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[Despairo]

we really think that there is quite a bit of money circulating there which might come from forum users believing that they will get good privacy without involving banks to gamble.

While using crypto is looks have good privacy, but the fact isn't.
Most of big casinos in this forum had mandatory KYC and most people doesn't really care with their privacy e.g. using centralized exchanges. They're directly send their coins from casino to exchange, if they ever submit KYC either casino or exchange, the banks already know where's the funds came from. You wouldn't get a good privacy if you used centralized coins, KYC casino and centralized exchanges.

The promotion of a campaign about casino or gambling is also considered to be one of the most serious as compared to an altcoin campaign. The large cash circulation in the casino has been able to benefit the owners which in the end they can run the campaign longer than some altcoin campaigns with bitcoin payouts.

However @OP isn't discussing about bounty campaign as everyone already know bounty mostly scam and become worthless.

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While I didn't explicitly mention to you the privacy at stake with KYC among those many casinos, then I think people already know that. People already know about KYC being a special requirement at certain casinos, but some casinos don't seem to need it and can be used if you care about privacy.

However @OP isn't discussing about bounty campaign as everyone already know bounty mostly scam and become worthless.

You certainly understand what Ratimov means which I quote below for you, although the OP didn't mention it clearly but why didn't we think of comparing it to other campaigns.

Why is gambling advertising delayed more often than others on this forum?

unlike advertisements for mixers, exchanges, tokens, etc.

[Igebotz]

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the majority of the users here are gamblers, with only a few exceptions.

I tend to disagree, even we've seen gambling boards is really crowd and people were discussing about sports, slots, poker, casino, etc. But actually most of users there aren't really a gamblers, but their sole purpose is to fill the campaign requirement to post in gambling boards. If the campaign didn't ask they need to post minimum of 5-10 to gambling boards, I believe most users will move to Altcoin discussions since it's more easier than gambling boards.

The majority of Sportbets.io, stake.com, Duebits, and Roobets sig participants are gamblers who actively use their services, and you can easily tell who is writing to fulfill their weekly post counts from who are actually core gamblers from their comments.

I don't think Bestchange and Chipmixers have that many users from here using their services; I believe they make their money from sources outside the forum..
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If Bestchange is not making profit, the campaign would have ended probably a long time ago. I like your post, you even mentioned that you have used Bestchange like ones, twice or more times before. If not for this forum, would you have used exchange aggregator called Bestchange? So many people would be like you and also introducing it to friends.

Yes, I learned about Bestchange through a forum signature campaign, and I've used the system in the past when I needed some PayPal funds, but I'm just saying that, unlike casino sites, the majority of their clients are not from their forums. I could be wrong, though.

Participants in the casino signature program spend more time on the casino sites, which is a significant advantage over other signature services.

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Participants in the casino signature program spend more time on the casino sites, which is a significant advantage over other signature services.

Even when they are not active gamblers, I think the some participant should also try the casino services they promote. It may not be like other services like exchanges, altcoins because actually their main user base is not on forums.

I also don't think that the main base of crypto casino users comes from forums ^{[I may be wrong]} but I'm sure there are some forum users who really like to gamble especially if they also like to do it with fiat. This is why crypto based gambling campaigns can last longer because I think there are really good benefits to the services of forum users and sharing some of the profits with the participants of the signature campaign even though it is still part of the promotion.

[famososMuertos]

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The forum itself is a very particular advertising niche.

In the case of CM, it maintains because it is the Coca-Cola of our niche, so it is already a matter of trust and permanent positioning, keeping the brand in the consumer's mind is essential.

There is a premise that says "it is not how much you invest, but where you advertise what makes a campaign effective" CM is in the place where "perhaps" it makes the best return on its investment, other type ad campaign would not be as effective as it is in the forum.

In the case of exchanges, I think it is an issue of recruitment, user traffic, let's say that unlike the previous product, exchanges have greater demand but users tend to make more constants/traffic over time. In the case of BC, it basically offers a third-party service, it is not really an exchange as such and perhaps that allows it to manage a constant and long-lasting advertising budget in the forum.

The sporadic campaigns: surely the others who have passed through here handle limited and diversified budget items in others areas where they can advertise their brand.

Casinos: the opposite happens, in my opinion in relation to exchanges (e.g.) the traffic of players is not constant, they come and go, let's say that frequent players exist, but the niche of the betting world is managed with their main active; the newbie or "fish". So the casinos that can pay a constant signature in the forum "fight" for those users and in that process they consolidate the brand in the thinking of crypto players.

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[FatFork]

BitcoinTalk.org probably has the largest gambling-related subboard in the world, with thousands of active members and thousands of posts every month. I know, it's a chicken-and-egg thing and some would argue that this is due to the signature campaigns, but I believe the gambling board existed and was active even before bitcoin campaigns became a thing. Nonetheless, the concept has been a huge success and the community has adopted many of the platforms, who bring a fair, fun and entertaining environment that bitcoin gambling can provide.

