WE NEED A HALL OF FAME?

[Cling18]

That sounds like an interesting idea but I don't think big-time players would disclose or even share details about their winnings publicly. One of the common reasons why gamblers have chosen crypto gambling is the anonymity that it provides so this idea though exciting won't protect their privacy either.

[Boristhecat]

What is the practical purpose of this? I can't understand what this would be useful for other than to amuse someone's vanity. In the gambling section, people write/read in certain topics and quickly understand whose analysis is interesting (after all, you can always look at the history of messages). I don't think this hall of fame will be really useful to anyone.

Well, why? Anyone who wants to amuse his ego can himself create a thread about his achievements and share there his story of winnings.

Many of us give some advice on the forum and I would be interested to know which of the forum users has a really advanced skills in a particular game of chance and such a theme would contribute to this.

Yes, I enjoy reading threads where people post their practical attempts to beat the bookmaker/casino, but unfortunately there are very few of them, for example, from long threads, I only see the thread from buwaytress. Others often appear and quickly disappear as the one who starts them quickly and loses his deposit.

[acroman08]

just curious how will the ranking will be picked? are you gonna put a poll for people to vote on who will be the top 3 or are you just gonna put the ranking base on the money they won? anyway, I think the idea is fine. it would be interesting to see who'll be the winner or how much they won on major events, big poker tournaments, prediction pools, etc...

[zidanw]

Definitely, I think we would benefit as a community from having some kind of recognition for amazing results and wins. That would also be a way to make the gambling community more active and provide a bit of extra fun. But the question has to be asked: would this kind of recognition egg on bad habits for the people who are currently already suffering from gambling addiction?

We should definitely weigh the pros and cons before making a decision.

I wound second on that. This may also spark a obsession in receiving recognition, in competition with the others, so it could possibly lead to addiction as well. The concept is not bad and negative it its essence, but the foregoing implications to the players’ privacy, ego, and etc., could be somehow show negativity.

[Maus0728]

just curious how will the ranking will be picked? are you gonna put a poll for people to vote on who will be the top 3 or are you just gonna put the ranking base on the money they won? anyway, I think the idea is fine. it would be interesting to see who'll be the winner or how much they won on major events, big poker tournaments, prediction pools, etc...

I think he's just pertaining to who has the most bets and predictions wins. The idea is indeed fine, but the process and how to make this one successful is tiring, unless it is a contest which the reports and proofs are by initiative of the contestant and there would be a prize pool as well. I wouldn't just do such initiative just for the "HALL OF FAME" title. What if I had thousands of winning bets and predictions?

[coolcoinz]

Well make it one table yeah do that, good idea to know that. We can see smart people in making predictions too so that their speech can be trusted to be followed, there are many interesting things on the board games and rounds, some people often win in a competition. You can check, if I'm not mistaken, also betja always makes a soccer prediction competition every week and the names of the participants are open for everyone to know. I agree with your idea.

Do you really feel that winning a competition makes someone more trusted or worth listening to? If we believe in the concept of luck then a single win can be exactly that. Trusting other people and betting like they do just because you saw them win can make you lose even more than if you were to bet alone and you'll feel even worse for trusting them.

A hall of fame isn't a bad idea especially for casinos because it will show where people are winning the most, but it shouldn't serve as a guide for new people and make them fall victim of people who sell predictions.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

What do you think?

The main challenge is to keep the information updated all the time. It's not really possible in a forum topic. Instead this will be a good idea to have it in a website. Which will be designed specifically for the purpose you are proposing. The bright side of it, once the site will start receiving enough traffic, you can sell ad space. Make some money of the work you will do of course.

[buwaytress]

Yes, I enjoy reading threads where people post their practical attempts to beat the bookmaker/casino, but unfortunately there are very few of them, for example, from long threads, I only see the thread from buwaytress. Others often appear and quickly disappear as the one who starts them quickly and loses his deposit.

Thanks for the shout out! I know I have been really slowing down on that thread too, a little bit of life situation with busy days and a little bit of betting situation where I'm not nowadays as aware of teams and situations. Admittedly most of my bets disregard the finer details of lineup and sentiment and form is always easier to feel than to calculate anyway.

But yeah, think several years ago it was more common to find tipster threads, they all seem to have gone.

[dothebeats]

Just like a collection or repository of winners on huge events on different gambling platforms? It can be done and should be self-moderated. Obviously a good idea and may even encourage platform operators to hold tournaments and major events regularly for free advertisement as well. Definitely worth doing this, though the one who should manage the thread should be the on who is great on keeping the thread less of a clutter than it should be.

[davis196]

Seems like a pointless idea to me.If the idea was really good,it would have been already implemented in the forum a long time ago.
There's no incentive for the gamblers to participate in such "wall of fame".Every gambler is free to brag about his winnings in his own social media profiles,or he could just create a forum thread here.
There's no incentive for the crypto casinos to participate in this wall of fame forum thread as well(maybe except advertising their brands).
I don't think that many people would be interested in visiting this wall of fame forum thread on a daily basis.This kinda makes the whole idea pointless.
Another thing is the verification of winning bets.How are they going to be verified?Screenshots can be faked.

