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May 01, 2022, 05:28:48 PM
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The American government really can, there are quite a lot of ways available to really end the war if they really wanted to. The thing is, anither variable that the American government has to consider are the sacrifices they have to make to end this war; whther it is worth all the trouble and will it benefit them in the future. Let's face it, these big countries have egos that are as big as their reputation and ranking. No one would compromise for a losing deal.
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May 01, 2022, 10:37:30 PM
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Do you think America is after ending the war in Ukraine? No America can not end the war but can only trigger it to the extreme. The Russians know that America is NATO and the reason why the war started is because Putin see NATO as  it enemy and having a NATO country close to it border make them unsafe. This is why Putin have to attack Ukraine since Ukraine is part of NATO. This war will continue until Putin sees good reason to end the war.

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May 01, 2022, 11:35:20 PM
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Can America end the war in Ukraine??


Since the US started the war, why would they want to stop it? The idea of bringing Ukraine into NATO.

Putin's people are right in there with him. The US could have stopped the war before it became as big and wide-spread as it is right now, but Russia is pushing it, now. The US may no longer have the ability to stop it. Personally, I don't think that the US wants to stop it.



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May 02, 2022, 02:05:56 AM
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Can America end the war in Ukraine??

Since the US started the war, why would they want to stop it? The idea of bringing Ukraine into NATO.

Putin's people are right in there with him. The US could have stopped the war before it became as big and wide-spread as it is right now, but Russia is pushing it, now. The US may no longer have the ability to stop it. Personally, I don't think that the US wants to stop it.

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my employer is from Russia and he also thinks it's not going to stop until Ukraine surrenders. putin tells the world not to give arms to ukraine anymore because it's just going to become worse. on the other hand, US government sends arms through poland. that's the problem in this situation because they're not syncing.

if ukraine put down its arms and asks peace talks to end this war, they could end this war by themselves without having anyone behind them. if the world is suffering from food shortage and gas, particularly in the part of cold europe, the more Ukrainians suffer as there is war.

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May 02, 2022, 02:52:06 AM
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Not really. As the President of USA said numerous times, Russia is a nuclear power and as long as they don’t attack a NATO country, it is not the US’ business. A hot war between the US and Russia would bring the end of the world.

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May 02, 2022, 03:40:07 AM
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Not really. As the President of USA said numerous times, Russia is a nuclear power and as long as they don’t attack a NATO country, it is not the US’ business. A hot war between the US and Russia would bring the end of the world.

Russia will also not attack NATO countries, they've not done so. but the longer this war takes place, Russia may also just build more military structures around Ukraine. the black sea will be surrounded by Putin's bunker and in the long years, EU is just giving him the way to colonize Ukraine which is the strategic location important for trade in this part of EU. 

Ukraine is like the kid is in the middle of a big fight between two bullies. tangled in this mess because the two bullies want his candy. the kid can't get away because the two holds him while both bullies throw punches at him.
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May 02, 2022, 04:48:21 AM
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The only way America can help end this war is through dialogue. America and its allies should adopt diplomacy to end this war. Economically Russia is prepared for this war. Russian economy is to a large extent immune to economic sanctions. Russia can invade sanctions through the help of "friendly nations" like China, Hungary, India, North Korea, South Africa, Syria, etc.. Also, most European countries still depends on Russia for oil and gas, that means Russia would keep getting finance to fund the war. Militarily, Russia can boasts of modern sophisticated armoury that can match the military might of US and her allies. Military aid to Ukraine would only cause more destruction and death.

Hence, economic sanctions and military assistance to Ukraine would never stop Russia from continuing the war. If America wants to end this war, diplomacy and compromise would play a leading role in the quest for peace and stability in Ukraine.

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May 02, 2022, 11:49:12 AM
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The only way America can help end this war is through dialogue. America and its allies should adopt diplomacy to end this war.
Diplomacy with Russia? I'd like to remind you that we're talking about a country that claimed it would not attack Ukraine and is performing military exercise.
A country that denied shooting down Malaysian jet, even though it was proven that they did.
A country that murdered civilians and buried them in mass graves.
A country that agreed to form humanitarian corridors and then bombed them and covered with artillery fire.
Also, a country that planted spies in their embassies and then felt insulted when numerous countries kicked them out.

