Professional newbie

[5W-KILO]

Not all newbies are newbies on this forum, just because someone just created his or her account doesn't mean they have no knowledge about cryptocurrency at all, this shouldn't be an issue unless they break forum rules or try to scam people on here.

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[Blue King]

Those who come to the forum by acquiring knowledge in a natural way can go to a better position very soon. But it is not that those who do not come to the forum after acquiring knowledge beforehand will not be able to do anything in the forum.As far as I know most people have come to the forum and gained knowledge.The main thing is that those who come to the forum regularly and read the posts of seniors will be able to gain more knowledge.We see a lot of people coming to the forum for a while and doing something good.

[Pmalek]

I wish we had many more newbies who are just new and unfamiliar with Bitcointalk, but already know their way around Bitcoin. Unfortunately, that's not the case. The majority of them are brand-new to everything and they came here after being told they can make money. No problem with that if they are ready to read and learn. What I don't like to see is posts like I am new, how do I become rich here

We do get the occasional newbie who claims to be here for the first time, but then mentions some drama or even that happened a few years ago. A lurker? Possibly. it's more likely that they have been here before.   

[5W-KILO]

I wish we had many more newbies who are just new and unfamiliar with Bitcointalk, but already know their way around Bitcoin. Unfortunately, that's not the case. The majority of them are brand-new to everything and they came here after being told they can make money. No problem with that if they are ready to read and learn. What I don't like to see is posts like I am new, how do I become rich here

We do get the occasional newbie who claims to be here for the first time, but then mentions some drama or even that happened a few years ago. A lurker? Possibly. it's more likely that they have been here before.   

Exactly, it's why we keep seeing same old topics over and over again on this forum, but i'm curious about how they came to know about this forum when bitcointalk isn't putting up any banner online or ads, maybe google search?.

[tranthidung]

To be a pro on the forum, you must have to be professional in at least two things

• Technical knowledge on Bitcoin (most important because it's the Bitcointalk forum), altcoins (top ones, how to detect scam altcoins, rugpulls, etc.), security etc.
• Writing skills: it's important because if you have very bad, broken-English or bad writing skills, you will write too long posts or non-sense, hardly understandable ones. It causes failure to convey your idea to others

A pro newbie is possible technically with in-dept knowledge on Bitcoin and others but if you see a newbie who have too deep knowledge on the forum, it's not a newbie in my opinion.

[Daniel91]

There are also real crypto professionals, who already know a lot about crypto and come to this forum to promote their products and services.
Although the Croatian part of the forum is relatively small and there are not many active users, we already have 2 crypto companies that promote their crypto services in our country.
Of course technically anyone who registers on this forum for the first time is a newbie but it is only a formal category and these members have a lot more experience in the crypto than most of us on this forum.

[Eureka_07]

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Well I've seen quite newbie that are professional themselves on the track they are in. I've seen those newbies before that has lots of knowledge in mining, trading, chart reading, gambling, programming, technicalities, etc.
Most of them ranked up very quick since they are successful in doing business, sharing and interacting with other users here.

One great example is @n0nce which I've seen being a newbie, climbed up, and received huge respect from the whole forum.

[dlightag]

Professional newbie work with old member on the forum for guide line about the presentation of topic and also, knowing how to race topic.  and share idea, base on the information given gathering with a legit source.

[GeorgeJohn]

It's base on your perception or ideology you have seen it that way, because a newbie who gather knowledge of cryptocurrency supposed to utilize the knowledge via making educational post that will motivate or trigger another user to do so. In ly agenda not like professional newbies, from my perspective i seen that tagged name as discouragement name that will make newbies to backslide..if i may ask, what's the criteria to rank up? So it's very obvious and plain that the only measure someone can rank up is through quality posting, and what is quality post..a quality post is a post that carries answer or solution to question of a Post.

[Masplanc]

Those who are professional newbies some have them might have been in a different forum that is why they have the knowledge how to contribute in a forum, some may be natural intelligent even if it is the first time for them to join a forum, they can use like some days to get all what they want concerning the forum .

[Mpamaegbu]

I prefer professional newbies to ignorant veterans, honestly. The first set enlightens and are relatable while the latter sits pompously on their ignorance in claims of what they know not. In 2017 when I joined this forum I was virtually a stark illiterate on crypto matters and was constantly getting lost in discourse. Whenever I see genuine newbies this day on the forum who are highly knowledgeable, I admire them. We all can't be deficit in the same thing.

You did not include one category of newbie, the Lurkers.

There are also veteran lurkers too.

[Kasabus]

Why would it matter? As long as they aren't being annoying, dodgy or breaking forum guidelines, I couldn't care less on the identity someone posts under. Don't forget that higher ranked users might be worried about looking bad if they ask a basic question, that's just the reality. While, everyone has basic questions at times, but just some people like to appear more knowledgable than they might be, which isn't a massive problem if it isn't used maliciously.

If you're knowledgable before joining the forum, great. If you're using multiple alt accounts for different opinions that you don't want to associate with all your identities, great. You're free to do either.

Regardless of whatever position you are currently in, i don't think it will matter the most because as far as i'm concern, as long as you are on the right track and is always been very helpful to contribute in a good flow of discussion, i guess that will matter the most. Be it professional newbie or not, that is not really a big deal as long as you are eager to learn to stay knowledgeable and become a quality poster, because what we need here are those who can contribute quality posts to make the forum more informative.

