Big Project, looking for an investor

[dothebeats]

Try getting a loan from the bank. From there you will have better chances rather than asking random people to trust you on something that you only figured out on paper. If you can prove to people here that your business plan is feasible, you will still have to provide some other proofs that this is not a scam at all.

I know banks aren't really the friendliest entities around but I am sure they will be more than happy to provide you a loan; if you can prove to them that you have the means of paying back. If you're sure this is going to work, take all the risks and rake all the profits AND THEN pitch it here.

[PX-Z]

You see, you get replies from different perspectives, laughing, assuming even accused
 you. Coz finding investors to invest a non-established business, can't say if it's a business already since you don't have a licensed yet is too risky from investors point of view. What's the assurance for them that you will not run the funds? Is there any work of a middle man? Although it can be communicate through pm but mentioning it here will let everybody knows everything about the project, you and to your future investors.

[panjul07]

Try getting a loan from the bank. From there you will have better chances rather than asking random people to trust you on something that you only figured out on paper. If you can prove to people here that your business plan is feasible, you will still have to provide some other proofs that this is not a scam at all.

I know banks aren't really the friendliest entities around but I am sure they will be more than happy to provide you a loan; if you can prove to them that you have the means of paying back. If you're sure this is going to work, take all the risks and rake all the profits AND THEN pitch it here.

Other alternative can be by asking people around him to be investor.
He must have some family members, neighbors, friends, etc who can trust him better than looking for investor in online world.
If I have a big project and I believe the project has a big potential to make good profit, I'll do what I suggested first.
By the way, how he presents his project does not look professional so I believe no one will be willing to invest even a hundred buck.

[Webetcoins]

Don't expect people to believe you easily because by the help of this forum many people now are been educated about those possible scam attempt. So I guess you need to research first about what you offering here since most of scammers who use this word big project without providing any proof of legitimacy or any roadmap didn't succeed on their plans.

And the sad part is that even if the project proposes with a roadmap, there is still a chance that it can be a scam. New crypto projects for example, almost all of them are just scams. The investors are the ones that we must taught of doing a research not the op because he is likely a scammer and your only giving him an idea if what to avoid next time, this can make him become more successful on scamming people.

There are a few users already that expose the true identity of the op so be careful dealing with this guy. Let us not get tempted of that word "big project" because later on, that could turn into a "big scam". You've been warned.

[bitbollo]

OP you have to provide a whole range of information to obtain financing from strangers on internet.
you have to clarify all legal aspects. and you must provide details on this agreement.
what guarantee or collateral do you provide?
have you done any feasibility studies to estimate the value of your site? It sound a Little bit silly male a comparision with a site already running with a monopoly position...

[DoublerHunter]

You see, you get replies from different perspectives, laughing, assuming even accused
 you. Coz finding investors to invest a non-established business, can't say if it's a business already since you don't have a licensed yet is too risky from investors point of view. What's the assurance for them that you will not run the funds? Is there any work of a middle man? Although it can be communicate through pm but mentioning it here will let everybody knows everything about the project, you and to your future investors.

^ This is the problem for those who wanted to have investors but as a new project, no one will trust you in this matter.
Gaining trust is not just easy so that is impossible that you will have partner investors here, probably just find outside that a person already knows you personally. Because if you are online, it seems they will not believe you and even one of them can accuse your offer as a scammer's work and that matter you cannot blame people since there are a lot of victims here that kind of offer.

[goldkingcoiner]

Greetings Everyone,

My name is Mitch, and I would love to propose an investment opportunity. For the past few months, I’ve been working on a website - 961bet.net. Which is a new match betting website targeting Lebanese people and world wide. The site has been up for a few weeks and has gotten a lot of support from different users, however we are now in a bad financial situation and I’m here to look if anyone would like to invest into my project, to further increase the development of the website.


About The Website:
The site is a crypto casino. We currently support two different cryptocurrencies for both Deposits and Withdrawals (BTC, ETH,) and P2P (will be explained down below). . Additional funding to the website will allow us to add more games and fix the overall design of the website, making it more user friendly.


How P2P works?
I'm looking to target lebanese people since I'm lebanese too, there is only 1 site here that operate here and their making millions per day, my website is only match betting for now, might add live slots later on depends on the request, Now I'm gonna explain few things, lebanese people have been struggling to use their money online due to the economic crisis here, so what's the plan is the deposit method will be face 2 face, I have agents that can take care of it, for example I gave the agent X, 40 million LBP, his job is to sell those 40 million LBP on site to people for real cash, after that I collect the money from the agents and turn them into USDT, I could explain more and more how things work but trust me there is ALOT of money to be made and I need a little push

I could share the business plan in dms

Investment:
We are looking for somebody who can invest anything between $1000 and higher. Investors will receive a portion/percentage of the project, which includes full access to our admin panel. This percentage or portion can be discussed and negotiated over in my inbox (linked below). You will also be able to develop the website and supply us with more ideas for updates and futuristic plans.

