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May 09, 2022, 01:20:08 PM
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But , when i access a new gambling website , i just feel :”boring!”
Everything is same , no creatives !no pvp competition, like the mummy!
I think you're in the wrong area if you're looking for something creative? or even pvp based even. Yes, there's games like poker and blackjack that lets you play against other players, but most of the time casinos revolve around trying to get lucky on an algorithm, pretty much just like how poker really is, just that there are multiple of you in one instance. If you were looking for pvp competitions I'd suggest moving on to fps, mobas, etc, basically any other type of game out there that does not rely on luck, but rather pure skill. And by skill, I mean mechanical skill, not the mind play games stuff that happens in poker tables.

 
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May 09, 2022, 01:31:21 PM
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But , when i access a new gambling website , i just feel :”boring!”
Everything is same , no creatives !no pvp competition, like the mummy!
I think you're in the wrong area if you're looking for something creative? or even pvp based even. Yes, there's games like poker and blackjack that lets you play against other players, but most of the time casinos revolve around trying to get lucky on an algorithm, pretty much just like how poker really is, just that there are multiple of you in one instance. If you were looking for pvp competitions I'd suggest moving on to fps, mobas, etc, basically any other type of game out there that does not rely on luck, but rather pure skill. And by skill, I mean mechanical skill, not the mind play games stuff that happens in poker tables.
I just want to discuss these ideas with you, Didn't mean to offend!
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May 10, 2022, 01:29:22 AM
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1: we make the house edge 0% or just 0.1%?



According to me, No casino's owner will do this.
It's the general policy of all the gambling site to charge a certain percentage and in my life I have never witnessed such a site who take 0% house edge.
You forgot the term "The house always wins"? This is due to the house edge charged by the gambling site owners for which they were able to make good profits.
And yes the games aren't controlled  by the gambling site owner, so it would be really difficult for them to create a complex code to host games in private rooms.
I would really appreciate if all the gambling sites reduce their house edge to something similar to 0.5%, this will encourage more gamblers to place more bets.

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May 10, 2022, 03:24:04 AM
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It seems to me that the OP thinks he has thought of a cool idea but neither is it cool nor does he seem to have much idea of how a casino and HE works.

This seems to me to be the most important thing:

Two things: casino will go bust or casino will die due to lack of players. Why take a share of the winnings of the players if you already have some house-edge setup? Your casino operators are not the government to tax players of their gains lol. They shouldn't be collecting a share of the players' wins just to make some profit. A very bad business model I should say. The casino will go bust very easily and the players will not be attracted to play at all.

I too see that his idea of changing the HE by taking money from the player out of his profits would not work. And he doesn't talk about costs of operating a casino.

1: we make the house edge 0% or just 0.1%?
Could we change the house edge or not? In my experience  i think its gone be ok!

I don't know what experience you will have, I think you are talking about ideas, not experience. If you have to build a new casino it has costs, and even if you have already built it, it has maintenance and advertising costs to attract people to it. Also to make the players that go there come back has costs in terms of promotions and so on. When you think about the HE or what you want to take out of the profits, think that with a low percentage you will only cover the costs or not even that.

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May 10, 2022, 04:30:44 AM
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It seems to me that the OP thinks he has thought of a cool idea but neither is it cool nor does he seem to have much idea of how a casino and HE works.

This seems to me to be the most important thing:

Two things: casino will go bust or casino will die due to lack of players. Why take a share of the winnings of the players if you already have some house-edge setup? Your casino operators are not the government to tax players of their gains lol. They shouldn't be collecting a share of the players' wins just to make some profit. A very bad business model I should say. The casino will go bust very easily and the players will not be attracted to play at all.

I too see that his idea of changing the HE by taking money from the player out of his profits would not work. And he doesn't talk about costs of operating a casino.

1: we make the house edge 0% or just 0.1%?
Could we change the house edge or not? In my experience  i think its gone be ok!

I don't know what experience you will have, I think you are talking about ideas, not experience. If you have to build a new casino it has costs, and even if you have already built it, it has maintenance and advertising costs to attract people to it. Also to make the players that go there come back has costs in terms of promotions and so on. When you think about the HE or what you want to take out of the profits, think that with a low percentage you will only cover the costs or not even that.


In my plan , this white label casino don’t need to attract people, its the club’s owner  bussiness
0house-edge is step 1, pvp crypto games is step2 , think about it please , we could play crash 1v1 just like poker heads-up, its real fair game !
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May 10, 2022, 04:50:41 AM
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It seems to me that the OP thinks he has thought of a cool idea but neither is it cool nor does he seem to have much idea of how a casino and HE works.

