Who's behind the mysterious Bitcoin?

[ariinv]

On 1974 Donald Rumsfeld wrote a memo for Deputy of security of white house and predicted Oil booming and danger of Arabs and Persians from tremendous sudden income and possible changes in middle east, he mentioned USA should find a remedy and manage Arab leaders to sell Oil against USD, and recycle it by selling superficial luxury products and technology! Earlier Gold back USD game was over by Nixon and they should find a new motive to hold on to USD. They convinced Arab producers to sell oil against USD only and overthrowed the Persian king who resisted   against this political plan.

In the 1991 shale oil report presented in the US congress, they came to know the PetroDollar  age is over and they can start a new political /economical plan to change the game and save USD from trillion of inflation over 40 years exported to middle east and oil countries. The remedy was Bitcoin, maybe this is the reason that Nicolas Talib called it the greatest scam of history. To be honest, banking is a scam itself and there is not a difference.

Now World leaders , those running the USD have made the Mythology of Satoshi Nakamoto, an unknown creative person who lived in a different era . They call Bitcoin the salvation of a new sanctuary and many people now believed in that and easy regulation and money transfer and many more good advantages attracted many investors and many alt-coins followed the path and now we have a 1.7 trillion USD growing market.  Did you ever think why we can easily transfer two BTC around 80K USD without any KYC but if we transfer 7k to our personal account they freeze that account and we have to show them plenty of documents to release that?

Why is BTC big wallets holding millions and billions of USDT unknown but for opening a penny account we have to submit plenty of documents and pay lodge fees ?!

By any chance is this possible most of these wallets belong to the federal reserve itself and just waiting they burn enough petro dollars of oil countries by playing with BTC Market and when they are convinced enough is enough bull run the price to million USD and start a new age of crypto back dollar?

The Chinese found out about this matter two late when more than 18 million of BTC mined in China but quite a big chunk of profit was received to huge mining  farms in Texas!

I agree it's quite a wise decision to buy and hold BTC because I believe this is the game and Bitcoin will get to Million Dollar one day!
anxiously waiting to know your Idea about that.

[Accardo]

why we can easily transfer two BTC around 80K USD without any KYC but if we transfer 7k to our personal account they freeze that account and we have to show them plenty of documents to release that?

Sorry I'm answering your question with another question, have you thought about the reason why the issue of bitcoin is bringing employment to the centralized finance institutions like banks or even the SEC. Bitcoin got no rules attached to how much you want to send or receive, pay your fees and the transaction is confirmed and everyone is good. The bank have a strict rule on specific amounts that should attract numerous documents before the money is cleared. So, before you get deceived that bitcoin is a scam think about the question above and remember that the SEC hired 22 employees to expand the unit in-charge of bitcoin regulation. Those people were hired to work against bitcoin but, they got hired in the first place. Without the existence of bitcoin those employees would have been jobless. The energy of bitcoin is both ways and it serves the public both those who are against it benefit for being against bitcoin and those who are for bitcoin get more profits for believing in the technology. I wish you'll understand my point.

[coupable]

why we can easily transfer two BTC around 80K USD without any KYC but if we transfer 7k to our personal account they freeze that account and we have to show them plenty of documents to release that?

Sorry I'm answering your question with another question, have you thought about the reason why the issue of bitcoin is bringing employment to the centralized finance institutions like banks or even the SEC. Bitcoin got no rules attached to how much you want to send or receive, pay your fees and the transaction is confirmed and everyone is good. The bank have a strict rule on specific amounts that should attract numerous documents before the money is cleared. So, before you get deceived that bitcoin is a scam think about the question above and remember that the SEC hired 22 employees to expand the unit in-charge of bitcoin regulation. Those people were hired to work against bitcoin but, they got hired in the first place. Without the existence of bitcoin those employees would have been jobless. The energy of bitcoin is both ways and it serves the public both those who are against it benefit for being against bitcoin and those who are for bitcoin get more profits for believing in the technology. I wish you'll understand my point.

Who told you that those 22 employee are against bitcoin? If if they are hired to suggest more regulations over bitcoin use but they should be experts in blockchaon and bitcoin. If they are against it, then why to have great background knowledge about it?

[glendall]

how they  freeze personal wallet
As far as I know our personal wallets are the only ones who know, I don't know if you mean the frozen exchange wallet, it makes sense that if you transfer 7k btc at once you are called a hacker because as rich as people play smooth in using the exchange.
deposit you don't need KYC but if you withdraw / transfer I think you need KYC

I hope my thoughts are not far from the input you want because I am a little confused to digest what you mean

[Darker45]

Forget about your far-fetched theory, just focus on Bitcoin as it is. Whether Bitcoin was created by the Fed or the CIA, whether Satoshi Nakamoto was just a myth, Bitcoin could be independently appreciated for what it is. And it is what it is, a truly decentralized, trustless, immutable currency. So embracing Bitcoin should not be emanating from bizarre theories. Rather, it is through an objective scrutiny of its features.

