Why beginners should pay attention to their privacy

[n0nce]

So vpn and TOR is a must then?  What about if you want to casually browse online but privately?  Let say you use it to visit forums like this or watch tv or movie stream online?

I believe we do have a thread somewhere in off-topic or so with resources on privacy, but a few easy, quick steps that already make a difference are:

• Use an open-source browser such as Firefox, degoogled Chromium or similar.
• Use a good non-tracking search engine. Depending on how much effort you're willing to put in, this can range from switching a toggle in the browser settings to just use DuckDuckGo (and trusting them to hold their promises), all the way to hosting your own searx search engine.
• Use a PiHole DNS to block ad tracking domains.
• Use uBlock Origin to block even more trackers.
• Use NoScript to block JavaScript.
• Use DecentralEyes to improve CDN privacy.
• Use a privacy-friendly email provider or host your own email server, otherwise they can and will read all of your emails.

Most of these things you're either already doing or are easy to spin up within under half an hour for everything tops.

I would actually advise against a VPN for privacy in most cases, since it introduces a point of failure and it makes you 'stick out' more compared to looking like any other user in the regular internet traffic (smaller anonymity set, you could argue). They are also often hacked and their data leaked, or simply sell the data (if you look at the bottom of the barrel prices they're somehow able to offer). Anything that gives you a 80% off deal smells like scam to me.
Tor is good, but Tor alone is not enough and you can also achieve a good amount of privacy with the methods above and without Tor. If I don't want a website to know my IP, I do use Tor though. Better than VPN, free and easy to set up (just download Tor browser). On the other hand, if I'm targeted by a 3-letter agency, as I said, Tor won't be enough and you'll need good application-level encryption and such. For instance, you'd be looking at having a completely separate machine, bought with cash anonymously for transmitting sensitive info (if you're targeted as I said), since even with Tor and everything, you might get hacked or doxxed using various fingerprinting techniques if using your main machine.

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I don't often/ever encourage people to watch videos, but this would be 30 minutes well spent, even if you don't like his humor: Data Brokers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

Going through this video has made me fearful because I realize how careless I have been all this time while revealing my personal details/data on various websites. The worst are crypto exchanges, where I have already completed KYC in order to gain full access to their services. I am discouraged from performing KYC on any so-called exchange because no one knows where his/her personal data, which should be his/her privacy, is leading.

A good place to start taking back some control in general: https://www.privacyguides.org/
Peer to peer bitcoin trades, avoiding the privacy invasion of centralized exchanges: https://bisq.network/, https://localcryptos.com/, https://hodlhodl.com/
Run your own node, and avoiding leaking information about your addresses and transactions: https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/

I have also gone through the links provided; I found them useful and will refer to them in order to understand how to properly take control of my personal data while also avoiding data leakage.

[n0nce]

So vpn and TOR is a must then?  What about if you want to casually browse online but privately?  Let say you use it to visit forums like this or watch tv or movie stream online?

I believe we do have a thread somewhere in off-topic or so with resources on privacy, but a few easy, quick steps that already make a difference are:

• Use a PiHole DNS to block ad tracking domains.
• Use NoScript to block JavaScript.

I would hesitate those two to average person since NoScript could be tricky to configure (whether on global or website level) while PiHole only official support Linux and Docker Image.

Why though? I mean if they configure NoScript too 'open', worst case it can't be worse than without the plugin.
And PiHole is usually installed on a server or a RaspberryPi (as the name suggests) which always run Linux, and are always on. This way you can route all DNS requests in your local network through it.

[Welsh]

While NoScript can be a massive change to normal browsing, I don't think it's overly complex. You allow the scripts you believe you can trust or are comfortable with, if you don't then you don't use that website, and go to another one with the same information. NoScript actually increases decentralisation of information, otherwise people would revert to their normal searching habits, and only go to certain websites, which they'll find a bunch of them are using Facebook scripts, Google etc without them actually knowing that before.

But how many people would bother buy Raspberry Pi and initially configure Raspbian OS/PiHole?

I have, and know several others. Yeah, it might be considered niche at the moment, but we've got to consider that advertisements are starting to take over our lives, you can't go anywhere without being subjected to them. I do believe if Pihole was a tad more supported, and easier to setup people would be willing to pay the £20 for a low powered Raspberry Pi to setup an effective network wide ad blocker.

I'm actually surprised that universities, and the like don't adopt this approach, since effectively blocking them you're also increasing the security of the network, which should be top priority when there's multiple students sharing a connection.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Use an open-source browser such as Firefox, degoogled Chromium or similar.