This seems to me to be the most important thing:

Two things: casino will go bust or casino will die due to lack of players. Why take a share of the winnings of the players if you already have some house-edge setup? Your casino operators are not the government to tax players of their gains lol. They shouldn't be collecting a share of the players' wins just to make some profit. A very bad business model I should say. The casino will go bust very easily and the players will not be attracted to play at all.

I too see that his idea of changing the HE by taking money from the player out of his profits would not work. And he doesn't talk about costs of operating a casino.

1: we make the house edge 0% or just 0.1%?
Could we change the house edge or not? In my experience  i think its gone be ok!

I don't know what experience you will have, I think you are talking about ideas, not experience. If you have to build a new casino it has costs, and even if you have already built it, it has maintenance and advertising costs to attract people to it. Also to make the players that go there come back has costs in terms of promotions and so on. When you think about the HE or what you want to take out of the profits, think that with a low percentage you will only cover the costs or not even that.

When i am a poker player and learn about it everyday , i find this game real meaning is that we can’t discuss the process by result ! You need to build your poker knowledge then push it down and forget it , setup new strategy for different people!
In this case, to everybody, casino is our enemy,but the game is casino is good, fair , interesting !
If we could to turn it into pvp game, I don’t know, will people like it more?
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May 10, 2022, 05:45:27 AM
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First , you can control the game time!
you could choose to open a new game anytime,and control the game time like 30mins or 1hour, why do that? you could take the winner profits 1~5% as fee
its like, i join your game room ,play the crash,the game is 0 edge to me but just  in 30mins or 1hour,i don’t know i will win  or not , if i win , maybe 100 usd, i will pay u 1~5 usd as fee , i think its ok , If i lose 100usd,i think the game is fair to me , i just lose to the 0 edge game, that ok right?

Seems like a dumb idea to me.
What if the users create multiple accounts by using VPNs or residential proxies,so that they could bypass this rule?Spending more resources to implement this "time limit" rule and trying to stop the players from bypassing it and exploiting the crypto casino would make the entire business model unprofitable.
Crash games simply work,I'm not a big fan of crash games,but they work.If something works,why bother changing it?Such changes would make the crash games less desirable by the gamblers and the crypto casinos would lose money.

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May 10, 2022, 08:32:24 AM
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In this case, to everybody, casino is our enemy,but the game is casino is good, fair , interesting !
If we could to turn it into pvp game, I don’t know, will people like it more?

People frequently ask for more PvP games, and we've had similar questions before... There are numerous topics on the subject. I suggest you search around on the forum if you are interested.

But, there's a reason why PvP skill games are not as popular as slots (and other games of chance) in online casinos. There has to be a lot of players online for a PVP games to fill the rooms, there is a problem with betting amounts matchmaking, so a special algorithm must be implemented, there has to be a way to deal with fake accounts and bots... And the list goes on. That's why you won't find many PvP gambling platforms online, and PvP games are a minority, as they can't keep players' interest for long.

Therefore, maybe adding PvP is a good idea for a casino once they have lots of players, but I don't think it's the best way to get started. For example, Duelbits casino began as a simple PvP gaming site, but has since evolved into a full-fledged crypto casino that offers live games, slots, blackjack, and a host of other casino games. They still offer a PvP gambling experience, however. You should try Dice Duels, which is basically a dice game, but you are competing with other players, and the winner is the player with the highest roll.

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May 10, 2022, 09:29:09 AM
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In this case, to everybody, casino is our enemy,but the game is casino is good, fair , interesting !
If we could to turn it into pvp game, I don’t know, will people like it more?

People frequently ask for more PvP games, and we've had similar questions before... There are numerous topics on the subject. I suggest you search around on the forum if you are interested.

But, there's a reason why PvP skill games are not as popular as slots (and other games of chance) in online casinos. There has to be a lot of players online for a PVP games to fill the rooms, there is a problem with betting amounts matchmaking, so a special algorithm must be implemented, there has to be a way to deal with fake accounts and bots... And the list goes on. That's why you won't find many PvP gambling platforms online, and PvP games are a minority, as they can't keep players' interest for long.