[nullama]

Satoshi Nakamoto is/was a real person.

There are countless of messages, posts, source code, and emails written by this person. You can read them all here: https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org

After you read about it you will have a better understanding of Bitcoin in general.

Bitcoin was released in January 2009, but it was only until 2011 when the CIA got curious about Bitcoin and asked Gavin to give a talk there: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=6652.0

Other government bodies continued to ignore Bitcoin for years.

If you read these things you'll have a more informed view of Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto.

[hd49728]

Satoshi Nakamoto is/was a real person.

We have yet known and verified that Satoshi Nakamoto is a person, company, group, agency or whatever kind of entity. If you called Satoshi Nakamoto is a person, it is not accurate at least now. If you have any evidence to support your opinion, please provide it here.

There are countless of messages, posts, source code, and emails written by this person. You can read them all here: https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org

The List Satoshi Nakamoto Thread
I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread.
There are so many abundant topics on Satoshi Nakamoto as you can see, I don't think new topics are necessary. In addition, Satoshi Nakamoto is / are genius and successfully hid real identity from Cypherpunks to old forum (bitconi.sourceforge.net) and this forum as well as past Bitcoin transactions, I don't see any opportunity for us nowadays to find real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.

[hugeblack]

I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but $1 trillion is not a huge amount in the overall global economy of about $300 trillion.
The petrodollar is still left due to the political, economic and military power of the United States and it will not be changed unless there is a real change in the balance of the game in the third world war, and therefore it is difficult to consider bitcoin as an alternative to the petrodollar.
Or at least for humans to find a more efficient and cheaper source of energy, something that needs tens of years.

[nullama]

Satoshi Nakamoto is/was a real person.

We have yet known and verified that Satoshi Nakamoto is a person, company, group, agency or whatever kind of entity. If you called Satoshi Nakamoto is a person, it is not accurate at least now. If you have any evidence to support your opinion, please provide it here.
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Well, it's just my opinion based on reading all those texts, source code, emails, etc. They all seem to be consistent, as in, written by a single person, in a single timezone, with a single writing style, etc.

In my view the default conclusion would be that Satoshi Nakamoto is/was one person, unless there's evidence to prove that there were multiple people accessing the account.

Some accounts were later hacked and it was pretty obvious the difference in tone in the messages. It's evident for anyone reading those messages that the newer ones come from a different person(there were a few emails, and a couple of posts online after Satoshi was gone).

Of course it's not proof, but in my view there's more chance of him being a single person that a group. It doesn't matter anyway.

[ariinv]

why we can easily transfer two BTC around 80K USD without any KYC but if we transfer 7k to our personal account they freeze that account and we have to show them plenty of documents to release that?

Sorry I'm answering your question with another question, have you thought about the reason why the issue of bitcoin is bringing employment to the centralized finance institutions like banks or even the SEC. Bitcoin got no rules attached to how much you want to send or receive, pay your fees and the transaction is confirmed and everyone is good. The bank have a strict rule on specific amounts that should attract numerous documents before the money is cleared. So, before you get deceived that bitcoin is a scam think about the question above and remember that the SEC hired 22 employees to expand the unit in-charge of bitcoin regulation. Those people were hired to work against bitcoin but, they got hired in the first place. Without the existence of bitcoin those employees would have been jobless. The energy of bitcoin is both ways and it serves the public both those who are against it benefit for being against bitcoin and those who are for bitcoin get more profits for believing in the technology. I wish you'll understand my point.

Thank you for your comment. Do you think those people hired by the FED were jobless before ? FED just hire professional people most of them were working for CoinBase and other crypto teams , Gary head of SEC was teaching block chain in MIT , they are hired to regulate bitcoin and cryptocurrency market , Gensler mentioned clearly in congress that the only thing that he is against that is scammers who made a bad reputation for cryptocurrency market. Compared to the Bitcoin 2021 conference and bitcoin 2022, more people from congress , FED, SEC and government body, planned to start the age of crypto back Dollar! They are not against that at all , they going to play with that to burn all Petro- Dollars , wait and watch

[ariinv]

how they  freeze personal wallet
As far as I know our personal wallets are the only ones who know, I don't know if you mean the frozen exchange wallet, it makes sense that if you transfer 7k btc at once you are called a hacker because as rich as people play smooth in using the exchange.
deposit you don't need KYC but if you withdraw / transfer I think you need KYC

I hope my thoughts are not far from the input you want because I am a little confused to digest what you mean

I mean they normal banking system they freeze your account for amounts more than 7 or 10k not your wallet!