In my opinion, cryptocurrencies have brought some tremendous value to the online gambling industry. Not just because gambling has become a more mainstream thing, but also because online gambling is a much cheaper form of gambling business than offline, land-based casinos. And not only is it cheaper, but the people can gamble anytime and anywhere. In addition, Bitcoin allows you to spend the money at many more places than it would be possible for people to do so in real world. To some degree, I believe this has changed the landscape of the online gambling industry and even affected some of the physical casinos. Many physical casinos are also trying to take advantage of this trend.

[Rikafip]

The majority of Sportbets.io, stake.com, Duebits, and Roobets sig participants are gamblers who actively use their services, and you can easily tell who is writing to fulfill their weekly post counts from who are actually core gamblers from their comments.

While I do think that Sportbets.io sig participants are genuine gambling board posters, I seriously doubt that majority of members in other campaigns are actively using their services. Not just that, I think that many don't even watch the sports that they are talking about and its not that hard to notice that if you know the subject well. The thing is, only the best paid campaigns can attract natural posters and that's why others have to set the gambling board post quota. If there is an abundance of gamblers here that wouldn't be the case. As an example of what I am talking about, you can take a look at Games and rounds child board and the lack of interest in competitions where participants actually have to bet/gamble using their own money.

Then again, gambling signature campaigns obviously work one way or another because companies wouldn't waste their money for years.

[Igebotz]

The majority of Sportbets.io, stake.com, Duebits, and Roobets sig participants are gamblers who actively use their services, and you can easily tell who is writing to fulfill their weekly post counts from who are actually core gamblers from their comments.

The thing is, only the best paid campaigns can attract natural posters and that's why others have to set the gambling board post quota. If there is an abundance of gamblers here that wouldn't be the case. As an example of what I am talking about, you can take a look at Games and rounds child board and the lack of interest in competitions where participants actually have to bet/gamble using their own money.

Then again, gambling signature campaigns obviously work one way or another because companies wouldn't waste their money for years.

I have to disagree with you on the bolded part of your last sentence, using myself as an example; I'm an active gambler who rarely participates in Games and Round sub-baord free competitions; not everyone wants to smear his posts history with some shite games and round worthless predictions contests, and I believe that's one of the reasons most users don't frequent that board except spammers looking for cheap cents.

[Pmalek]

Look at it in this way:
You need money to finance a signature campaigns. Who is more likely to be willing to pay hundreds and thousands of dollars weekly? A business like a casino that generates a lot of profit every hour of the day, or a developer who has just created a new free service that doesn't earn him any income and he has to spend his own money to pay promoters? We all know the answer.

Even ChipMixer and BestChange earn money. CM through donations and the users who use their services and BestChange through fees.   

[Rikafip]

I have to disagree with you on the bolded part of your last sentence, using myself as an example; I'm an active gambler who rarely participates in Games and Round sub-baord free competitions; not everyone wants to smear his posts history with some shite games and round worthless predictions contests, and I believe that's one of the reasons most users don't frequent that board except spammers looking for cheap cents.

So you think that those who are active in Games and round contests and competitions are somehow smearing their post history? That's a weird statement, to say the least. I understand someone simply not wanting to participate in those things, but that reason not really.

[Igebotz]

I have to disagree with you on the bolded part of your last sentence, using myself as an example; I'm an active gambler who rarely participates in Games and Round sub-baord free competitions; not everyone wants to smear his posts history with some shite games and round worthless predictions contests, and I believe that's one of the reasons most users don't frequent that board except spammers looking for cheap cents.

So you think that those who are active in Games and round contests and competitions are somehow smearing their post history? That's a weird statement, to say the least. I understand someone simply not wanting to participate in those things, but that reason not really.

I was active on the sub-board a sometimes ago, but I discovered that I lost more than I gained, so I quit wasting my time. However, whether or not that sub-board is active proves nothing. Imo

[Welsh]

Not sure, I thought there's been quite a lot of gambling related signature campaigns over the years, but there's been others mixed in too. Although, I guess you could say there should be more when compared to other services, because signature campaigns definitely work, and who has a lot of disposable income? Probably gambling sites. I've been contacted quite a few times by users asking about my currently worn signature. Actually quite frequent too I find. So, it definitely works even if it's not direct clicks through an referral link, it most certainly does stick in certain user minds. The only exceptions would be those that have added them to an ad block filter or disabled signatures, which I can't imagine many users do.

I don't believe it's about getting a good advertisement or anything; I believe it's about the user's area of interest, and to be honest, the majority of the users here are gamblers, with only a few exceptions. This is why gambling signatures last longer than any other campaign because they produce results and generate a lot of money.

