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May 01, 2022, 06:49:44 PM
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OP is right before I am quoting the whole thread for my response cause I didnt know how to do the per kine quote when I was a newbie but literally changed it now. But Ive still see some older members doing so, so better to learn on how to quote properly. It also helps on direct to the point answer when responsing.

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May 01, 2022, 07:25:51 PM
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What about the ones who write in all caps simply because they think it shows emphasis. I don't even bother to read such posts nowadays.


The problem is that some members abuse this option to make their posts look longer and more meaningful, when in fact they make them completely uninteresting.
I don't understand how making a block quote would make someone's posts look longer when in actual fact character and word counts begin with the said user's comment and not from the quoted. Not only is block quote uninteresting to read, it's confusing going through who said what and what from the post, especially ones that involve up to four yolked quotes.

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May 01, 2022, 07:47:42 PM
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Posting multiple posts in a row.

This annoys me a lot seeing one person posting repeatedly and in some
case not even making a significant point at the end, I don't know if they're
doing it in order to bump thread to the top.

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May 01, 2022, 11:26:09 PM
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Posting multiple posts in a row.

This annoys me a lot seeing one person posting repeatedly and in some
case not even making a significant point at the end, I don't know if they're
doing it in order to bump thread to the top.
When someone comes in the forum and instead of reading what is going on in the forum - they ask the question. lol
Also most of the newbie want to get rich the moment they join in as a member. They should know good things take time and patience.

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May 02, 2022, 05:33:40 AM
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I remember early discussions that a lot of people didn't like being called "Sir" often. It may be normal for the word to be spelled infrequently, but some beginners tend to overdo it, thereby eliciting inappropriate attitudes such as pity.

I would rather communicate with a person who feels equal, rather than belittling himself, by frequently addressing "Sir".

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May 02, 2022, 06:50:19 AM
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I would rather communicate with a person who feels equal, rather than belittling himself, by frequently addressing "Sir".
I'm beginning to dread that too, though I don't know how that came to be or why it's like that. In my clime, using that sir appellation is a way of showing respect. However, here, I've read some veterans argue that it's disrespectful to address one like that. I think I picked that and have stopped addressing people that way across all social media. However, if I know the person I'm addressing is truly older than I am, I use "Sir"regardless. Again, there's the use of "they, their or them" in addressing a single person when we don't know "their" sex. It's a safe way to play than using a she or he and then getting it wrong. Semantically, that contradicts a basic law of English Concord. Things we learn on social media are very astonishing, honestly.

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May 02, 2022, 07:22:31 AM
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About using the quote option:

One day as I was scouting the forum, I saw a Hero member who quoted an Op that is as long as a full article and just replied with two lines sentence. I felt disappointed that it came from a Hero member and not a newbie. According to Op, the reason they quote long posts to reply is to make their posts appear long. I consider this frivolous because everyone reading posts know the difference between a post and a quoted post.

About replying posts in a row. If some was mentioned, and he quotes that particular reply he was mentioned and reply to it and immediately drop a fresh reply below the first, is it against the rule?

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May 02, 2022, 09:28:34 AM
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~snip~

Rank means nothing, especially if we know that these are members from the old era before the merit system - and then every shitposter could become Legendary with regular posting. The fact that some of them even today act as total beginners speaks for itself.

About replying posts in a row. If some was mentioned, and he quotes that particular reply he was mentioned and reply to it and immediately drop a fresh reply below the first, is it against the rule?

If you reply to multiple posts then it makes sense to multi-quote them and reply in one post. Replying to each post individually in a row is against the rules.

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.



There are also features/icons in the forum that we can see directly above as we are typing a new post/thread, all of that can also be employed to make our post look more beautiful, for example just the way @Lucius used the underline feature/icon in this post to separate the two posts he quoted, i am not saying users should use them always or abuse them, but if employed skillfully, it would make your posts aesthetically pleasing to read.

It's no secret that it's not all in the content (which is of course the most important), but in the way that content is presented, and that's something that many appreciate when reading posts. However, this is something that can be learned over time, and few can boast that they were at a high level from the beginning in terms of quality of content and presentation.

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May 02, 2022, 11:28:12 AM
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Thank you for this simple and helpful post, which will definitely be a great help for beginners like me.

The pointers shared would be a great help to understand, how one can post the article in the forum.

I believe the shared article is to help the beginners and also keep them updated about do’s and don’ts to be followed from their end.
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May 02, 2022, 11:34:46 AM
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To extend on the "Using the Quote" option part, I really hate to see when someone quotes the entire OP when replaying to the thread starter. I know what I wrote, you don't have to quote me. Especially not for a thank you or this is very helpful type of posts. There is no reason one should do that, but if you do, at least remove the images from the quoted OP.


