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April 29, 2022, 10:48:18 AM
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news such as climate and environment will not have much effect on bitcoin. except about news about an invasion or about an economic boycott of a country. then maybe it will have an effect. because of course the market will have an effect too.
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April 29, 2022, 11:17:15 AM
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news such as climate and environment will not have much effect on bitcoin.

It could have no effect or it could actually have.
Let's say when there is a large protest against the things that have a great threat to our environment and some one who is influential enough will have to decline the acceptance of Bitcoin because of the Bitcoin mining power that excessively consumes every year? Just like what Elon and Tesla did when they refuse to accept Bitcoin  as a form of awareness for everyone on the effect of Bitcoin mining in our environment.


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April 29, 2022, 11:19:46 AM
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If you're constantly up on the news, I'm sure you're aware of the scientists stage worldwide climate change protests.

Over 1,000 scientists from 25 countries took part in the Scientist Rebellion's demonstrations over a week ago.

How does this affect on the market? Or doesn't at all? On the prices of bitcoin?
I don't think that there are even with this to affect Bitcoin or even care about cryptocurrency so Maybe this is not the right manner to ask this here.
and besides what are your concern to ask this mate?
news such as climate and environment will not have much effect on bitcoin. except about news about an invasion or about an economic boycott of a country. then maybe it will have an effect. because of course the market will have an effect too.
Exactly , but lets give the credit to the OP maybe he has other different things to expect in this matter.

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April 29, 2022, 01:28:19 PM
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The environmental impact of PoW as a process, particularly with bitcoin, will certainly impact the mainstream adoption of crypto... we need look no further than Tesla suspending bitcoin as a purchase method due to the energy expenditure of PoW. Even if energy for bitcoin mining was 100% renewable, companies and governments will still be concerned about its perceived association with climate change. PoS coins (soon to include ETH) should benefit, but whether this positive will overcome the negative for the industry as a whole is perhaps less certain.






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April 29, 2022, 02:38:28 PM
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No one would care about environment, until it will be impossible to walk without gas masks. Even then, people would be lazy do care, as it will be easier to change filter or air balloon.

Impossible to make world clean, as dirt, production, factories and etc are more profitable than cleanliness. Or I can rephrase it as "cleanliness is expensive".
   

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April 29, 2022, 03:05:30 PM
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If you're constantly up on the news, I'm sure you're aware of the scientists stage worldwide climate change protests.

Over 1,000 scientists from 25 countries took part in the Scientist Rebellion's demonstrations over a week ago.

How does this affect on the market? Or doesn't at all? On the prices of bitcoin?
I do believe that climate change is one of the biggest global issues, and also one that is not being taken seriously enough. So pushing for eco-friendly sources of energy, motivating people to use public transportation instead of buying cars, and not buy huge houses for a couple of people, as well as motivating them to eat more plant-based food even if they're meat eaters are all relevant things. But it's all not that simple, when it comes to practice. For example, in my country there's a very nice law for green energy that obliges the country to ensure that all of it is bought, even though the price is much higher than for not so green energy. But the biggest provider of the green energy is also the biggest owner of the most polluting plants in my country. I'm sure there are other weird things like that in other countries as well, that show the complexities of tackling the climate change. As for Bitcoin, I think it miners should not be blamed more than any other high consumers of energy, and the legislation should treat them equally, pushing for green energy instead of banning activities that require big amounts of energy.

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April 29, 2022, 08:14:42 PM
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That small protest goes viral, and many people now are already aware about the current situation and most probably this is a wake up call, so I think it can make waves but still its better to have a more crowd to wake up the government as well and do their action as early as possible, this should be addressed the right way.

Bitcoin investors are indeed into the profit only, they didn’t even care about the cost of the mining especially on the electricity simply because that’s a miner concerns and they are just buying and selling, that doesn’t effect the price of Bitcoin after all, at least not yet.
It can easily go viral because of the technology that we have now. I think this is also the reason why some parts of the US are said to undergo a btc mining ban. Why do you want more crowd and why do you want the government to make an action? Do you really want the ban to happen? You're supposed to support btc and not support the ban because you are here and you are taking the benefits of using a bitcoin. If that happens that btc mining is banned, it will affect btc.

I think it can make the network weaker and the news itself will cause for someone to worried which can lead them to sell their precious btc's.

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No, not all the people care because if they do then they shouldn't do things that damages the environment.