[Crypto Library]

I think this was a nice idea. But I doubt if it could be at all. This work will be difficult to complete.  In order to do this, big people have to agree. Not everyone can do it.  Because how do you know who has won? But Anyway, I like the idea.

[Finestream]

I made this post because i think we, the community of gambling of bitcointalk need a kind of Hall of Fame.

What im saying?. Some like a thread that show all the winner of major events like, big Poker tournaments, Predictions pools.


You can see all the winners of the tournaments or best positioning in one post. And also this can work like a "trust" tabble to who is speaking in any thread, like ohhh see he is the winner of X competition.

Example:

Top 3 of BETNOMI POKER SERIES.
Top 3 of Sportsbet Predictions POOL


What do you think?

I am afraid that in the world of cryptocurrencies, this idea may fail. Players on this forum still value anonymity and are very not happy to share information about their winnings. I think that the winners of big tournaments even more will not want to boast about it publicly.

If they stick on anonymity, then its hard to create a hall of fame if the winner itself does not allow people to know his real identity. Although what you suggest OP may bring benefit to the audience, but on the winner's side, it will be against the anonymity feature of crypto. I understand that some winners would appreciate being acknowledged, but here in crypto the impact will be a lot different.

[iv4n]

That sounds like an interesting idea but I don't think big-time players would disclose or even share details about their winnings publicly. One of the common reasons why gamblers have chosen crypto gambling is the anonymity that it provides so this idea though exciting won't protect their privacy either.

People can stay anonymous, I guess the hall of fame will include just nicknames and wins from people who are willing to share their winnings! We all do that in different telegram groups, from recently on the BTCGosu site, here... and really on many other places! Who is willing to participate will share, the ones who don't like this idea will simply stay out of it!

If they stick on anonymity, then its hard to create a hall of fame if the winner itself does not allow people to know his real identity. Although what you suggest OP may bring benefit to the audience, but on the winner's side, it will be against the anonymity feature of crypto. I understand that some winners would appreciate being acknowledged, but here in crypto the impact will be a lot different.

Why do we even talk about "real identity"!? It's about users/nick names! It's not like we will need a KYC to be in the hall of fame!

[KTChampions]

Seems like a pointless idea to me.If the idea was really good,it would have been already implemented in the forum a long time ago.
There's no incentive for the gamblers to participate in such "wall of fame".Every gambler is free to brag about his winnings in his own social media profiles,or he could just create a forum thread here.
There's no incentive for the crypto casinos to participate in this wall of fame forum thread as well(maybe except advertising their brands).
I don't think that many people would be interested in visiting this wall of fame forum thread on a daily basis.This kinda makes the whole idea pointless.
Another thing is the verification of winning bets.How are they going to be verified?Screenshots can be faked.

To some extent, casinos already hold such events that encourage gamblers to brag about their winnings - there are many regular contests (here on the forum in the games and rounds section) where you need to confirm your won bet with the highest odds and get a bonus.
But in general, I agree that there is nothing special about this idea - everyone knows that big wins exist, this does not surprise anyone and is unlikely to attract anyone to regularly view such a thread.

[bitbollo]

Seems like a pointless idea to me.If the idea was really good,it would have been already implemented in the forum a long time ago.
There's no incentive for the gamblers to participate in such "wall of fame".Every gambler is free to brag about his winnings in his own social media profiles,or he could just create a forum thread here.
There's no incentive for the crypto casinos to participate in this wall of fame forum thread as well(maybe except advertising their brands).
I don't think that many people would be interested in visiting this wall of fame forum thread on a daily basis.This kinda makes the whole idea pointless.
Another thing is the verification of winning bets.How are they going to be verified?Screenshots can be faked.

To some extent, casinos already hold such events that encourage gamblers to brag about their winnings - there are many regular contests (here on the forum in the games and rounds section) where you need to confirm your won bet with the highest odds and get a bonus.
But in general, I agree that there is nothing special about this idea - everyone knows that big wins exist, this does not surprise anyone and is unlikely to attract anyone to regularly view such a thread.

I believe that the real novelty or interesting aspect about an hall of fame is not so much related to the big win (sooner or later the stroke of luck happens to everyone) but rather relative to constancy!
it is not difficult to achieve success, the difficult thing is to be able to maintain a certain position over time!
E.G if you see a tipster able to achieve a profit every month/year for sure he is above the median of common players and maybe it could be highlighted from the crowd of other tipsters (just my 2 cents)

[Maestro75]

Instead, will it not be better to have a Hall of Shame for projects in this section which scammed its consumers or those which became totally useless. That will help warn others so they do not fall prey. It can also be extended too to bounty managers who do not deliver or ensure that hunters get paid. Any of this two options if done will be a huge benefit to members here more than spamming with names of those who won tournaments.