Firefox is a good starting point, but isn't super private by default. There are a variety of guides and tools (straightforward example, more complex example) you can follow to harden it up. Alternatively, there are open source forks which are more privacy orientated, such as LibreWolf. Obviously Tor is the best.

I would only use Degoogled Chromium if you really need to use a Chromium based browser for a specific task. Despite best efforts, it is impossible to fully remove all the Google spyware embedded in to Chromium.

The worst are crypto exchanges, where I have already completed KYC in order to gain full access to their services.

If you want to stop using a centralized exchange, don't just abandon your account. Go through the process of having your account formally closed, and contact their data handling department or similar and request that all your data on their system is deleted. Success will depend on where the exchange is incorporated and where you live, and most will likely have to keep some of your data for a minimum of 5 years to comply with various regulations, but it is still better than letting them continue to store, analyze, and monetize all your data indefinitely.

[firmino10]

this bring to mind the question, who is now save?. where is our right to privacy. i believe this is a bridge of trust which is the fundamental of any relationship. are there any justifiable reason to give out peoples data?. cryto being a decentralize market should have policies that help keep peoples private data. now we are not only worried about scammers but also government agencies and some organizations. honestly this post is very educating thanks

[o_e_l_e_o]

where is our right to privacy.

You don't have one, unless you fight for it and actively avoid companies and other entities which seek to violate it.

are there any justifiable reason to give out peoples data?.

There are some. Sharing your data with other third party services which are providing you a service is one example. For example, if my bank offered me preferential rates on some insurance product from a third party as a perk of being a customer of said bank, then they would need to share my data with that insurance provider so they can complete the deal, should I instruct them to do so. What absolutely isn't justifiable is the mass surveillance that most centralized exchanges take part in, and the sharing/selling of that data with absolutely any interested third party.

cryto being a decentralize market should have policies that help keep peoples private data.

Crypto isn't the problem here. There is absolutely no requirement for data collection or privacy invasion with bitcoin. You can use bitcoin completely anonymously, if you have the knowledge and desire to do so. The problem here is centralized exchanges, and privacy considerations is but one of the reasons you should avoid them if at all possible.

[Markinzo]

Does this also apply to online surveys? Cause I have always partook in many surveys and have provided many informations and data about my self and economic conditions alike.

Secondly, does this article implies that I shouldn't always give the right informations about myself as this can affect my privacy in other areas of online businesses am involved in?

[o_e_l_e_o]

Does this also apply to online surveys? Cause I have always partook in many surveys and have provided many informations and data about my self and economic conditions alike.

Read the privacy policy of the survey sites you are using, but almost certainly they are sharing your data with third parties. What would be the point of you doing the survey if they can't share the information they collect from you? And if you are getting a reward or incentive for doing the survey, then your data is definitely being shared with even more third parties. They have to generate that revenue from somewhere, and that is from sharing or selling or data.

Secondly, does this article implies that I shouldn't always give the right informations about myself as this can affect my privacy in other areas of online businesses am involved in?

If there is no consequence to you using fake information, then there is no real reason not to do it. If you give a fake name to a centralized exchange, for example, then you will end up having your account frozen and your coins seized. But if you are signing up for an email account, a mailing list, some sort of crypto giveaway, then there is no reason not to use a fake name, email address, or other information.

[Welsh]

Does this also apply to online surveys? Cause I have always partook in many surveys and have provided many informations and data about my self and economic conditions alike.

Almost certainly selling or sharing your data. For a start, companies tend to go to mass survey providers, and therefore any data you give that survey company, will then share it to the company that asked them to do a survey, so instead of having one company have your data, you now have two companies. Plus, survey companies I would argue have an incentive to share data between all of their clients, since they're basically a honeypot for data. Personally, I would steer clear of them, especially since the downsides outweigh the rewards.

Generally, anything that's offering a reward for information from you, is almost certainly sharing that data on the mass.

[n0nce]

Does this also apply to online surveys? Cause I have always partook in many surveys and have provided many informations and data about my self and economic conditions alike.

Generally, anything that's offering a reward for information from you, is almost certainly sharing that data on the mass.

Heck, even most sites and services that offer no rewards at all collect and sell data! Of course anything people submit in these stupid surveys is sold for very good money. That's actually pretty much one of the worst things you could ever do for privacy - directly giving away your 'data about [yourself] and [your] economic conditions'. 

[darxiaomi]

Sorry for being late to this post.

With the issue of privacy today it is more complicated every day, for my part, as I am not a specialist in computer science or cybersecurity, I use very simple techniques, but they can be useful to many.

