Professional newbie

[Bitcoinbride]

Who is a Professional Newbie?
A newbie who seems to possess much knowledge already regardless of their low ranks.

Common Attributes
(1) Professional writing style.
(2) Offering unsolicited sort of professional advice and help to others on the forum about forum activities instead of being a newbie who is supposed to learn to walk before running.

How did they come to be;
Three logical origins I can think of
(1) May already be very knowledgeable before joining forum.

(2) Probability of it being an account owned by a user who already is a forum member.

(3) Just an "I too know" habit they may have before joining forum.

What is the likely origin of professional newbies here in forum;
Is it Origin 1? (May already be knowledgeable prior to joining forum)

Is it Origin 2? (Probability of being an account owned by a user who is already a member here)

Is it Origin 3? ( The- I too know habit)

[coupable]

Is it Origin 1? (May already be knowledgeable prior to joining forum)

There is an uncountable number of people who have great knowledge about bitcoin and blockchain in general. Once they join bitcointalk forum, most of us will be impressed by the knowledge shown by a newbie. However, he won't be able to write well designed posts if not being a forum user before especially that bitcointalk requires the minimum knowledge about BBcode styles/codes to develop nice posts.

Is it Origin 2? (Probability of being an account owned by a user who is already a member here)

In most of cases, this is the truth. As said above ; a good poster has to know what to write and how to write it. About how to write it, users should have previous experiences with posting using BBcode and sharing idea within forums and different communities.

Is it Origin 3? ( The- I too know habit)

So far to be true.

[UKprod]

What is the likely origin of professional newbies here in forum;
Is it Origin 1? (May already be knowledgeable prior to joining forum)

Is it Origin 2? (Probability of being an account owned by a user who is already a member here)

I believe that most "professional newbies" here are either knowledgeable in one or other fields wherein they are able to contribute. In few cases they might be an alt account of existing members. For example, in my own case, when I joined this forum, I had very little knowledge about technical aspects of Bitcoin. But I was well versed with taxation laws and civil laws which prompted me to write on the legal aspects of Bitcoin/Altcoins in a professional and critical way.

In case of Origin 2 where there are alt accounts, these accounts will try only to rank up first. However, once they reach a certain rank, I believe they would stop writing good articles. I'm assuming this considering that the only incentive to create an alt account is to participate in signature campaigns.

[jackg]

I joined here after being into bitcoin for a few months and seeing it on search engines quite a lot - I wasn't great at posting to start with but I knew quite a bit about the forum and bitcoin from threads I read and discussions that went on so I think that might be another distinction between how well people seem at writing on the forum.

2 alt users are quite probable as well as alts of members on other forums (ie someone posts a lot on bitcoin stackexchange/reddit and moves across - if those are still active).

[Wincob]

Many people knew about bitcoin first before knowing this forum, this is normal, I knew about BTC and ETH in 2016 and I never heard about the Bitcointalk forum until the bear market of 2018, so I do have one or two knowledge about crypto before coming on here.

[Welsh]

Why would it matter? As long as they aren't being annoying, dodgy or breaking forum guidelines, I couldn't care less on the identity someone posts under. Don't forget that higher ranked users might be worried about looking bad if they ask a basic question, that's just the reality. While, everyone has basic questions at times, but just some people like to appear more knowledgable than they might be, which isn't a massive problem if it isn't used maliciously.

If you're knowledgable before joining the forum, great. If you're using multiple alt accounts for different opinions that you don't want to associate with all your identities, great. You're free to do either.

[Rikafip]

(1) Professional writing style.

Just because someone knows how to write and has a knowledge of forum posting etiquette doesn't necessarily mean that is an alt account. Forums have been around for many years before bitcointalk so for some this is not the first forum.

(2) Offering unsolicited sort of professional advice and help to others on the forum about forum activities instead of being a newbie who is supposed to learn to walk before running.

That is a classic sign that it may be the case of alt account, newbie that immediately starts creating topics telling others what they should do on forum hoping that they will scoop some easy merit. Luckily, other members became quite good at seeing through those attempts.

What is the likely origin of professional newbies here in forum;
Is it Origin 2? (Probability of being an account owned by a user who is already a member here)

Probably this. Every once in a while a legit newbie shows up but more often than not its the alt account.

[FatFork]

What is the likely origin of professional newbies here in forum;
Is it Origin 1? (May already be knowledgeable prior to joining forum)

Is it Origin 2? (Probability of being an account owned by a user who is already a member here)

Is it Origin 3? ( The- I too know habit)

It is quite possible that someone has been around long enough to change accounts if they wanted to. But, why would it matter? They are not breaking any forum rules.
Nevertheless, as some have already stated, I also believe that most "professional newbies" have some prior experience and basic etiquette of communicating online. There are people who literally know nothing about cryptocurrency and yet post quality content on bitcointalk. For example, some members may be experts in some other fields, not necessarily closely related to crypto and blockchain. So I don't believe they are all alt accounts.

[KingsDen]

You did not include one category of newbie, the Lurkers.

Some Newbies stay in the background for a long time, reading and observing what's happening in the forum and whenever they manifest, they do so with a lot of knowledge about the forum.

Any forum I join, I like being mute for so long, in order to know;
The purpose of the forum;
The personalities in the forum
The do's and don't
Then, whenever I decide to show up, I make positive impact.
That is the case of some Newbies, however it is rare these days.