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Some beginners also often don't know how to trim long posts in quotes so they have to quote whole posts just to add some unimportant words.
We also shouldn't forget that the forum isn't well suited when posting from a phone. Imagine having to remove big parts of a post just to quote a few sentences on a phone. Instead, they just do what is easier. That's still not a reason and justification of why you should do it.

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May 02, 2022, 11:53:19 AM
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Large images and double posts do harm the discussion, but a mile long quote must become criminal offense. This is seriously annoying. One creates a thread, regarding an important matter and then boom, shitposter awakes and quotes the entire damn thing.

Also, cut the crap with "Res" under the OP. If you want to say something, say it.

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I remember early discussions that a lot of people didn't like being called "Sir" often. It may be normal for the word to be spelled infrequently, but some beginners tend to overdo it, thereby eliciting inappropriate attitudes such as pity.

I would rather communicate with a person who feels equal, rather than belittling himself, by frequently addressing "Sir".

Let me be honest, sometimes it is how some people  are brought up, it happens to me. Wherever I find  my self I always respect people who I know they are my senior in one way or the other. When I came to the forum I met senior people who are doing great job and contributing to the forum, sometimes I feel some how mentioning their name even if I don't know them real life, but I know they are my senior here in the forum, I need to give that respect .

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May 02, 2022, 02:42:31 PM
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Also, cut the crap with "Res" under the OP. If you want to say something, say it.
I think that "Res" thing means Reserved. It used to be in vogue in 2017/2018 and was used to book space for signature campaign slots at a time when campaign managers made their selections based on First Come First Served basis. This day, selections aren't based on that any more. I think it's now based on subjective merit or other considerations by the manager. So, it would really be hilarious to see "Res" on threads that aren't campaign threads or one put up by OP after announcing a campaign so as to address issues later, expectedly. Expect you think it's needless for campaign managers to still use it. Otherwise, I think it's still in tandem for them.

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Last edit: May 03, 2022, 08:38:08 PM by Mr. Big
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I would rather communicate with a person who feels equal, rather than belittling himself, by frequently addressing "Sir".
I'm beginning to dread that too, though I don't know how that came to be or why it's like that. In my clime, using that sir appellation is a way of showing respect. However, here, I've read some veterans argue that it's disrespectful to address one like that. I think I picked that and have stopped addressing people that way across all social media.
This matter is grossly subjective and depends much on the environment (informal and formal).
When I joined the forum, I was using it continuously until I discovered that it's unofficial against the norms of this place.
In my neighbourhood, I greet every male occupant with Sir and they reciprocate by replying with sir. Things goes well especially when you don't know their names and does not wish to know.
Then, when I worked with a company, everyone is addressed by their names including the CEO.


If you reply to multiple posts then it makes sense to multi-quote them and reply in one post. Replying to each post individually in a row is against the rules.
I believe you didn't understand me, see what I meant with this reply and a fresh one with different context I'm dropping below.



The importance of having a good worded presentation cannot be over emphasised. One may have a good idea and ends up murdering the idea with wrong presentation, either by quoting a long wall of text or sharing an image that will occupy a full page. These acts are unwelcoming and breaches smooth communication .

Let me include this point;
Too much coloration:
It is always unpleasant to me when I see posts that is much decorated with colours It drags attention and rub same on the mud. Here is not a fine art platform and hence using of colours in the wrong way should be frowned at.
I believe the above comment is irrating already, despite that it has a cool point.

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Maybe this kind of posting is better reported as low value or maybe under plagiarism but let me put it here as I also find it annoying.

Copying a portion of an article, adding a link reference, but not adding anything worthy to the topic created.

Examples:
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Shark Tank star Mark Cuban has come up with a way to solve Twitter’s spam problem using the meme cryptocurrency dogecoin (DOGE). Tesla and Spacex CEO Elon Musk agrees that it is “not a bad idea.” Twitter recently accepted Musk’s buyout offer.

Elon Musk Optimistic About Mark Cuban’s Dogecoin Idea
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has been discussing on Twitter how to solve the platform’s spam bot problem. He has promised to solve the spam problem “or die trying.” Twitter agreed to sell the company to Musk for about $44 billion last week.

Details:
https://news.bitcoin.com/gofrom/most_popular/elon-musk-mark-cuban-discuss-using-dogecoin-to-solve-twitter-spam-problem

What do you think about Mark Cuban’s idea to use dogecoin to fight spam on Twitter?


