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April 25, 2022, 09:14:29 PM
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The bill should be applied to all countries and will have a deterrent effect on all drivers so that all drivers do not drive their cars when drunk, as it is dangerous for the driver and others.
There is no excuse for a rich or poor driver if he makes a mistake while drunk, he should be punished and responsible for raising his child until he grows up because he made his son lose his father who should be his responsibility.
In the country where I live, a lot of accidents happen because of drunk driving and it's just a criminal law which I don't think is a severe punishment without thinking about the victim's family.
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April 25, 2022, 09:35:10 PM
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Today, there are more such crimes. It would be very good if the criminal could pay money to the victim in a traffic accident. But if the driver was a person without money, this does not work. I think that in this case the state should pay money to children. It is very sad. Money can't replace parents, but children have to live and no one can take care of them. This law is suitable if the offender has money.

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April 25, 2022, 10:47:16 PM
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The bill should be applied to all countries and will have a deterrent effect on all drivers so that all drivers do not drive their cars when drunk, as it is dangerous for the driver and others.
There is no excuse for a rich or poor driver if he makes a mistake while drunk, he should be punished and responsible for raising his child until he grows up because he made his son lose his father who should be his responsibility.
In the country where I live, a lot of accidents happen because of drunk driving and it's just a criminal law which I don't think is a severe punishment without thinking about the victim's family.

Yeah that's best if all country apply this law since it will give security to the victims children if something bad happen to their provider due to this unfortunate incident made by drunkards. But a law on certain country may not apply on other since some politician have different outlook unto this situation and might we see them denied since maybe they will get affected to the law since their part of family do this.

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April 25, 2022, 10:54:35 PM
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Today, there are more such crimes. It would be very good if the criminal could pay money to the victim in a traffic accident. But if the driver was a person without money, this does not work. I think that in this case the state should pay money to children. It is very sad. Money can't replace parents, but children have to live and no one can take care of them. This law is suitable if the offender has money.

It is already happening that in most cases, the driver usually pays the victim. But this bill as posted by the OP is very nice. We will see if these drunken drivers will lessen in numbers. And this is just fair to the kids that will be left behind by untimely accident owed to irresponsible drivers. I hope this kind of bill can be seen in other countries as well.
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April 25, 2022, 11:21:56 PM
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Today, there are more such crimes. It would be very good if the criminal could pay money to the victim in a traffic accident. But if the driver was a person without money, this does not work. I think that in this case the state should pay money to children. It is very sad. Money can't replace parents, but children have to live and no one can take care of them. This law is suitable if the offender has money.

It is already happening that in most cases, the driver usually pays the victim. But this bill as posted by the OP is very nice. We will see if these drunken drivers will lessen in numbers. And this is just fair to the kids that will be left behind by untimely accident owed to irresponsible drivers. I hope this kind of bill can be seen in other countries as well.
It would be good if we do see for this bill to be applied on more countries which it isnt right that the driver would be responsible on supporting into those people who had been depending on the parents

or people whom they have killed due on being drunk or being irresponsible and with this then we might be seeing much less drunk drivers in the future since they've been thinking
on the possible responsibility that they would be burden after.

We know that this is hard thats why its right that they should really be careful and be responsible most of the time.

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April 26, 2022, 04:26:56 AM
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My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income.
Oh, you'd be surprised if you think that.  There are plenty of older alcoholics, problem drinkers, and just plain old social drinkers who get behind the wheel after too many drinks who are well past their student loan days.  And aside from that, the law doesn't (and shouldn't IMO) take into account whether a defendant is going to be able to afford to pay a fine when that law is written.  There's a $219 fine for littering in some New England states, and well...see?

I guess they would end up in an orphanage?
That's one possibility, but I think most orphaned kids wind up in the custody of a family member--though I don't know what the statistics are as far as that's concerned.  I'm also not sure how many orphanages there are anymore.