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April 29, 2022, 08:45:48 PM
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news such as climate and environment will not have much effect on bitcoin. except about news about an invasion or about an economic boycott of a country. then maybe it will have an effect. because of course the market will have an effect too.
This will still have little effect because indeed when we see some people who are skeptical of bitcoin they always make excuses like this to say that bitcoin is not friendly to the environment and news like that has been done a lot to weaken the price of bitcoin, especially when fud appears.
although it's not too big because things like this have become something that is easily broken in an argument.

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April 29, 2022, 09:01:37 PM
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This will still have little effect because indeed when we see some people who are skeptical of bitcoin they always make excuses like this to say that bitcoin is not friendly to the environment and news like that has been done a lot to weaken the price of bitcoin, especially when fud appears.
although it's not too big because things like this have become something that is easily broken in an argument.
Of course I agree to make a rebuttal to those who are skeptical about bitcoin. Compared to bitcoin, I agree more that mining gold and other natural minerals has seriously damaged the environment that when the perception of the environmental damage caused by bitcoin is expressed, they forget about other big things.

Renewable energy has been discussed quite often, so I think it suffices to say that bitcoin is an eco-friendly asset.

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April 29, 2022, 11:08:24 PM
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news such as climate and environment will not have much effect on bitcoin. except about news about an invasion or about an economic boycott of a country. then maybe it will have an effect. because of course the market will have an effect too.
when the initial FUD about bitcoin became one of the reasons for the damaged environment to appear, the price of bitcoin automatically crashes, this shows that the FUD about the environment has an influence on bitcoin.  but for now its influence is very minimal because Bitcoin is not proven to be the biggest cause of environmental and climate damage.  environmentalists are wrong if they say bitcoin is a serious environmental destroyer.

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April 30, 2022, 07:01:58 AM
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I don't think that nature or the environment is on anybodys mind in the government right now. The top politicians in most countries have a lot more pressing issues they try and focus on. The times where climate change and global warming was on the front page of newspapers is over. For the past two years the world only focuses on covid, now they focus on Russia-Ukraine war and the ecomic aftermath. Topics like national security and rising inflation are much more important for the reelection campaigns that saving the environment. It feels like that politicians still still don't take the topic serious, even if we can already notice the negative effects all around the world. In my opinion we should give more power to the scientist to save the environment, we can't keep living like this.
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I don't think that nature or the environment is on anybodys mind in the government right now. The top politicians in most countries have a lot more pressing issues they try and focus on. The times where climate change and global warming was on the front page of newspapers is over. For the past two years the world only focuses on covid, now they focus on Russia-Ukraine war and the ecomic aftermath. Topics like national security and rising inflation are much more important for the reelection campaigns that saving the environment. It feels like that politicians still still don't take the topic serious, even if we can already notice the negative effects all around the world. In my opinion we should give more power to the scientist to save the environment, we can't keep living like this.

Most people in government only think about the chairs they sit in, and how to stay in those chairs for as long as possible! Most governments think of climate change and ecology only on paper and while collecting votes, and in fact, nothing or very little is being done about it!
But they are not the only ones to blame, it could be said that by our "inaction" we are helping to keep the situation the same! Big changes are needed, but it seems that there is no readiness to start with big changes! In addition to readiness, we probably lack awareness! Worst of all is that the problem is growing from year to year, this is what we leave to future generations!

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April 30, 2022, 08:28:50 AM
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Climate change does not have anything to do with bitcoin volatility,  climate change can happen to be natural and sometimes it is caused by the activities of individuals by burning of natural resources which can cause pollutant to the environment that can affect human being. It  can be a problem to business people health  in the environment , so I think bad climate change can affect economy of a business somehow,  but can't affect bitcoin.

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April 30, 2022, 08:29:34 AM
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This will still have little effect because indeed when we see some people who are skeptical of bitcoin they always make excuses like this to say that bitcoin is not friendly to the environment and news like that has been done a lot to weaken the price of bitcoin, especially when fud appears.
although it's not too big because things like this have become something that is easily broken in an argument.
Of course I agree to make a rebuttal to those who are skeptical about bitcoin. Compared to bitcoin, I agree more that mining gold and other natural minerals has seriously damaged the environment that when the perception of the environmental damage caused by bitcoin is expressed, they forget about other big things.

Renewable energy has been discussed quite often, so I think it suffices to say that bitcoin is an eco-friendly asset.
But the skeptics still use this excuse to attack but I don't really have a problem with it because indeed as you said there is a lot of mining that is more destructive than bitcoin and indeed a lot of the greenhouse effect is making this hotter.

