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February 09, 2021, 07:26:15 AM
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I am also Romanian, that's why I suggested you to start a topic in the Romanian board.

Although you don't know the exchanged they used, you could obtain other valuable information if you would share what I asked you above:

Besides all these, where did you find these guys? Are they forum users... LocalBitcoins users...? Can you share their usernames if so? I don't think you just bumped into them while walking on the street, therefore mentioning their origins may be useful.

What are their names? Phone numbers? At what bar did you go?

But, as far as I see from your answers, either you are not that interested in catching the thieves or you don't understand what I'm writing here.

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February 10, 2021, 08:15:02 AM
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Hi i allready told you in a reply if you look back .

I had to sell an Antminer s9 on olx (like ebay) and they called me to ask me if it is for sell and after that he asked me if i want to sell bitcoin becouse his bank account is bloked.
I chouse the bar . is at Universitate / Palaria lui George Mihaita.
I don't have acces to the guy name  , after the police finish the investigation i will have acces to the  file .
The police try to identify the other guy .

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Just analyzed your loss and as others said your funds are tracable to Binance. If Binance didn't support then you should follow other traces. I found a couple of traces to other exchanges. Below is one path to kraken.com which is most probably better in KYC and more supportive to police requests. I didn't follow your coins directly, I analysed what other addresses have the same owner and if they end up at an exchange. This increases the chances usually by far but cannot be done manually.

Your scammer is a kraken.com client, his deposit address is 3GaGnDtRcgYL1E7C2hJKXsFThj8RTua5ad. So ask the police to approach Kraken to get all information about their client (e.g. id, bank account, bitcoin withdrawal address(es), altcoin withdrawal address(es)). If one of the first two information is available then you can claim back your loss, if one of the last two then this is the starting point for a follow up analysis.

Why the Kraken client with deposit address 3GaGnDtRcgYL1E7C2hJKXsFThj8RTua5ad is most probably your scammer:
Bottom line it's likely that your scammer is depositing at Kraken under address 3GaGnDtRcgYL1E7C2hJKXsFThj8RTua5ad and Kraken is the next logical step to contact (by legal enforcement because for data privacy reasons they won't hand out their clients data to you)
 
It's likely but not 100% sure because in the intermediate steps there is the little chance that the scammer made a donation to someone else or paid someone with exactly the huge amount without a change. But in this case follow this bottom up. The kraken client should be in this case able to tell the police from whom (the scammer) he received the funds and why.

Good luck in claiming your bitcoin back!
In case you need a professional expert statement for the police or for your legal representative with detailed explanation of the evidences or if you need one of the other available paths to exchanges traced let me know.
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Hello. Update after 18 months. . Thank you very much for your help and advice. Binance cooperated with the Romanian authorities and identified the people behind the wallets. The money was confiscated and everything is fine. They were stored at Binance.
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The criminal investigation is still ongoing. I will give more details at the end of the criminal trial.
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June 08, 2022, 06:00:55 AM
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Hello. Update after 18 months. . Thank you very much for your help and advice.

OP, I am very happy to hear that the advice you received here actually helped you in your quest for obtaining your money back.

Binance cooperated with the Romanian authorities and identified the people behind the wallets. The money was confiscated and everything is fine. They were stored at Binance.

This is even more great news! However, this amazes me, in a way. And this is because I would never believe that our local Police is capable of such investigation or they would ever pay attention to such kind of a theft. Obtaining crypto funds back, after a theft, is something difficult allover the world. But it's even more difficult in countries where local authorities don't even understand what they're dealing with. And I was almost certain that our Police would not give a damn for your complaint.

Seeing though that they really involved in your case; seeing that they identified the thieves; seeing that they went even further, to collaborate with Binance send a subpoena to Binance, in order to seize the thieves' funds (funds which, in fact, belonged to you) -- all these made me to see our Police in a total different view. I am not surprised by the fact that Binance accepted to seize the funds after receiving the subpoena; I am amazed by the fact that our local Police managed to go that far.

Probably, what I'm saying here may surprise many readers, which may think "Why is Gazeta so surprised? For Police it was the natural thing to do.". Such questions are perfectly normal to pop in mind. But I know how our Police works; I know how, many times, the victim is seen as the attacker; I know how, many times, they do not care for even more harsh abuses; and I know (or, I thought I knew) that our local authorities (including Police) have no idea what Bitcoin is. This is why I am so impressed by what OP managed to reach so far, with the help of Police...

OP, whenever you can (and whenever the law will allow you to), please let us know about the further proceedings. Good luck!

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June 08, 2022, 06:45:04 AM
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These guys made several mistakes :

They used a centralized service ==> Binance in this scenario, so it might be possible for the authorities to subpoena Binance to acquire their details. (As you did) They also arranged to meet you in a public place (where there might be CCTV footage of them, if you act quickly in the place where you met or the surrounding area) ....and they left someone behind.

I will put a lot of pressure on the person that they left behind, because he will be key to the recovery of the money. (Get as much information as possible on him, you will eventually find his friends...even if you have to pay someone to get it for you)  Wink The criminal justice system has loopholes for criminals, so it can be used to their advantage.... so people like us has to use our own resources to find justice. (legal ways, like hiring a private investigator or offering a reward for information)  

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