[Shamm]

Why would it matter? As long as they aren't being annoying, dodgy or breaking forum guidelines, I couldn't care less on the identity someone posts under. Don't forget that higher ranked users might be worried about looking bad if they ask a basic question, that's just the reality. While, everyone has basic questions at times, but just some people like to appear more knowledgable than they might be, which isn't a massive problem if it isn't used maliciously.

If you're knowledgable before joining the forum, great. If you're using multiple alt accounts for different opinions that you don't want to associate with all your identities, great. You're free to do either.

Yes I will agree with you mate that we can do what we want to do here in the forum as long as we won't break the rules and regulations here in our community. Cause if we break the rules for sure high ranks will not good to us they will say bad at you so we need to be careful. If newbies are more knowledgeable than other member here all I can say is that's good that there's another knowledgeable user who joined here.

[khaled0111]

Usually people who join a forum dedicated to discuss a certain subject, are either knowledgeable about that sibject or at least interested in it. Bitcointalk is an exception because most new accounts (newbies) are either part of a big farm or created solely for the purpose of joining bounty campaigns. They don't care about learning or sharing their knowledge with others (if they have any).
What's certain is that the account rank doesn't always reflect the real level of knowledge of the account's owner.

[uchegod-21]

If you're knowledgable before joining the forum, great. If you're using multiple alt accounts for different opinions that you don't want to associate with all your identities, great. You're free to do either.

This is an eye opener. I have seen myself in this condition for so many times. I will really want to say something but I will fear(repect) the person and will not say it so that I will not become a bad person to some people. I wish I can just hide under another person identity and speak my mind some times.

I can really see that there are alot of freedom in this forum. If one do not cheat and do not plagiarise, you can last very long in this forum.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Don't forget that higher ranked users might be worried about looking bad if they ask a basic question, that's just the reality. While, everyone has basic questions at times, but just some people like to appear more knowledgable than they might be, which isn't a massive problem if it isn't used maliciously.

So creating accounts just to please their thirst for knowledge and a shame to use their main account to ask some things they dont know here? Its actually fine as long as they do it purely for that and not for signature farms. With this response of yours, it seem you recognize few who do that isnt it?

If you're knowledgable before joining the forum, great. If you're using multiple alt accounts for different opinions that you don't want to associate with all your identities, great. You're free to do either.

Are there people like this here? Doing some multi account with such different opinions or somehow behaviour?

[Rikafip]

Are there people like this here? Doing some multi account with such different opinions or somehow behaviour?

Yes of course. We've seen many times brand new accounts creating topics in meta/reputation and accusing reputable members for all sort of stuff. Those are of course alts of already existing members that are afraid they will get tagged by DT members. Even theymos doesn't have anything against creating an alt for sharing unpopular opinion.

I don't have a problem with alt accounts as long as they're not used for evading bans. If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Yes of course. We've seen many times brand new accounts creating topics in meta/reputation and accusing reputable members for all sort of stuff. Those are of course alts of already existing members that are afraid they will get tagged by DT members. Even theymos doesn't have anything against creating an alt for sharing unpopular opinion.

Oh yeah I forgot. The drama history on reputation. But what Ive dont like there is the fact that if they have voicing out with a new account, it just show how they take it as preciously their main account not to argue with other high ranks using their own. Thats how valuable an account for not having a negative trust, and protecting their profile and continue the incentivize posting through signature.

[nakamura12]

If a newbie is already knowledgeable then that's good since that newbie can help fellow newbies in this forum except those alt account who are hiding behind a newbie account to ask questions for some reason like afraid to ask basic question even if they have higher rank. That would make them put to shame where such higher rank just asking newbie or basic question. As on how I see about other people who doesn't have high rank see a forum user which is above his/her rank see that person as knowledgeable than he/she is.

[Smartvirus]

Origin 1 and 2 accounts more for your so called professional newbies on the forum. Origin 3 is one of the reasons why most of the supposedly professional newbies gets banned. Haven't found out that, the forum is one that is distinguishes for your intellect and how much you could contribute to the bulk of knowledge on the forum, the user feels pressured to produce better and better contents that eventually gets them banned. Trying to impress is always not the best of strategies to walk up the ladder.

There are other forums out there for sure but on my part, most of the things I've learned or came to know was on this forum. I wasn't entirely blank when I arrived here but surely improved on what I knew or thought I knew then.
If I can entertain a little curiosity that just might have risen out of your choice of username,

Which are you in your categorisation @OP?

[Alisha-k]

It's  a typical reflection  of what information  people are open to and how early the embraced bitcoin  and crypto currency even before joining  the forum.  Bitcointalk is not the only avenue to get knowledgeable about bitcoin  although  it can be said to be the largest. But most times  this so called professional  newbies tries to abuse the whole system  by plagiarism just to please the forum users

[hatshepsut93]

What the heck is "I too know" habit ? 

And your case 2 is just a subcase of case 1 - if a person has another forum account and they have spent a lot of time on the forum, then obviously they got a lot of knowledge prior to starting their second account.

So, yeah, there's only one reason why someone is a "professional newbie" - they already have a knowledge about Bitcoin before creating that account.

[jrrsparkles]

There are some genuine members who acquired lot of knowledge about Bitcoin and its technical aspects then land here which makes them to be professional newbie but good thing is good thing no matter from where it comes, its not really necessary to pay attention to the rank os users and if its comes from an actual newbie then its really good to see their interest towards acquiring knowledge about cryptocurrencies.