Diplomacy has officially failed.

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Economically Russia is prepared for this war.

Sure, for 6 months to a year. We'll see what happens after that. Their stock market is already in its worst condition ever and Nord Stream 2 went bankrupt.

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Russian economy is to a large extent immune to economic sanctions.

I guess that's why they have no more paper so jars of mayo have no labels anymore and Lada car manufacturer stopped production due to lack of parts.
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May 02, 2022, 01:11:40 PM
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Can America end the war in Ukraine??

Since the US started the war, why would they want to stop it? The idea of bringing Ukraine into NATO.

Putin's people are right in there with him. The US could have stopped the war before it became as big and wide-spread as it is right now, but Russia is pushing it, now. The US may no longer have the ability to stop it. Personally, I don't think that the US wants to stop it.

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my employer is from Russia and he also thinks it's not going to stop until Ukraine surrenders. putin tells the world not to give arms to ukraine anymore because it's just going to become worse. on the other hand, US government sends arms through poland. that's the problem in this situation because they're not syncing.

if ukraine put down its arms and asks peace talks to end this war, they could end this war by themselves without having anyone behind them. if the world is suffering from food shortage and gas, particularly in the part of cold europe, the more Ukrainians suffer as there is war.



That is exactly the problem... the US arming the Ukraine through Poland.

There is a tipping point. At some point the US could have stopped the war. But if the US backs off now, we will see the beginnings of the old Soviet Union with Ukraine.

And Europe with their fuel crisis. Putin didn't do it. No! He only put the finishing touches on something that Europe did. Europe sided with the US and cut off banking and other things regarding Russia. Putin said, "Ouch! That hurt. We of Russia really need to back off and rethink about dealing with these two-faced, European, hypocrites." The US was using their relations with Europe to mess with Russia. And Europe obeyed the US.

One major point about this whole war and the reasons for it. While we know that the Ukraine government and some of their corporations are corrupt - a point suggesting that Russia might totally be acting in self defense - we also DON'T know what tricks Russia was trying to play to influence their taking over of the whole world. Perhaps Russia's trading with other countries was being done in a way that could give a whole lot more power to Russia.

What's wrong with that? It has been Russia's expressed plan that they will sometime rule the world... just as the Georgia Guidestones (US Georgia) suggest the same or similar for the US... right out in the open.

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May 02, 2022, 01:36:52 PM
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The only way America can help end this war is through dialogue. America and its allies should adopt diplomacy to end this war.
Diplomacy with Russia? I'd like to remind you that we're talking about a country that claimed it would not attack Ukraine and is performing military exercise.
A country that denied shooting down Malaysian jet, even though it was proven that they did.
A country that murdered civilians and buried them in mass graves.
A country that agreed to form humanitarian corridors and then bombed them and covered with artillery fire.
Also, a country that planted spies in their embassies and then felt insulted when numerous countries kicked them out.

Diplomacy has officially failed.

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Economically Russia is prepared for this war.

Sure, for 6 months to a year. We'll see what happens after that. Their stock market is already in its worst condition ever and Nord Stream 2 went bankrupt.

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Russian economy is to a large extent immune to economic sanctions.

I guess that's why they have no more paper so jars of mayo have no labels anymore and Lada car manufacturer stopped production due to lack of parts.
https://9gag.com/gag/avAdPxE
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a39414674/lada-stops-building-cars-russia/



Remember, Russia only lacks people to work their lands of Siberia. If they had enough people, they could rule the world through Siberian material.

Putin is taking care of this, albeit in a slow way. In 2018 he opened up homesteading in Siberia. And even Steven Seagal, US movie star, has taken advantage of it... https://tsarizm.com/amp/news/eastern-europe/2020/07/27/steven-seagal-takes-advantage-of-russian-homesteading-program-near-lake-baikal/.

