I lost my bitcoin

[mishal707]

 
hello everybody
       I hope you will accept my presence and interact with me and solve my problem
       But before I raise my issue, I have to explain the story to you from the beginning
       I am from Kuwait and in 2014 I met an American friend called John via Tinder and he told me that he would come to work in Kuwait for a year and I met him at the airport and he was a very polite person and because I live without a family I offered him to live with me and he welcomed that and he learned Arabic from me and we talked about Christianity and Islam and he was able to convinces me that Christianity is the correct religion and I converted to Christianity so I was the first one convert to a Christian from kuwait and John advised me to invest in bitcoin and I trust John so I borrowed $300,000 and bought over 600 BTC John helped me buy and save the data in my phone and he gave me a paper with all the data insideand he asked me to save this paper well And after one year the john come back to his country and I was trying to convince my community  to Christianity, but I was arrested for 5 years and my phone was also confiscated because Christianity is not welcome in my country and after I got out of prison I went to my house and i found it completely burnt because of racism and contempt for religions, from muslims,
 Then I went to the company where John was working, to look for his phone number but I couldn't find any data about him, and now the bank has filed a lawsuit against me before the court asking me to pay the loan in full after I lost my job and my house
       Sorry for the long post, my question is:
       i have created a new wallet Can I restore my old wallet data with the purchase reference number through my Visa Card ?

   Can anyone help me get my wallet back, because I am really in dire financial hardship and ostracized from my community and want to emigrate .     
    I knowing that all this is a test for me from my god

This is not a joke, please give me a solution
I'm really sorry if my English is not good

 

[mk4]

This story is too bizarre for me to believe it but for the 1% chance that this is actually true, you should know by now that you should lawyer up right?

As for recovering your wallet — while the answer is almost always "your bitcoin is gone, move on", you didn't even give us any information on what exchange and what wallet software you used.

[odolvlobo]

... buy and save the data in my phone and he gave me a paper with all the data inside and he asked me to save this paper well...

Without the phone or the paper, your bitcoins are permanently lost. There is no other way to retrieve them.

[Pmalek]

So John gave you the paper, which means that he was the one who generated the wallet and wrote down the recovery seed or the private key. If that is what was on the paper. Or was it maybe login details to an exchange (a username and password). The only way to regain access to your coins is through the seed and private key.

Before your imprisonment, did you ever check that the coins are there?
You said you met him on Tinder, can't you find him there any longer?
What about his full name, you surely know that if you call him a friend. You shared a home with the guy. have you tried looking for him over social media? 

[pooya87]

I've got a feeling that you never owned any bitcoin to begin with, considering you claim that you have met a completely random person on a "hookup app" and they created everything for you including your bitcoin wallet!
You may only had a watch-only address that contained some bitcoins that didn't belong to you (you didn't have the key to from the start).

[Upgrade00]

You cannot get a solution from this community, whether or not your story is believed.
You did not provide adequate information for any sort of assistance and if seems like you do not have such information to begin with.

John advised me to invest in bitcoin and I trust John so I borrowed $300,000 and bought over 600 BTC John helped me buy and save the data in my phone and he gave me a paper with all the data insideand he asked me to save this paper well And after one year the john come back to his country 

• How much did you learn about Bitcoin before taking out such a huge loan to invest in it, was it the said John who adviced you do that?
• What platform was the Bitcoin bought on, during the period of the year did you check out the Bitcoin or try using the "data" in the paper to access it?Your best bet now is to try and contact "John" and inquire more details if you do not have them.

[Henrobakkara]

This story is actually somehow even though magically worked out for John. He happens to find a friend with no family on Tinder which I don't think I know how all the parameters in there work and you also happen to offer him a place   so nobody you know knows john so as it is right now, john is in the winds. I guess back in 2014 people didn't take saving their wallet access information seriously but with that kind of investment   without any proper wallet access info, I am afraid those Bitcoins are lost.

[Pmalek]

I've got a feeling that you never owned any bitcoin to begin with, considering you claim that you have met a completely random person on a "hookup app" and they created everything for you including your bitcoin wallet!
You may only had a watch-only address that contained some bitcoins that didn't belong to you (you didn't have the key to from the start).

It wouldn't be the first time something like that happened. But let's say that John really purchased those coins for him, he didn't get scammed, and the whole story is true. His house burnt down destroying his backup. The best thing that can happen is if John has a copy of the seed/private keys and he managed to get hold of him. Doubtful. The second-best thing is if the coins are stored on a centralized exchange where OP underwent KYC and he can get back into his account by proving who he is and restoring the password through email.

When we are on the subject of KYC, did you have to do identity verification on the site where you bought the coins or did John maybe ask you for your personal documents?   

[romero121]

Op have met a random person from America through an application that is much used for dating. Somehow both turned to be friends which is agreeable. Further a person getting converted to Christianity or a person converting to Islam is possible. However it is hard to believe a person from America involved in this.

I can't believe a person investing $300k without making any research or study about the particular thing upon which he's making an investment. As per me if this is a true story, then it is his mistake not knowing about bitcoin and investing big. If he have learned, then he could've secured the recovery seed. Now there is no need of such a complication and financial hardship.

[Skybuck]

Try upload a picture of the purchase data, for us readers for some credibility, perhaps if true people can start a crowd funding operation for you ! =D

[m2017]

... buy and save the data in my phone and he gave me a paper with all the data inside and he asked me to save this paper well...

Without the phone or the paper, your bitcoins are permanently lost. There is no other way to retrieve them.

Was it possible to store bitcoin in the phone in 2014 and were there any applications for this at that time? Or was it meant to store information regarding bitcoin in the internal memory of the phone or memory card?

If this whole story is true, then without phone and paper, of course, BTC are lost forever and ever.