We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers.
Tell me about it.  Especially when a crime is committed against people in power, like cops.  If it had been a black or Hispanic mother on welfare (or even not on welfare) who was killed, what do you think the chances are that this bill would have even been considered?  The people who've got power over the law tend to protect their own kind first and foremost.  

Also, there are so many laws on the books already, and it's not as if drunk driving isn't a punishable offense.  And why not extend the punishment in question here to any situation of accidental killing?  What if the offender isn't able to pay?  What happens to the kids?  This is indeed reactionary in nature. 

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April 26, 2022, 12:30:04 PM
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This is an interesting and sensible bill because nowadays, cases on reckless driving resulting to homicide is increasing due to drivers that lacks discipline and moderation in drinking. If this bill will become a law, it could impact a lot of lives most especially the lives of the young people who lost their parents in an accident. Justice will be served fairly.

Those children who lost their parents at a young age suffer trauma and are required to grow up and matured fast due to the situation that there's none to make a living for them. Instead of having to do the things they love, they will be forced to enter adulthood and work their ass off just to survive and get by on a daily basis, most especially if they have no relatives to lean on. With this bill, the justice will not just end on suspects being put into jail, but to also provide for the bereaved children for their future.

Hopefully, this will be adapted in most places so that there would be more responsible driver because of the grave punishment and responsibilities that will fall upon them once they commit it. After all, it is our duty to drink moderately and drive safely, not just for the sake of ourselves, but also for the sake of those people that we are meeting and driving with along the road.
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April 26, 2022, 02:19:20 PM
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Well, someone who has issues as you have said shouldn’t be drunk driving. It’s not like they’re the only ones who has issues in this world, a lot of people also has issues so you shouldn’t come out there driving like a mad person and cutting another person’s life short all because of your stupidity.

So, the law is a good one and even worse should be done to them. If anyone wants to get drunk, then they should make sure that they are not stupidly driving, rather have someone drive you home or you can order an Uber. Not just hop in your car and start driving like a mad person on the road. This is an issue that really needs to be solved.

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April 26, 2022, 02:46:16 PM
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I think the penalty for killing people should be more severe than this so that people will never think of getting drunk and driving. The rich will likely not take the law seriously if all they will be charged for killing a human is money they can easily afford to pay.
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April 26, 2022, 03:03:06 PM
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In India such children are either looked after by close relatives or joint families. Orphanage is the last resort really.

Well, coming back to the accidental crime and parents loosing their lives, yes that should be the punishment for sure. In fact they should be taking of such child until they become of mature age really.

Parenting is something one should not miss. The children those are raised will get discipline, qualities and life lessons from the parent and how they raise them.

Basically they should not be declared as orphan for sure.
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April 26, 2022, 07:06:35 PM
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I think the penalty for killing people should be more severe than this so that people will never think of getting drunk and driving. The rich will likely not take the law seriously if all they will be charged for killing a human is money they can easily afford to pay.

How can one measure the grief of children at the loss of their parents? It cannot be measured by money or material things. Take away a driver's license from such a person? It won't be much of a punishment. Unfortunately, we cannot completely exclude cases of driving under the influence of alcohol. It is necessary to carry out preventive work among people. For a person to accept that he is committing a crime.

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In India such children are either looked after by close relatives or joint families. Orphanage is the last resort really.

Well, coming back to the accidental crime and parents loosing their lives, yes that should be the punishment for sure. In fact they should be taking of such child until they become of mature age really.

Parenting is something one should not miss. The children those are raised will get discipline, qualities and life lessons from the parent and how they raise them.

Basically they should not be declared as orphan for sure.

Comparison with India is not very correct. There are very strong tribal or family ties. And even in very poor families - to take the child of a deceased close relative into their family, this is an absolutely normal situation. More precisely, not performing such a step - this is an oddity in behavior. And the European nation is more "humane" - orphanages, foster families ...