- Multiple email addresses, which do not coincide with different platforms. Example my personal Gmail account does not match my Gmail account on my cell phone. (I know that the same if they wanted to link me).

-More different addresses for not so "official" sites and others for sites where I manage money.

-Never navigate from the computer with Gmail open and if I leave one open I leave one from a company.

-Never use chrome (except when there is no other option left for some compatibility).


Thus, I feel that there is a point that we cannot skip and that is our Achilles heel, which is under our own fingers and we always use it. YES the KEYBOARD.
Many times I feel that on the cell phone keyboard, no matter how much I use a special incognito VPN browser or whatever you want, I have that feeling that they are already seeing me write on the KEYBOARD itself, and here there is not much to escape from, or is it Android (GOOGLE) or Samsung's or Microsoft's Swiftkey.
obviously they gather a lot of information out there.

One last comment on the subject of VPNs.
Most are more dangerous than walking without one. There is a documentary (by a Spaniard) that shows how most of the (paid) VPNs belong to the same person and they all have ties to the IDF in Israel.

[o_e_l_e_o]

With the issue of privacy today it is more complicated every day, for my part, as I am not a specialist in computer science or cybersecurity, I use very simple techniques, but they can be useful to many.

You've made a good start, but you can go further:

- Multiple email addresses, which do not coincide with different platforms. Example my personal Gmail account does not match my Gmail account on my cell phone. (I know that the same if they wanted to link me).

Multiple email addresses is a must, but avoiding Google is also a must. You should considering moving to a more privacy respecting provider. Even better, use different providers for the different addresses to prevent a single provider linking your accounts via IP addresses, browser fingerprinting, etc.

-Never use chrome (except when there is no other option left for some compatibility).

If you need to use a chromium based browser for compatibility issues, then the best one to use is Ungoogled Chromium.

Most are more dangerous than walking without one. There is a documentary (by a Spaniard) that shows how most of the (paid) VPNs belong to the same person and they all have ties to the IDF in Israel.

VPNs serve some specific purposes and uses, but anonymity is not one of them. Consider Tor instead.

[aysg76]

A very useful and must topic for not only beginners but also those who are into this market but ignore the security and privacy aspects which is essential because we are dealing with highly risky and online market where our one mistake could easily lead to loss of funds and private data leak on the dark web.So useful topic explaining ways to tackle it and be safe from it.

Read the privacy policy of the survey sites you are using, but almost certainly they are sharing your data with third parties. What would be the point of you doing the survey if they can't share the information they collect from you? And if you are getting a reward or incentive for doing the survey, then your data is definitely being shared with even more third parties. They have to generate that revenue from somewhere, and that is from sharing or selling or data.

For sure sometimes the online surveys you are taking are from the direct company or most of time they outsource this service so your data is bound to go over the net and how come your personal information is circulated to many different sources you come across? The answer is simple that you fill up those survey forms and they intend on collecting your personal information from it to use it for their own purpose.

The paid part is interesting one like you get nothing out of it most of the times opposite to what they have promised or in crypto market you will get some shit tokens listed on some fake exchange with fake volumes and you can't get any liquidity for them to sell so your profit motives out of them is shattered and your data is also prone to leak.

If there is no consequence to you using fake information, then there is no real reason not to do it. If you give a fake name to a centralized exchange, for example, then you will end up having your account frozen and your coins seized. But if you are signing up for an email account, a mailing list, some sort of crypto giveaway, then there is no reason not to use a fake name, email address, or other information.

On the Centralised exchange you have to go through KYC and other verification process so giving out fake names is not going to work at all and if found suspicious your account gets freezed and you lose all your funds at once as you have agreed to the terms also.On the counter part it's never advisable to keep the funds over CEX in the first phase which is always prone to hacks and account freezing.But yes for the other giveaways you can use fake name and for SMS services you can use the mailing service as you suggested.But your privacy is in your hands and taking steps is required so be safe from all these things.

[aylabadia05]

Things that not many people know about a privacy that is very important to maintain and most do not understand how to protect it. John Oliver conveys clearly in the video with a humorous method. I watched the video to the end and it was really scary. John Oliver also shows a comparison between 2013, May 26, 2016, 2019 and 2021.

Out of the 25 minutes of the video, one statement that will stick with me after watching it is "how do they collect personal information and then resell it or share it with other people". This is clearly a very wide and most frightening ecosystem. I can't imagine what if things that many people don't want happen to my privacy considering that almost every activity of our work today is related to the internet.