One could argue that merely being invested in Bitcoin, regardless of your outlook or reason for being involved, is in fact gambling. Since, I assume most of us are counting on it going up in the long term at the very least. So, yeah we are all banking on either making a lot of money through Bitcoin or banking on Bitcoin replacing our current fiat system, both can be seen as a gamble even if not in the traditional sense.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I honestly have thought about this on several occasions, I can't say for sure it's true reason, but my guess is, it's because advertising in the service section is only for bitcoin paying companies, if companies were allowed to launch their campaign in the service section and pay their campaign participants in whatever coin they please, you will see that the service section will be flooded with different kinds of campaigns.
But because crypto companies that are just starting will prefer to pay their campaign participants in their own Altcoin, they can not list their campaign in the service section since this section is reserved for companies paying in bitcoin only, and we all know that gambling casinos make alot of bitcoin from customers, so paying their campaign participants in bitcoin isn't an issue for them.

[uchegod-21]

For 10 new campaigns - 9 from the world of gambling, casinos, bookmakers, etc. Other services come across very rarely, and if they do appear, they exist for a short period of time and then leave this forum.

First, OP is very right, you established a fact which I observed recently. Many things must have caused it but one major thing I believe is the reason is;
Gambling, casinos etc are making real time use of cryptocurrencies. When you visit any gambling site, you will discover they accept payments in more than 10 cryptocurrencies. This cannot be said of other companies who might not be so intimate with crypto.
Again, the promoters of the campaign are also patronising the business. Some gamblers use btc paid them in the campaign to re-invest in the casino site by betting. The circle is flowing and it will last the more.
Crypto meeting casino is a fortunate thing that happened to gambling.

[suzanne5223]

It's easy OP because it is a sign that we have a lot of gamblers on this forum more than you can ever imagine.
Before now some people consider this forum to be the marketplace for gambling site and the reason why we see more casino campaign is that other crypto gambling site owner understands their competitor is making good income through this forum campaign.

 

[nakamura12]

There are lots of gamblers in this forum either a big time or not. If there's not much gamblers in this forum then those gambling signature campaigns might stop. There are also people who come here asking people which best casino or sportsbooks are legit and have good reputation so many will recommend what is best casino or sportsbooks in Bitcointalk. Not really sure if this is the reason why but I do know that some promoters of the said gambling site invest on a casino.

[ultrloa]

It's because there are so many Casino popping up here if not everyday on monthly basis so Casino owners choose to use that campaign to make sure that their exposure still their and they will not be out shadowed by new casinos or other competitors.

While other's like exchange or other type of services is only few here so maybe they didn't tend to spend such huge amount of money to advertise because they have other medium or means to do their own marketing without spending lot of cash.

Also we can see that social media sites are also into cryptocurrencies nowadays and many of crypto business owners spend their money on advertising on those platforms since they can reach out on more bigger audiences.

[Pmalek]

But because crypto companies that are just starting will prefer to pay their campaign participants in their own Altcoin, they can not list their campaign in the service section since this section is reserved for companies paying in bitcoin only...

Have you ever considered the following: All these altcoins and shitcoins that are created are all being advertised as the best thing you will ever come across in your life. But then you have bounty campaigns and signature campaigns where they are giving away tons of it. If it was that good, and those tokens were so much better than crappy old Bitcoin, wouldn't you want to keep most of them for yourself and "trick" the gullible investors and campaign participants into accepting Bitcoin? Paying them in worthless coins, and gladly taking their Bitcoin shows the real intentions.   

[UmerIdrees]

Also it could be a self propagating loop.

Casino A advertises here.
Casino B advertises here.
Casino C advertises here.

All of a sudden casinos D and E see their business fall off a bit, they take a look and see others advertising here so they start their campaigns.

Someone decides to start casino F and sees all the advertising for A to E and figures they have to advertise here too.

-Dave

In the above example, it does not matter if Casino D and E follow the advertising being done by the casino A, B  and C. The main thing to note is that the casino are getting traffic and gamblers and therefore they are advertising here long term.
Bitcointalk has vast majority of gamblers and casino wants to advertise here to gain customers and earn money. The other big business is crowd funding but it is handled in terms of native tokens and hence projects need not spent bitcoins to promote their ICO projects.

[Mr.right85]

Out of sentiment, I think gambling sites are easier to operate more than others. Coupled with the fact that, gaming isn't such a vice as it was viewed in the 20th century and centuries before that. It has become a licensed and tasked field, providing lots and lots of revenue for the government of it's host nation and a lot of gamblers out there are always looking out for better services as per customer support, better odds, fairness, easy withdrawals, No KYC and better services as a whole. Hence, we tend to have a more of gambling sites on the forum, seizing the opportunities to better the gambling industry. Just a thought but, I think it goes too.