[Dunamisx]

Before the community can know has to channel a means of rendering help for you, honestly you need to provide more information about the content of what was on the paper given to you by john, maybe is the keys to the wallets, the type of wallet, or maybe a link to where he backed up the wallet for you or possibly it might even be a home address to locate him whenever you want to access your wallet or have issues related, also if i may ask you have you made moves to sought for john in his contact address aside the work Address? Try a means to as well get your phone fixed if you still have it with you maybe you could get more direction or try locate john by all means, else you might have lost your coins completely.

[sunsilk]

Reading what you've said is unbelievable.

I don't think that this story can ever be true. But let us say that your story is for real, sorry to say that you don't have any backups and no matter how hard you ask for help, no one will do it.

And you've just met someone from Tinder who asked you to buy bitcoin with $300k? That's crazy, trusting a stranger and borrowing that amount.

[Wexnident]

Might be the best to start with the idea of identifying where you bought Bitcoin first. I'd assume since you used Visa, you'd be able to trace it down if you asked for support or something. Not that it's going to help in accessing the wallet itself but it might help you identify what the address of your wallet was and to check and see if it even has funds in the first place. Though that's just for peace of mind I guess, there's no way for you to access your wallet anymore if your key was lost.

[Pesona1]

hello everybody
       I hope you will accept my presence and interact with me and solve my problem
       But before I raise my issue, I have to explain the story to you from the beginning
       I am from Kuwait and in 2014 I met an American friend called John via Tinder and he told me that he would come to work in Kuwait for a year and I met him at the airport and he was a very polite person and because I live without a family I offered him to live with me and he welcomed that and he learned Arabic from me and we talked about Christianity and Islam and he was able to convinces me that Christianity is the correct religion and I converted to Christianity so I was the first one convert to a Christian from kuwait and John advised me to invest in bitcoin and I trust John so I borrowed $300,000 and bought over 600 BTC John helped me buy and save the data in my phone and he gave me a paper with all the data insideand he asked me to save this paper well And after one year the john come back to his country and I was trying to convince my community  to Christianity, but I was arrested for 5 years and my phone was also confiscated because Christianity is not welcome in my country and after I got out of prison I went to my house and i found it completely burnt because of racism and contempt for religions, from muslims,
 Then I went to the company where John was working, to look for his phone number but I couldn't find any data about him, and now the bank has filed a lawsuit against me before the court asking me to pay the loan in full after I lost my job and my house
       Sorry for the long post, my question is:
       i have created a new wallet Can I restore my old wallet data with the purchase reference number through my Visa Card ?

   Can anyone help me get my wallet back, because I am really in dire financial hardship and ostracized from my community and want to emigrate .     
    I knowing that all this is a test for me from my god

This is not a joke, please give me a solution
I'm really sorry if my English is not good

 

I did not find solid evidence of all of your words, there is no proof of purchase, proof of transactions or anything else that corroborates the truth with your story, I don't think we are can to help or provide a solution for your loss (if your story is true) without any evidence, regarding your sentence, I am also concerned about what happened to you and I don't think you should invite someone to convert to a religion in a country that has a majority religion and that clearly violates the laws of that country.

[NeuroticFish]

1. If John gave you that paper, if he had a copy of that paper he could easily have access to the same wallet and transfer the funds out of it.
Since he seems to be a scammer with false identity, I find this very plausible. I've heard plenty of horror stories about nice persons met on Tinder.

2 . Without the original paper or the original wallet you cannot recover your funds, the Visa card info is useless here.
Even more, from the story about this John, I would not be surprised if the paper was containing only an address (hence you can only see the funds, but not spend) and your wallet was a watch-only wallet (again, see, but not spend).

All in all, with or without the prison time, I think that the chance is high that you've got scammed by this John character.
And even if you weren't, with the info you have it's not possible to access those Bitcoin.

Sorry...

[bitzizzix]

This is a very painful story and I think what happened to the OP is a punishment from God, because a Muslim who converts to Islam is considered an apostate. Because it is tantamount to denying the previous religion.
Incidents like this happen in my area and apostates are apostates and there will be events that are detrimental even painful for the person, and what is even more torturous than the OP is that a person named John disappeared without a trace because there is a possibility that he kept a copy.

and your bitcoins will still be there but won't be able to use them permanently unless you have to find the phone and the paper.

[dkbit98]

This is not a joke, please give me a solution

I will consider that all you wrote above is jibberish unless you somehow manage to show use some proof with screenshot of conversations, bitcoin wallet addresses with transaction, that will prove anything from this fairytale really happened.
So you spent 5 years in prison because you became Christian convert and you used Visa card for spending $300,000  
I don't even understand what do you want from us, but I have a feeling your next post is going to be about asking for donations.

I've got a feeling that you never owned any bitcoin to begin with, considering you claim that you have met a completely random person on a "hookup app" and they created everything for you including your bitcoin wallet!

This random person was so convincing that he made him change his religion and borrow $300,000 that he didn't have just to buy some magical internet money called Bitcoin.  
Funny thing that this guy name is John and last name is probably Doe...
 

[skarais]

I don't know if this OP's story is really a joke or not, but sadly I have to say that it makes a lot of sense. I don't want someone randomly fooling forum users with unreasonable claims about bitcoin holdings, sure it would be great if it were true and had solid evidence but sadly it's almost completely a joke.

But if that's true then there's no way that can really help the OP recover his wallet especially since he doesn't have a secure backup of his private key or seed. But it's hard to believe a foreigner would be brave enough to lend $300K to someone who doesn't understand bitcoin.

[Israelgogo]

The main thing here is he poured out in mind and experience crypto can always be a win win deal while sine still suffer loses ..never give up on hope crypto can make or break