Discord: Mitch#0299

Telegram:@Mitch1900

Hi Mitch.

Please understand that as you have a status of "newbie" on this forum, almost everyone is not going to trust you. Especially not with their money. Furthermore, if you want to build trust, we will need more than a short wall of text.

Who are you working with? Can you prove how much work you put into the project already? Do you have a developed business plan that you can show your potential investors?

Until we see proof of your projects legitimacy and when you vouch with your real identity then we can talk about trust. Until then, I doubt anyone here will invest even a single Satoshi.

[stomachgrowls]

You see, you get replies from different perspectives, laughing, assuming even accused
 you. Coz finding investors to invest a non-established business, can't say if it's a business already since you don't have a licensed yet is too risky from investors point of view. What's the assurance for them that you will not run the funds? Is there any work of a middle man? Although it can be communicate through pm but mentioning it here will let everybody knows everything about the project, you and to your future investors.

^ This is the problem for those who wanted to have investors but as a new project, no one will trust you in this matter.
Gaining trust is not just easy so that is impossible that you will have partner investors here, probably just find outside that a person already knows you personally. Because if you are online, it seems they will not believe you and even one of them can accuse your offer as a scammer's work and that matter you cannot blame people since there are a lot of victims here that kind of offer.

Trust would really be the main issue on here which is really a very common reaction or view of people and as said there are lots who had been victimized with this kind of set-up even though not all since

there are legit ones who do really look or seek for investors but on 0% chance they wont succeed out because people would be always skeptical or having those doubts when it comes to investment matter

where people cant just throw out their money randomly just because there are someone who had been asking for some partnership or investment dealing on a particular business.
No one could get out some solid assurances with those money that invested so dont expect nor anticipate for such support.

[AmoreJaz]

You see, you get replies from different perspectives, laughing, assuming even accused
 you. Coz finding investors to invest a non-established business, can't say if it's a business already since you don't have a licensed yet is too risky from investors point of view. What's the assurance for them that you will not run the funds? Is there any work of a middle man? Although it can be communicate through pm but mentioning it here will let everybody knows everything about the project, you and to your future investors.

^ This is the problem for those who wanted to have investors but as a new project, no one will trust you in this matter.
Gaining trust is not just easy so that is impossible that you will have partner investors here, probably just find outside that a person already knows you personally. Because if you are online, it seems they will not believe you and even one of them can accuse your offer as a scammer's work and that matter you cannot blame people since there are a lot of victims here that kind of offer.

Trust would really be the main issue on here which is really a very common reaction or view of people and as said there are lots who had been victimized with this kind of set-up even though not all since

there are legit ones who do really look or seek for investors but on 0% chance they wont succeed out because people would be always skeptical or having those doubts when it comes to investment matter

where people cant just throw out their money randomly just because there are someone who had been asking for some partnership or investment dealing on a particular business.
No one could get out some solid assurances with those money that invested so dont expect nor anticipate for such support.

you can't blame people for having negative approach on this. many had been screwed over and over by scammers. if the OP badly wants to push thru this project. they need to tap close colleagues or private investors that they can pitch their project. if they believe that this platform will be successful, it won't be hard convincing these people to invest on them. but here, asking from strangers to invest on their business, i don't think they can get people on board.

[crzy]

I have seen your old post history, you tried to get a loan from 2020 but you didn’t get. I don’t think you will get loan instead of your collateral is domain and namecheap account. Also you will never get an investors as like 1000$ such a new gambling platform without legitimacy. Don’t implement it only for a specific country. 

This is actually a suspicious move and since creating a gambling site requires a lot of money, I’m pretty sure OP didn’t know about this one and $1000 investment is not enough at all. Well, most of the gambling site today didn’t come here to ask for any investors, they came here already established and came here with a huge funds already. I doubt that someone will invest on this kind of project, OP should do better from this.

[Odusko]

What made this look fishy too. It is the fact that the admin is seeking a minimum of $1000 investment and we all know that running and operating a casino requires large capital for to source that kind of capital online will be impossible so I will say ops should approach a bank with the right collateral for a loan.

[Distinctin]

What made this look fishy too. It is the fact that the admin is seeking a minimum of $1000 investment and we all know that running and operating a casino requires large capital for to source that kind of capital online will be impossible so I will say ops should approach a bank with the right collateral for a loan.

Yeah, that probably is, why would ask for a $1000 minimum if looking for an investor?

The more investors he could get the better as it's hard to find people who would risk $1000 for a business that isn't running yet if I'm not mistaken. If OP's intention is clean, I think crowdfunding with a very reasonable requirement is viable or why not just borrow money from the bank with the acceptable collateral.

[qwertyup23]

Investment:
We are looking for somebody who can invest anything between $1000 and higher. Investors will receive a portion/percentage of the project, which includes full access to our admin panel. This percentage or portion can be discussed and negotiated over in my inbox (linked below). You will also be able to develop the website and supply us with more ideas for updates and futuristic plans.