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May 03, 2022, 12:50:29 PM
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America can only stop the war of Ukraine and Russia if they follow it dialogue. But were by america supporting Russian or neither Ukraine by giving each of the country war supplements. With this method i fish out that it means the war can never come to end. I think world peace keeping ambassador is still existing.so with this sector or set of government function can call the problem of Ukraine and Russia to bar. And it can only happens if peace making ambassador is mandated to do so with other top countries support
Do you think dialoguing will cut it? Recently, the Biden administration went to Geneva for a summit and could not really state convincingly his plans for leadership and was described as weakling. I think more actions need to be shown asides from supporting them with missiles and the like. What I think can stop the war is if NATO, mostly run by the US can disqualify Ukraine from joining up, then the war I think will end because that's why Russia is fighting.

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May 03, 2022, 09:21:48 PM
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At the current time, even if the US simply pulled out of the Ukraine, it will take a year for things to settle down between the Ukraine and Russia. But as long as the US keps arming the Ukraine, Russia is going to push back.

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At the current time, even if the US simply pulled out of the Ukraine, it will take a year for things to settle down between the Ukraine and Russia. But as long as the US keps arming the Ukraine, Russia is going to push back.

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Are you sure? Just a year? More like never.

The US policy is to destroy the Russian army so that it never is able to do this to any other country.
Russia will "push back" until it runs out of tanks.

Do you think the US/NATO will run out of Stingers/Javelins before Russia runs out of tanks?
Russia will be crushed.

There will be no relationship with fascist Russia. Sorry to disappoint you.


guaranteed there is so much support for Ukraine, none of them got there the ground zero because if they do show there, Putin will send his weapons of mass destruction to shoot a single outsider's vehicle. it will sound overkill but they can justify this because he had sent warnings already live on TV. while they are not yet doing that, NATO countries will have to be careful not to provoke them from doing it.

i'm not sure if he can get west but he did get the eastern part of Ukraine.

Putin has not even received the eastern part and will not receive it, a dick in the ass, that's what he will get!

Who knows where his asshole has been? I don't think you will find many volunteers who would be willing to risk their dicks for this special operation.

I am sure you'd find millions who would gladly put his head on a pike.

like it or not, he had already grabbed part of the Crimea back in 2014 as far as i know. there were commotions in that region when Putin started invading it. i know he is not as good as we think. he could be the craziest bastard on earth but truth is that they are there to stay as much BTC is here to stay.

in a few years, maybe 10 years from now, we will all forget this war and get used to Putin owning that region of Ukraine as much as we got used to seeing Pakistan not part of India anymore after Gandi break it away. unless someone can actually kick Putin out there. but WHO?


My money is on Lockheed Martin/Raytheon and BAE Systems, lol.

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^^^ In other words, stop Russia, even if it upsets the whole world enough to send us back to the Middle Ages.

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The American Government led by Joe Biden is weak in taking decisive action in stopping the war , that is why I love Donald Trump a lot you don't mess up with him , he said in an interview if it was his tenure he will tell Putin that US has more superior weapon he doesn't know more than Russia ,Russia has been using the N-word to threaten the US government and its NATO Alies and Putin is taking this advantage to scale his mission through.
With the current situation on ground and with the way in which US is handling this situation, it will take long time to stop the war If they could because there is also business opportunities in the face of the war for the US irrespective of the snowball effect.

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May 08, 2022, 04:23:46 PM
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No, the U.S. can't end this war as it can only be ended by the gang of warmongers in the Kremlin. So the question itself is pointless. It's obvious that most people here don't know the first thing about the history of Ukraine and its relationships with Russia. FYI, over the past few centuries, there have been 28 armed conflicts between the two, not to mention three man-made famines. Many of those happened before the U.S. even emerged on the map. Russia would have begun that war eventually whether the U.S. or the EU were involved or not, the reason to pick up the fight has always been found - that's how history dictates.
It's better for us, crypto nerds, to be focused on how this war would affect the crypto market, though it's already evident that the bear market or even the crypto winter is the closest since 2018.