Regardless of what bitcoin is, environmental damage is an old issue that is now not good enough to continue to be discussed because it will only convey that they don't like bitcoin Grin

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April 30, 2022, 10:27:31 AM
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Climate change does not have anything to do with bitcoin volatility,  climate change can happen to be natural and sometimes it is caused by the activities of individuals by burning of natural resources which can cause pollutant to the environment that can affect human being. It  can be a problem to business people health  in the environment , so I think bad climate change can affect economy of a business somehow,  but can't affect bitcoin.

 mining Bitcoin can also cause climate change if they are not using renewable energy or the devices used for it. Because there is only a limited span of time for it, you'll need to change it. But most of the mining now is really into renewable energy to save some money to mine bitcoin. I think all of the things can cause climate change because this needs to be done by, like in trading Bitcoin, the servers of the platform also contribute to climate change.
 
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April 30, 2022, 01:31:14 PM
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I don't think that nature or the environment is on anybodys mind in the government right now. The top politicians in most countries have a lot more pressing issues they try and focus on. The times where climate change and global warming was on the front page of newspapers is over. For the past two years the world only focuses on covid, now they focus on Russia-Ukraine war and the ecomic aftermath. Topics like national security and rising inflation are much more important for the reelection campaigns that saving the environment. It feels like that politicians still still don't take the topic serious, even if we can already notice the negative effects all around the world. In my opinion we should give more power to the scientist to save the environment, we can't keep living like this.

Most people in government only think about the chairs they sit in, and how to stay in those chairs for as long as possible! Most governments think of climate change and ecology only on paper and while collecting votes, and in fact, nothing or very little is being done about it!
But they are not the only ones to blame, it could be said that by our "inaction" we are helping to keep the situation the same! Big changes are needed, but it seems that there is no readiness to start with big changes! In addition to readiness, we probably lack awareness! Worst of all is that the problem is growing from year to year, this is what we leave to future generations!

This is true! Many politicians only think about their purse. What problems will concern these people? They have only one problem - how to sit for a long time at their workplace. And all the political problems they care about only because their personal money can suffer. I do not believe that political parties are worried about the problems of peace and ecology. These problems can be solved quickly, but this has not been done so far and there's always a reason for it.

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April 30, 2022, 02:51:29 PM
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The environment is something that determines health and even life, currently there is too much pollution and waste that can threaten our lives in the future, and it is time for us to switch to environmentally friendly energy such as replacing oil with electric vehicles.
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April 30, 2022, 03:10:27 PM
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Climate change does not have anything to do with bitcoin volatility,  climate change can happen to be natural and sometimes it is caused by the activities of individuals by burning of natural resources which can cause pollutant to the environment that can affect human being. It  can be a problem to business people health  in the environment , so I think bad climate change can affect economy of a business somehow,  but can't affect bitcoin.

 mining Bitcoin can also cause climate change if they are not using renewable energy or the devices used for it. Because there is only a limited span of time for it, you'll need to change it. But most of the mining now is really into renewable energy to save some money to mine bitcoin. I think all of the things can cause climate change because this needs to be done by, like in trading Bitcoin, the servers of the platform also contribute to climate change.
 
the current problem, bitcoin mining requires a large amount of electrical energy, while the electrical energy currently uses non-renewable materials, so that it will gradually destroy nature, due to continuous mining of natural resources. Therefore, if alternative energy is not found immediately, it is feared that climate change will occur, which will have a negative impact on survival in Earth, Therefore, currently there are many references to finding environmentally friendly energy sources, so that later they can be used and are friendly to the environment

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April 30, 2022, 06:29:53 PM
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If you're constantly up on the news, I'm sure you're aware of the scientists stage worldwide climate change protests.

Over 1,000 scientists from 25 countries took part in the Scientist Rebellion's demonstrations over a week ago.

How does this affect on the market? Or doesn't at all? On the prices of bitcoin?

I remember there was a previous post linking climate change to the effects of BTC mining due to the immense energy that it costs. But this was quickly resolved and addressed that such does not entirely affect the climate. While heat was produced by tons of mining rigs, these are all strategically and geographically placed into locations where the heat would be offset by the natural climate of the location (e.g. before in Russia, miners would place their mining rigs in mountains, etc.).

I also doubt that the climate would necessarily effect the prices of BTC in the market. To be honest, this is the last thing that I would think of in the event of climate change as I would prioritize my safety first.

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April 30, 2022, 09:22:44 PM
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What's the relationship between the climate change and Bitcoin?. None right?. Unless if those scientist accept Bitcoin for a purpose they wanted to do like a movement for example which they need money from people who will donate for the sake of their rally or their project to save the planet earth. If those scientist accept Bitcoin then it may bring good impact but if they are only rebelling then the news won't affect Bitcoin at all.
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