Asking for an investment worth $1,000 or more without providing any glimpse or concrete details about the said project can easily backfire. I heavily recommend that you provide more details in the post, instead of saying that the other details would be available in DMs. Anything that asks for a minimum investment in return for nothing (basically a non-collateral loan) can be dangerous to the investor's side, given that nothing is promised in return except for such hope and optimism.

Again, I heavily recommend that you provide at least some collateral to the minimum investment required to at least compensate the users from your request. Given that you also have a history of asking such, bring some security for these investors.

[xSkylarx]

This kind of website needs a large amount of money, which is why you are looking for an investor, but first without any roadmap plans and other things that you want to implement and any presentation that could attract an investor, you ca really persuade one. If this is legit and you are too legit, without any infographic or detailed information, no one will invest in you because it looks like a scam. Now my perception is that, because all of what I have stated above can't be seen, this is definitely a 100% scam.

[goaldigger]

What made this look fishy too. It is the fact that the admin is seeking a minimum of $1000 investment and we all know that running and operating a casino requires large capital for to source that kind of capital online will be impossible so I will say ops should approach a bank with the right collateral for a loan.

Such a fishy one, usually good gambling site wont ask for any investors here because they already have one in person and they are into contracts which can give an assurance for every investors. This project will fail, no gambling site will succeed if they have no funds in the first place, OP should not ask for any investors here. We’ve seen a lot of thread like this before, and they are nowhere to be found, this one will end up the same.

[perla]

My suggestion to OP is try to give a detailed plan what could be the benefits of the investors and include statistics why would you say that you could earn a lot of money by operating this gambling site, promises are just words and without proof no investors would invest to something that they are not sure if they are going to earn.

[Reatim]

This is my old account, I used ArabianFella till I recovered this account <...>

Recovered from what? The account ArabianFella you used was registered on April 23, 2021, and was active until February 14, 2022.

The following is your last post from the thread where you asked for a $500 loan:

You're right I didn't think of it, its my 1st time doing it ill be more aware next time, im gonna close my thread as for the other guy calling me scammer, as I said im new here i dont have much merit/trust but that doesnt make me a scammer Im a well known guy on other forums so ill be closing the thread

Look at the bolded parts. Obviously you're a liar, which makes you probably a scammer too.

You're assuming I'm a scammer without a proof, it's my 1st time requesting a loan, 2nd look at the date of Mitch212 account created and The ArabianFella one why do you think I don't use it anymore? I didn't have access to this one so I made a new one till I get my old account back

you cannot take it from people here mate because first you are now using a New account when you are trying to Lure investors , while the other account you used are asking LOAN in which we are trying to ask why you need open a thread like this when you can actually use your Old one?

I'm afraid that you can at least take a single investor here , because you are now exposed and being questioned .

[rodskee]

This looks so funny too. As your service looks mixed up and how do you expect people from a cryptocurrency community to invest in a project that has to do with the third party agent to exchange your ticket. Whichever ways you may have to put in some level of work to see the project develop to some certain level before seeking investors involvement at list get the site to 90% operational level and after that you may have a bankroll investment feature that way you may attract investors that will be willing to invest the money on the bankroll in other to share revenues from the site activities.

I'm still working on the site, you'd see progress soon still implementing new features to the website I'd love to get back here when everything goes smooth

Maybe better to  lock the thread while you are dealing with the progress mate , because seems like you will be getting a break ? and at least bring us smooth result in the future and also address some of those issues above for your project betterment.

My suggestion to OP is try to give a detailed plan what could be the benefits of the investors and include statistics why would you say that you could earn a lot of money by operating this gambling site, promises are just words and without proof no investors would invest to something that they are not sure if they are going to earn.

The post I quoted seems to be the answer , and OP will get back soon.

[ethereumhunter]

My suggestion to OP is try to give a detailed plan what could be the benefits of the investors and include statistics why would you say that you could earn a lot of money by operating this gambling site, promises are just words and without proof no investors would invest to something that they are not sure if they are going to earn.

Even if @OP gives us a detailed plan, what investors can get, it still can't convince us because @OP needs $1,000 which if to be used to run a website, it's very less and we know that a casino could need more from $10,000. Investors need details about the project, especially how much they estimate they can get BEP or ROI and if it is calculated, it certainly will not be easy because the number of visitors or players in a casino can not be a measure.

[Kakmakr]

You are acting like a scammer .... dumping old accounts ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380738.0 ) and making new accounts. People look at your post history to see what your track record is and they also look at your "trust" rating. When you jump between accounts, it is indicative of someone trying to hide their past. 

In any way, you will have a lot more success if people could "invest"  smaller amounts and then once you prove that they will be getting a return on their investment..... they might invest more. (Also called the long Con)    (This way... people can flag you, if you are a scammer)