction by placing a ban and we have it same in the opposite whereby some countries put regulation policies and tax in place for the successful run of bitcoin activities, i have two examples to give, In Nigeria and Thailand their government ban the commercial banks from performing any cryptocurrency related transaction while in UAE Dubai, their government provides a suitable regulation to convey the progress of bitcoin in their country.

People can't change Bitcoin. So coming future it possible for changing this process.

People can't exchange bitcoin using the fiat banks and that's not applicable to all countries, some countries permit that and there's a solution to that already, which is P2P. So if your country places embargo on cryptocurrency exchange using the commercial banks just simply make use of P2P



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April 12, 2022, 08:35:24 AM
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Nowadays bitcoin is connected with banking process. If bank not available. People can't change Bitcoin. So coming future it possible for changing this process. Kindly any one explain me. I need to know. Kindly support and give your adivoce. Nowadays banking is connected all country people and change the all country's currency.
Why would people want to exchange their bitcoin for fiat in the first place? That is the main problem that should be first addressed to answer your question. Instead of building a circular economy based on bitcoin, in which people will never again have a need for fiat on/off ramps, they still are trying to exchange a more reliable currency for a less reliable one. I see no reason for doing that, except for them seeking short-term profits or maybe there is the absence of necessary infrastructure or legislation to spend bitcoin directly on the things they need. Anyway, bitcoin is not battling with banks per se, it is meant to replace a flawed and obsolete system of central banks, which is, by meddling with money, artificially causing inflation, cantillionism, and other terrible things that make the poor poorer and the rich even richer. When this system is finally replaced, and we switch to bitcoin, banks will be more competitive and, therefore, more cautious about giving loans that may end up unproductive and cause bankruptcy.

this is just my thoughts, we understand the value of Bitcoin as long as its compared to something which is fiat.
or how else would we comprehend the value of BTC?
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April 12, 2022, 08:46:38 AM
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Agree in general but psst psst, go to Bisq or even Localbitcoins (not nowadays though).

There are some bankless methods to trade (buy/sell) your Bitcoin, like face-to-face cash exchange or even mobile credit, Paypal, Western Union Moneygram etc.

Don't rush into it of course, learn what to trust.


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