[KTChampions]

To some extent, casinos already hold such events that encourage gamblers to brag about their winnings - there are many regular contests (here on the forum in the games and rounds section) where you need to confirm your won bet with the highest odds and get a bonus.
But in general, I agree that there is nothing special about this idea - everyone knows that big wins exist, this does not surprise anyone and is unlikely to attract anyone to regularly view such a thread.

I believe that the real novelty or interesting aspect about an hall of fame is not so much related to the big win (sooner or later the stroke of luck happens to everyone) but rather relative to constancy!
it is not difficult to achieve success, the difficult thing is to be able to maintain a certain position over time!
E.G if you see a tipster able to achieve a profit every month/year for sure he is above the median of common players and maybe it could be highlighted from the crowd of other tipsters (just my 2 cents)

I agree with you - regular successes are much more interesting than random one-time big wins. And studying those who are successful in this way is very interesting. But I must note that the regularity of success does not guarantee that this is a pattern and not luck. Roughly speaking, if a billion people constantly flip a coin and guess the result, then there will be someone who guesses, for example, 75% of the time. But this will not say that he is an expert, since his success will only be a fluctuation resulting from a huge number of attempts.

[Mauser]

Having a hall of fame here on the forum sounds like a funny idea. There are a lot of prediction threads, raffles for people to bet on tournament winners and other betting games. On top of that we have all the big bookmakers and casinos which show their top monthly winners. The question is if the hall of fame be for the people who make he biggest profits with sports betting, or for people who are picking the right team most of the times? If we just go for the highest winnings than this will likely include the whales who have a large bankroll to bet and gamble. For the average Joe it will be harder to get into the hall of fame. That's why it would also be nice to have category which shows gambles who picked the right teams most of the times. There are probably people who bet small amounts but manage to be right 80-90% of the time. It's also very impressive result even if their overall winnings is lower.

[bitbollo]

To some extent, casinos already hold such events that encourage gamblers to brag about their winnings - there are many regular contests (here on the forum in the games and rounds section) where you need to confirm your won bet with the highest odds and get a bonus.
But in general, I agree that there is nothing special about this idea - everyone knows that big wins exist, this does not surprise anyone and is unlikely to attract anyone to regularly view such a thread.

I believe that the real novelty or interesting aspect about an hall of fame is not so much related to the big win (sooner or later the stroke of luck happens to everyone) but rather relative to constancy!
it is not difficult to achieve success, the difficult thing is to be able to maintain a certain position over time!
E.G if you see a tipster able to achieve a profit every month/year for sure he is above the median of common players and maybe it could be highlighted from the crowd of other tipsters (just my 2 cents)

I agree with you - regular successes are much more interesting than random one-time big wins. And studying those who are successful in this way is very interesting. But I must note that the regularity of success does not guarantee that this is a pattern and not luck. Roughly speaking, if a billion people constantly flip a coin and guess the result, then there will be someone who guesses, for example, 75% of the time. But this will not say that he is an expert, since his success will only be a fluctuation resulting from a huge number of attempts.

I think that you have to consider games where skill must be taken into account.
excluding "flip a coin" or any game related "lucky" .... but take sports betting as an example ... or
texas holdem poker.
you are more or less sure that an "expert" player is better than a novice!
in the past there was the "direct bet" hall of fame. if you see people there (top tipsters), no one was "a coincidence" and in each competition they was able to get some prizes...

[KTChampions]

I agree with you - regular successes are much more interesting than random one-time big wins. And studying those who are successful in this way is very interesting. But I must note that the regularity of success does not guarantee that this is a pattern and not luck. Roughly speaking, if a billion people constantly flip a coin and guess the result, then there will be someone who guesses, for example, 75% of the time. But this will not say that he is an expert, since his success will only be a fluctuation resulting from a huge number of attempts.

I think that you have to consider games where skill must be taken into account.
excluding "flip a coin" or any game related "lucky" .... but take sports betting as an example ... or
texas holdem poker.
you are more or less sure that an "expert" player is better than a novice!
in the past there was the "direct bet" hall of fame. if you see people there (top tipsters), no one was "a coincidence" and in each competition they was able to get some prizes...

You're right. But this certainty is very far from 100%, since there is always a factor of chance. By the way, let's take such an example - poker and, for example, Starcraft (I will talk about the first part because I am not aware of the gameplay in the second). Bookmakers have always been easy to accept bets on StarCraft games and have never had a problem placing quotes. But this seems to be strange because if a low-level player goes all-in or a blind counter-build, then he defeats a stronger player. But on average, the stronger player always wins. In poker, I don't remember bookmakers taking bets on a champion against a rookie in tournaments - they were quoted pretty much the same. Strange, isn't it? It turns out that the bookmakers believed that the success of a poker player is completely random.