[_BlackStar]

I'm not too sure about what it means to be a professional newbie, but maybe it's a phrase for those who really master bitcoin and its ins and outs well even if the account is a newbie.

The reality is that anyone who understands bitcoin today is a person who never really understood it before they studied it. His interest and desire to get to know bitcoin in more detail helped by his basic knowledge has made them understand this cryptocurrency faster than others. If this is the case, why can't we do it? And yes we just need to invest time to learn from time to time and we will get the benefits. The main advantage is knowing about bitcoin and many other things about it because not all gains are monetary.

[Munir575]

Who is a Professional Newbie?
A newbie who seems to possess much knowledge already regardless of their low ranks.

Common Attributes
(1) Professional writing style.
(2) Offering unsolicited sort of professional advice and help to others on the forum about forum activities instead of being a newbie who is supposed to learn to walk before running.

How did they come to be;
Three logical origins I can think of
(1) May already be very knowledgeable before joining forum.

(2) Probability of it being an account owned by a user who already is a forum member.

(3) Just an "I too know" habit they may have before joining forum.

What is the likely origin of professional newbies here in forum;
Is it Origin 1? (May already be knowledgeable prior to joining forum)

Is it Origin 2? (Probability of being an account owned by a user who is already a member here)

Is it Origin 3? ( The- I too know habit)

Some people actually have bitcoin knowledge before joining the forum, not all newbies accounts that can post and engage in discussions are alt accounts owned by a member of the forum. He may have learned to walk before joining so thats its easy for them to run.

[Vaculin]

Usually people who join a forum dedicated to discuss a certain subject, are either knowledgeable about that sibject or at least interested in it. Bitcointalk is an exception because most new accounts (newbies) are either part of a big farm or created solely for the purpose of joining bounty campaigns. They don't care about learning or sharing their knowledge with others (if they have any).
What's certain is that the account rank doesn't always reflect the real level of knowledge of the account's owner.

True. You cannot justify that all newbie positions have lower level of knowledge. Their rank may be low but knowing that they have started to discuss the topic, or have joined in the discussion, proves already that they have been into researching or have prior knowledge about that. Same with the higher position in the forum. There are still sr. member or hero position that create low quality posts, that sometimes even newbies create quality post than them.

[suzanne5223]

Usually people who join a forum dedicated to discuss a certain subject, are either knowledgeable about that sibject or at least interested in it. Bitcointalk is an exception because most new accounts (newbies) are either part of a big farm or created solely for the purpose of joining bounty campaigns. They don't care about learning or sharing their knowledge with others (if they have any).
What's certain is that the account rank doesn't always reflect the real level of knowledge of the account's owner.

True. You cannot justify that all newbie positions have lower level of knowledge. Their rank may be low but knowing that they have started to discuss the topic, or have joined in the discussion, proves already that they have been into researching or have prior knowledge about that. Same with the higher position in the forum. There are still sr. member or hero position that create low quality posts, that sometimes even newbies create quality post than them.

Yes, rank cant be used to justify the knowledge of a newbie but 98% of all professional newbies are alt of a member that understands the community system and i cant assure you that no matter knowledgeable a newbie was in the cryptocurrency aspect, it will still take the person something to understand most rules and regulation of the forum.
Therefore, a newbie that has concrete crypto knowledge and understands 95% of the forum rules is definitely an alt of an established member of the forum

[isaac_clarke22]

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This.
I even recall Donators in this forum, which surely they are the ones that have been in here for so long, selling an account which is highly discouraged in here. I was surprised that some do those kind of stuffs still.
Good thing merit system was implemented as well though. It helps those "newbie" in rank show what rank they do indeed deserve.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I honestly do not think there's anything as a professional newbie, this is generally speaking now, bitcoin and cryptocurrency wise, a professional is a professional and a newbie is a newbie, there is no such thing as a professional newbie.

That someone just joined the forum does not necessarily mean they are just joining crypto, they might have been into crypto for a long time before coming across this forum, and even though they are give the newbie rank when they join here, it is a matter of short time before their forum rank will catch up with their level of knowledge in crypto (depending on their posting habit though.)

We all are here to discuss crypto, and a crypto newbie is a crypto newbie while a crypto professional is a crypto professional, for me personally, there is no such thing as professional newbie.

[Finestream]

What the heck is "I too know" habit ? 

And your case 2 is just a subcase of case 1 - if a person has another forum account and they have spent a lot of time on the forum, then obviously they got a lot of knowledge prior to starting their second account.

So, yeah, there's only one reason why someone is a "professional newbie" - they already have a knowledge about Bitcoin before creating that account.

I even see it as an advantage from others who are real newbies that don't have the prior knowledge and skills. That way, they lessen the risk in losing since they are aware already that creating dump decisions will only reflect on the loss of your investment. And it does not make a big deal with having low rank like newbie position but are more capable than those who in high ranks. This just means that there is no competition here, but its always an edge if you know everything in this market.

[Bamjos]

It might be any of the three options but I personally feel it's mostly the first. There are some people who know about cryptocurrency, who are even making a lot of money in it and are basically living on cryptocurrency (that's what they do for a living), but they might not don't know about bitcointalk yet, some haven't even heard of it before. Whenever people like this find themselves on this forum, it will surely be evident that they were professional before they joined the forum and I believe we have people like that in the forum as well.

People in this category were those who quickly became successful in the forum because of their previous knowledge of cryptocurrency; they spent few months in the forum and they were already scaling up the ranking ladder quickly because they had something to offer, they made quality contribution to the forum and it all paid off for them.