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Russia, being the largest nuclear Power ahead of America, have dropped anchor in Ukraine since February, have made it a life's mission to bring down Ukraine, upsetting the mundane life activities of its citizens.
 While Ukraine is older in years to Russia, the latter seems to have increased in size and economic, military might. Because of this growth, they now see Ukraine as younger and are dominating them.
 America have been known as one the countries who feel the strike against Ukraine is not necessary.
Recently, during the Easter celebration in Ukraine, they were visited by both secretaries of state and defense, Anthony Blinken and Lloyd Austin. These two managed to put a little hope in the hearts of the people of Russia.
 My question is, it's true that America's military might is more than Russia, can they be able to defeat Russia out of benevolence or is there something attached?? Your thoughts please. https://www.economist.com/europe/america-is-now-thinking-of-winning-the-war-in-ukraine/21808960
Yes It is true that America's military is much stronger than that of Russia, In fact, if you understand Geo-politics, America's or NATO's interference in every world Conflict is a big reason why this war is happening in the first place. But is having a stronger military enough to win the war or at least in this situation stop a war? Answer is NO, unless it's 1945 and America was the only nuclear nation this would have been possible because US would have threatened a nuclear strike which is much more devastation than Russia would ever be able to do, but it 2022, Russia has equally strong Nuclear Arsenal to US, if US threatens nuclear strike, Russia will retaliate. So answer is NO, America with it's army can surely not end this war, but Diplomacy is the only solution here, if US can pitch in some agreement among both countries then they might be able stop this war.
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May 09, 2022, 01:48:13 PM
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Russia, being the largest nuclear Power ahead of America, have dropped anchor in Ukraine since February, have made it a life's mission to bring down Ukraine, upsetting the mundane life activities of its citizens.
 While Ukraine is older in years to Russia, the latter seems to have increased in size and economic, military might. Because of this growth, they now see Ukraine as younger and are dominating them.
 America have been known as one the countries who feel the strike against Ukraine is not necessary.
Recently, during the Easter celebration in Ukraine, they were visited by both secretaries of state and defense, Anthony Blinken and Lloyd Austin. These two managed to put a little hope in the hearts of the people of Russia.
 My question is, it's true that America's military might is more than Russia, can they be able to defeat Russia out of benevolence or is there something attached?? Your thoughts please. https://www.economist.com/europe/america-is-now-thinking-of-winning-the-war-in-ukraine/21808960
Yes It is true that America's military is much stronger than that of Russia, In fact, if you understand Geo-politics, America's or NATO's interference in every world Conflict is a big reason why this war is happening in the first place. But is having a stronger military enough to win the war or at least in this situation stop a war? Answer is NO, unless it's 1945 and America was the only nuclear nation this would have been possible because US would have threatened a nuclear strike which is much more devastation than Russia would ever be able to do, but it 2022, Russia has equally strong Nuclear Arsenal to US, if US threatens nuclear strike, Russia will retaliate. So answer is NO, America with it's army can surely not end this war, but Diplomacy is the only solution here, if US can pitch in some agreement among both countries then they might be able stop this war.

Diplomacy with Russia is not possible because of its kleptocratic, fascist government. No agreement signed with Russia will hold.

The only way forward for Russia is to undergo a fundamental, progressive shift to a democratic, open society.

Russia has a lot of potential, and resources, but the country has been hijacked by a small group of Soviet officials who brainwashed the vast majority of the Russian population. Alcoholism and drug abuse are rampant. Russian society is regressing, intelligent people are leaving in droves. Russia is rapidly transforming into the Soviet Union. And we all know what resulted from that social experiment.

I think this war with Ukraine will lead to the fall of the current Russian government, complete demilitarization of its nuclear arsenal, and
potentially a territorial breakup of the Far East and Caucasus regions. Think end of Cold War 2.0.

Ukraine will get all its territories back.  Not tomorrow, not next month, but eventually.

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May 09, 2022, 04:12:05 PM
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^^^ Actually, never.

Russia has it's back against the wall. So, it will fight with everything it has. And it has a lot. The resulting destruction when it fights, will obliterate Russia, but it will also destroy any strength that the rest of the world has. We will be plunged back into medieval times if not into the stone age.

The US might survive after limited a fashion. The Ukraine won't. China might.

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