Therefore, maybe adding PvP is a good idea for a casino once they have lots of players, but I don't think it's the best way to get started. For example, Duelbits casino began as a simple PvP gaming site, but has since evolved into a full-fledged crypto casino that offers live games, slots, blackjack, and a host of other casino games. They still offer a PvP gambling experience, however. You should try Dice Duels, which is basically a dice game, but you are competing with other players, and the winner is the player with the highest roll.

thanks for your advice!
PvP game has a lot of questions , just like u said , AI robots ,cheating ,so , i think 1v1 is the first step!
I really dislike people that they always think the result right now is the best choice!
I like to ask for some good answers . It’s the best way to figure out something.
So right now, we have know that , pvp is not good enough for casino to make money ,also   Take winner’s  profits 1~5% in limit time as fee is not good for casino owner  too, change a gambling website  into a pure white label ,not provide real money service ,its all stupid minds. But as a player, everybody knows its better for them that if these all  be ture!
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May 10, 2022, 09:41:48 AM
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I like to ask for some good answers . It’s the best way to figure out something.

Sure, you can ask around, but, I think the best way to figure something out is to figure it out yourself. Just wrap your head around the problem for a day, a week, a month and THEN, if you still don't have an answer, ask around for help.

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May 19, 2022, 02:21:55 AM
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In this case, to everybody, casino is our enemy,but the game is casino is good, fair , interesting !
If we could to turn it into pvp game, I don’t know, will people like it more?

People frequently ask for more PvP games, and we've had similar questions before... There are numerous topics on the subject. I suggest you search around on the forum if you are interested.

But, there's a reason why PvP skill games are not as popular as slots (and other games of chance) in online casinos. There has to be a lot of players online for a PVP games to fill the rooms, there is a problem with betting amounts matchmaking, so a special algorithm must be implemented, there has to be a way to deal with fake accounts and bots... And the list goes on. That's why you won't find many PvP gambling platforms online, and PvP games are a minority, as they can't keep players' interest for long.

Therefore, maybe adding PvP is a good idea for a casino once they have lots of players, but I don't think it's the best way to get started. For example, Duelbits casino began as a simple PvP gaming site, but has since evolved into a full-fledged crypto casino that offers live games, slots, blackjack, and a host of other casino games. They still offer a PvP gambling experience, however. You should try Dice Duels, which is basically a dice game, but you are competing with other players, and the winner is the player with the highest roll.

I very much agree with what the PVP option is and if you are right about Duelbits, therefore if they consider having PVP for their games I think it will make it a greater attraction, particularly when there are PVP games the first thing I think is that I have more chance to win than to play against the house, then if the problem lies in the traffic and that there are more participants for the PVP, you could think of doing more publicity on social networks, and thus little by little you can reach all those players who They are looking for opportunities with PVP games and more in casinos, be it poker or any game.

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I like to ask for some good answers . It’s the best way to figure out something.

Sure, you can ask around, but, I think the best way to figure something out is to figure it out yourself. Just wrap your head around the problem for a day, a week, a month and THEN, if you still don't have an answer, ask around for help.

Do you really believe that there would be someone will really be helping out in regards to this new idea kind of question? No one for sure yet they do know that on this industry they would really be tending

to be the first thats why its really hard to believe on that there would be someone will really be telling you with some new ideas.You wont really be having any choice but to think up on your own

and dont rely nor depend if they would be answering out on the help that you are seeking considering that competition is really high.

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May 19, 2022, 04:01:24 PM
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1:We all know it’s house edge :1%
2:This game you access any gambling website , its always auto run there .

How to change it ? Or could we change it different?

1: we make the house edge 0% or just 0.1%?
Could we change the house edge or not? In my experience  i think its gone be ok!

2:How to make money as the casino owner?
First , you can control the game time!
you could choose to open a new game anytime,and control the game time like 30mins or 1hour, why do that? you could take the winner profits 1~5% as fee
its like, i join your game room ,play the crash,the game is 0 edge to me but just  in 30mins or 1hour,i don’t know i will win  or not , if i win , maybe 100 usd, i will pay u 1~5 usd as fee , i think its ok , If i lose 100usd,i think the game is fair to me , i just lose to the 0 edge game, that ok right?

3: if as a player , you think its not fair about the hash , you could choose to different seeds game room

I just want know the  calculation of these new ways ,good or not?

thanks everyone‘s answers!




Crash has more algorithms and mathematics involved in it than you can possibly imagine and no one will change that.

Also the new ideas presented favor the gamblers and less favorable for the gambling site so they won't be implemented. By lower the house edge and introduction PVP for crash games is not feasible for the gambling casino , so i don't see any reason why they will implement these proposed changes and put a dent on their earnings.

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