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Samsung Group’s investment arm is reportedly set to list a blockchain exchange-traded fund (ETF) on the Hong Kong Exchange during the first half of this year. The ETF will have a structure which is similar to that of BLOK, one of Amplify Holdings’s ETF products.

Details:
https://news.bitcoin.com/samsung-group-investment-arm-to-list-blockchain-etf-on-hong-kong-exchange/


^ Quoted the entire post in case of edits. I also prefer this rather than posting links from scrapers (tryninja/loyce).

The user must have also thought it's an easier way to meet weekly post quota.
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In my neighbourhood, I greet every male occupant with Sir and they reciprocate by replying with sir. Things goes well especially when you don't know their names and does not wish to know.
Then, when I worked with a company, everyone is addressed by their names including the CEO.
The situation I described in that quote is one that deals with online and social media. You hardly know the ages of people you're dealing with. However, if I happen to guess than a user is older than I am maybe because I've seen their real picture on Facebook or on other identity revealing sites, I won't hesitate to address them as sir. That's my point. Of course, in real life we know those who are older than we are and it will be disrespectful not to acknowledge that all in the name of sounding woke. I won't do that.

BTW, you just committed one of the things the OP pointed out – Posting multiple posts in a row

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I think most of us fall in either of the category in one way or the other, firstly when talking about editing pictures to a normal size, i also find it disgusting having a post with an extra large image which obviously doesn't necessitate having an interest on it nor does it implies quality and meaning insight it can offer. Another aspect as stated by Lucius is the quoting aspect, honestly i see a need to only quote the major idea or area of emphasis than quoting the whole post which does not even look presentable on sight and the main point might not be well understood as all the post were being quoted.

And i see an attitude of lackadaisical manner in this regard which we all unknowingly exhibit even though it's not against the forum rules and am not left out in this as well, if a particular thought is quoted its an indication of two things: first, that you have red and understood the whole post, and secondly you specifically direct on comments on that particular area you quoted, and lastly it makes a post look neat with a beauty that can attract an attention to reading what you're trying to pass across.

Lastly, permit me as well to add this "Paragraphing" this aspect is also vital while making a post on the forum as the whole write ups needed to be presented with a paragraph so as to indicate sections, points, and make easier for the viewer to be fascinating enough for a reading, and its not necessarily that one have to overflood the page with write-ups before the main idea is passed across, and here i see the need to a comprehensive summary and paragraphing were needed and appropriately.


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The situation I described in that quote is one that deals with online and social media. You hardly know the ages of people you're dealing with. However, if I happen to guess than a user is older than I am maybe because I've seen their real picture on Facebook or on other identity revealing sites, I won't hesitate to address them as sir. That's my point. Of course, in real life we know those who are older than we are and it will be disrespectful not to acknowledge that all in the name of sounding woke. I won't do that.
Well, my usage of the word sir is not tied to someone's age. Whether you are older or younger, in as much as you are a responsible young man,  whose name I don't know, I will likely address you as sir.
I think the Oxford dictionary agrees with my definition of the word 'sir'.
Quote from: Oxford dictionary
Used as a polite way of addressing a man whose name you do not know, for example in a shop/store or restaurant

BTW, you just committed one of the things the OP pointed out – Posting multiple posts in a row
If you can read again, you will understand that it is purposely done and I used it as an instance and to ask a question. I asked Lucius and it seems he didn't understand the question. Now you can answer me. Someone said if I first replied to a post by quoting people and immediately drop a fresh post with a new context, it's not against the rule. Example is what I did above. Is that correct?

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May 03, 2022, 07:53:40 PM
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I think the Oxford dictionary agrees with my definition of the word 'sir'.
Quote from: Oxford dictionary
Used as a polite way of addressing a man whose name you do not know, for example in a shop/store or restaurant
I'm not sure anyone will dispute the correctness of that usage. What I tried to explain (as advanced by some users too) is that it's not necessary using "sir" on social media where people are seemingly faceless.

BTW, you just committed one of the things the OP pointed out – Posting multiple posts in a row
Is that correct?
I already answered your question in the above. However, I think where such doesn't count as an offence is in the local board. Though I see a lot of veteran users do that in other boards too.

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BTW, you just committed one of the things the OP pointed out – Posting multiple posts in a row
Is that correct?
I already answered your question in the above. However, I think where such doesn't count as an offence is in the local board. Though I see a lot of veteran users do that in other boards too.
Yea, I can see it's an offence, the reply of mine has already been merged by a moderator.
Just to clear my doubts cox I have seen also established users do it aswell but didn't take note which board. Thanks!

R


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