[Ryu_Ar1]

Is this an episode of the new conspiracy theory
it seems quite exciting if there are more episodes because I really like reading things that smell like this but sorry, I will only consider this a story

What I mean is why should we bother looking at how far this goes and starting with ideas that relate to decades ago? I'm just going to focus on bitcoin now and it's much better like analyzing their movements than bothering to look for something that is not certain because the longer you think about things like this you will only make you more filled with disbelief in something and in context these are bitcoins. But at least there's something good here: your imagination is growing lol

[yhiaali3]

Personally, I do not rule out anything in the hidden politics of the United States of America, we are used to the United States playing hidden games that are difficult for the human mind to believe, but I personally do not care if Satoshi is a fictitious person or a group of people or even an agent of the CIA, who matters to me that I found in Bitcoin All the features I want by being a decentralized currency with value and through it I got my financial freedom and I can transfer and receive money easily anywhere in the world and that's all I want to know, so I keep working with Bitcoin until proven otherwise.

[FlamingFingers]

Nakamoto, I wonder if that is an individual or an anonymous group. There was a history of a man I read some years back, that a man from China with the same idea though it flopped, went to jail and came back i want to believe he rrestrategized and kept a low profile for security reasons best know to him. This is Internet a lot of weird stuff will be published to people, I don't believe this though, I love the fact that everyone is keen and keep guessing who Satoshi is, the anonymous of Satoshi made bitcoin what it is today. Thank you Satoshi  

[blatchcorn]

Forget about your far-fetched theory, just focus on Bitcoin as it is. Whether Bitcoin was created by the Fed or the CIA, whether Satoshi Nakamoto was just a myth, Bitcoin could be independently appreciated for what it is. And it is what it is, a truly decentralized, trustless, immutable currency. So embracing Bitcoin should not be emanating from bizarre theories. Rather, it is through an objective scrutiny of its features.

There were so many theories about who created bitcoin, one such claim is from craig wright (he is nothing but faketoshi). Nonetheless I do agree that as a mode of payment bitcoin has provided so much relief to this world that fiat never provided.
As a freelancer now I get my money instantly and without any cuts. The centralized platforms like fiverr deducts 20% from each earning.

[ariinv]

As many of you mentioned here, the price under 30K for BTC is less than the cost price for those mining with 3cents electricity, do you still believe behind the scenes they dont want to burn petro-dollars?

[ariinv]

The bearish key reversal patterns led to the selling that has taken the cryptos with the leading market caps lower since last November. Last week, Bitcoin fell to a new low in 2022 and the lowest price since December 2020 when it reached $25,919.52 per coin. If they dont want to burn petro dollars then what they want to do? selling BTC under mining cost!?

[Asiska02]

Satoshi Nakamoto or not Satoshi Nakamoto is the founder of bitcoin it doesn’t matter anymore. The decentralized system created is enough to praise the person. And I also feel the person been anonymous is the best thing to have ever happened in cryptocurrency. If he was not anonymous, who knows what would have happened to him.
In his last message sent he said “the future of bitcoin is in safe hands” and so it is till date and am sure it’s will Ben forever.
Thanks to this anonymous cryptocurrency inventor🙏🏽

[NeuroticFish]

anxiously waiting to know your Idea about that.

The idea is clear: you should read much more and you should gather facts and only facts.

This huge mix you made, comprised by some possible facts, some conspiracy theories, some fiction and drama, both caused by insufficient knowledge .. doesn't help anybody unless you want to write a book.
My idea about all this is that you should start asking short question about this or that instead of guessing/imagining. It should help you greatly.

[ariinv]

anxiously waiting to know your Idea about that.

The idea is clear: you should read much more and you should gather facts and only facts.

This huge mix you made, comprised by some possible facts, some conspiracy theories, some fiction and drama, both caused by insufficient knowledge .. doesn't help anybody unless you want to write a book.
My idea about all this is that you should start asking short question about this or that instead of guessing/imagining. It should help you greatly.

thank you for your comment but Could you please kindly let me know where my lack of knowledge is? I have posted this subject to get more info , but you just criticised and did not add any knowledge to this post. I have studied many books about the monetary system and seriously following all news and papers in this regard. You are right I am writing a book with same subject too , Any of above statements you choose I will give you the reference! Please kindly add something to the post at least your own Idea!