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April 26, 2022, 08:51:01 PM
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Unfortunately, we cannot completely exclude cases of driving under the influence of alcohol. It is necessary to carry out preventive work among people. For a person to accept that he is committing a crime.

Despite to that I think effort towards it can be made so that very large number of people or drivers will go out of careless driving habit and the few remaining will go along way in reducing the incident or chances of occurring very often. I think such bill is a nice introduction to protect young children from outright suffering when their parents die from being hit from a careless drive drunk under the wheel.
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April 26, 2022, 09:46:08 PM
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I think that driving trucks is the most useful area for automated driving if pre-determined tracks for these trailers are set, so that the driver’s role becomes complementary, and this role may be abolished in the future.

The bill is interesting, but it remains difficult for this person to pay the expenses, especially since most truck drivers do not have the extra money to bear the expenses of a child or several children.

I had hoped that these expenses would be directed to the companies that employ these drivers and thus would improve the selection criteria instead of bearing the consequences of the expenses of these minor children.
If those drivers are really thinking on the consequences of their actions if they become drunk and still drive, then they should be careful not to cause other's lives misery. Otherwise, they will support all the needs of the children of the victim. Now, if they lack the means to support them, i guess the company is not responsible for their employee's faults. If they can work on another job that pays higher compensation, then it should be their priority.

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April 29, 2022, 04:21:42 PM
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I think the penalty for killing people should be more severe than this so that people will never think of getting drunk and driving. The rich will likely not take the law seriously if all they will be charged for killing a human is money they can easily afford to pay.
I am not really an expert on the law or anything like that but in many places child support is calculated not as a fixed income but as a percentage of your income, meaning that even someone that was incredibly rich will need to pay a lot of money for drunk driving and killing someone.

Also I think such payment does not really excludes the drunk driver from other legal consequences of their actions, so this seems like a good law to force those drunk divers to take responsibility for their massive mistake.
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April 29, 2022, 06:34:24 PM
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The cases related on drunk driving rise up and there are so many casualties per year recorded as per statistical records show so this law created give justice to the child who's parent are victimized on this unfortunate incident. And maybe thru this law the cases will low since there's a law that will totally add more weight to their case if they got involve on the said case.
I believe that that’s because there isn’t much effort being put into stopping people from drunk driving. Such issues as that should be looked into and solved. There should be rules being put in place as a way to reduce such events from occurring.

And I believe that when the government starts to do what they really meant to do, such as this kind of law that they have implemented, it is really going to help in reducing the rate of loss. but more should be done, and I believe we as the people should also do our best in making sure that such things are avoided.

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They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income.
The death rate due to accidents is quite high in my country and the perpetrators are mostly drunk and sleepy drivers, i support the rules that require the crasher to be fully responsible for the victim's children and if necessary, the company where the crasher works (if the crasher is a truck driver or something else) is also responsible for the child victims of the accident.
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the government in my country is very concerned about this problem, people who drive drunk vehicles are immediately followed up, and they are immediately taken to the nearest police station, but there are still many countries that have not taken action against drunk drivers even when they hit other people they are immediately released without being punished. follow up, the reason is because the authorities cannot arrest them because what was done was outside their consciousness.

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May 01, 2022, 02:33:35 PM
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It is really sad to see people dyung because of the recklessness and carelessness of other people specially people who are breadwinners. Regardless of the reasons why a person got drunk in the first place, he  or she should never drive. And the people who accompanies these drunk drivers are equally responsible for not advising nor preventing these drunk drivers from driving while drunk. Good thing this law has been thought off. I wish this reduces the cases of drunk drivung related accidents.
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May 01, 2022, 02:55:55 PM
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This is good to take the drivers killing people on the road to face consequences when they have refused to obey rules. Drinking gets someone to another level and if you are driving no need to indulging into that. If the drivers killing people because they are doing wrong act of driving, they should take charge of the action they did and make care for the orphan that they made. This is a good policy and it can bring a little orderliness in the system and the road will be free of drunk drivers.
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