[Doan9269]

Does this also apply to online surveys? Cause I have always partook in many surveys and have provided many informations and data about my self and economic conditions alike.

Of course that's oart of all that is being said, you jave to caution yourself to the extent of how you reveal your private lives online, and to the matter of fact, going by surveys and other related things like that is just a waste of time and no reward attached than unrealistic promises, most are scam, they got your data, intrude into your privacy and spy on you.

Does this also apply to online surveys? Cause I have always partook in many surveys and have provided many informations and data
Secondly, does this article implies that I shouldn't always give the right informations about myself as this can affect my privacy in other areas of online businesses am involved in?

No, don't het it wrong, be diplomatic about yourself and any information about you, why must they require your data at first place, for what? Not every site, link and messages should be given first priority interest, instead put them detestable, i wish you never have an experience of scam or hack.

[DireWolfM14]

That is an incredibly cringy video, and not because it's John Oliver.  The most disturbing part is the apparent disregard by the so-called governing bodies.  The surveillance state is bad enough without corruption making harder to secure our privacy.  I can't help but think that the rich are going to keep getting rich by ensuring the powerful gain more power.  That's the tradeoff and we're the chattel.

[jerry0]

With the issue of privacy today it is more complicated every day, for my part, as I am not a specialist in computer science or cybersecurity, I use very simple techniques, but they can be useful to many.

You've made a good start, but you can go further:

- Multiple email addresses, which do not coincide with different platforms. Example my personal Gmail account does not match my Gmail account on my cell phone. (I know that the same if they wanted to link me).

Multiple email addresses is a must, but avoiding Google is also a must. You should considering moving to a more privacy respecting provider. Even better, use different providers for the different addresses to prevent a single provider linking your accounts via IP addresses, browser fingerprinting, etc.

-Never use chrome (except when there is no other option left for some compatibility).

If you need to use a chromium based browser for compatibility issues, then the best one to use is Ungoogled Chromium.

Most are more dangerous than walking without one. There is a documentary (by a Spaniard) that shows how most of the (paid) VPNs belong to the same person and they all have ties to the IDF in Israel.

VPNs serve some specific purposes and uses, but anonymity is not one of them. Consider Tor instead.

What email woul dyou recommend besides google?

[1miau]

Very important topic, it's quite concerning how personal data is harvested everywhere just to be sold later. Even sold to some shady scammers or criminals on the darknet. As long as it's profitable, this will be done and selling data will get more profitable in the future.

Still have doubts that it's not an issue when your data is leaked / sold to the darknet?
Ledger's hack of personal user data resulted in people getting threats to be robbed:

In a Reddit post, a user with the account name Crypthomie shared the email coming from the blackmailers. According to a “Darrin Burlew”, he knows that this user holds a lot of cryptos and will “share all his info with the local thieves” if his demands are not met.

The blackmailer even furthered his threat by saying, “If I happen to do this, are you able to imagine all the possible consequences that can occur to you and your loved ones?”

Crypthomie also mentioned that his dad’s name, address, and phone number were written on the email he received.

https://coinquora.com/ledger-users-face-extortion-and-threats/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/kx9sy0/my_dad_just_received_a_death_threat_on_his/

I really like Bitcoin's public, pseudonymous nature and the fact, that it's up to us to protect our privacy. But at the same time we should be aware that it's crucial to protect our privacy.
Like dangerous KYC. Once linking your coins to KYC data, these transactions are tied to your name. Even mixing them afterwards doesn't change that. All transactions are stored forever in the public blockchain.
Once a criminal knows about your (high) Bitcoin balance and your physical address, it can end very badly, when the data is sold to local criminals in your area.

[o_e_l_e_o]

The most disturbing part is the apparent disregard by the so-called governing bodies.

Not just disregard, but active encouragement. In the US at least, government agencies are not allowed to enter your premises and search your belongings or your devices without a warrant, but there are absolutely no laws preventing them from buying your data from data brokers, blockchain analysis companies, or other third parties.

What email woul dyou recommend besides google?

If you can, run your own email server. If you cant, use ProtonMail. Use PGP to encrypt everything.

Like dangerous KYC. Once linking your coins to KYC data, these transactions are tied to your name. Even mixing them afterwards doesn't change that. All transactions are stored forever in the public blockchain.

Exactly this. You can pass your coins through ChipMixer so no one knows where they end up, but if those coins were bought from a KYCed account then anyone with access to that data will still know you bought x amount of BTC, even if they don't know where it is now. The only safe KYC is no KYC at all.